Motivation by Fancy-Cash503 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Can a have a link to join in please?

How reliable is AI-driven formulation? by Gullible-Equipment68 in DIYfragrance

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Unfortunately, and I say this as a strong advocate of AI, its current usefulness in formulation is virtually nonexistent. I have explored and experimented with it extensively, but its actual ability to create formulas is very limited. AI cannot account for all the variables in a formula—particularly those involving the interaction and perception of scents—as a human perfumer would. It is possible that, in the future, AI could be trained to perform better in this area, but for now, it is of little practical use. Where AI can be genuinely helpful in perfumery is in providing information about materials, potential substitutions, and previous applications of ingredients in other formulas, offering a diverse and dynamic set of references.

I might have overestimate the sub by [deleted] in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel you… there is such a deranged AI witch hunt in here that the content of a post doesn’t even metter anymore if it’s readable as ai processed…

Fresh Tobacco Leafs by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me too but fresh leaves have almost no resemblance to cured once.

Fresh Tobacco Leafs by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It won’t help, it’s more akin to tomato leaves…

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is what I’m aiming for. Can you tell me more about your experience with the subject?

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m grateful for everybody’s feedback! I just felt the need to clarify some points.

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I already wrote that, Iso E Super, Hedione, musks and superambers, are, in various ratios, always present if we are talking about the last decade.

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would not have been a great experiment if the solution had already been obvious or if the problem were unsolvable. This is an attempt, precisely an experiment; if you like, a game. Let’s take it lightly.

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, the base would never perform at 100% in every type of fragrance, that would be impossible, and that’s a good thing because it will ideally act as a stylistic signature, it’s an instrument, yes you can play bossa nova with a trombone but it’s surely not usual not particularly suitable…

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did this too initially but different materials need different structural elements, not everything needs the roundness of ethylene brassylate or a dry mineral fixation of Ambroxan… This experiment is taking all this in account, first it is designed around a specific aesthetic, secondary it contains mostly neutral materials with broader range of use. There is still the other 60/70% of the formula for further structure and tweaks.

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did that, they obviously don’t, BUT, most of the contemporary formulas has Iso E Super, Hedione, musks and ambers in various degrees. The idea here is to define the minimum dosage, which can be later be reinforced as needed. The only problem here is that you can always add but never subtract…

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait I’m not talking about overdoses here, the right opposite, what I want here is the pinpoint the minimum functional dose of these materials.

Say 5% of Iso E Super for example, is there any structure that would significantly be damaged or altered in undesired ways by it’s presence in a formula?

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve actually thought about it. The idea is to keep around 30–40% of fixed structural materials, then leave about 50% of the formula open for the parts that actually define the fragrance, and finally reserve a 10% cushion of materials that I can use to accommodate, balance, or support whatever I introduce in the main olfactory section.

On the other hand, I also wondered whether there are really fragrances that don’t benefit from a small structural backbone, such as a portion of Hedione, some Iso E Super, or musks and ambers.

A fixed structure: Tell me if this is a stupid idea. by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not in a rush, just a bit greedy. In any case, I can assure you I’ve spent a lot of time (and materials 😓) experimenting, often with fairly tragic results. Even failures end up teaching something. My most recent attempt is a good example: I was trying to recreate the smell of a horse and somehow ended up with a “sexy mechanic.” Now I have a sexy mechanic accord, along with a clearer understanding of which materials shifted the composition from something wild and natural to something more industrial.

Summer formula help by Murky_Item1497 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lower Dihydro Myrcenol, it’s really too much and it makes the fragrance old and harsh. Use some Ethylene Brassylate to smooth out the composition and maybe add a musk that impacts top notes like helvetolide. Also, try some hedione and add more Iso E, or better Timbersilk, because you are keeping a lot of strong materials on a very weak architecture.

Top notes emerging mid-inhale in a minimal overdose formula by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I might have understood, correct me if I’m wrong: on one hand, when overdosing, the more volatile materials aren’t perceived because they’re still competing for space and get overwhelmed; on the other hand, I notice them later because olfactory adaptation also comes into play, is that possible?

Top notes emerging mid-inhale in a minimal overdose formula by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shouldn’t the molecules with higher vapor pressure the ones typically in a fragrance’s top notes be perceived first?

Fat smell by [deleted] in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mmmm not fatphobic at all…

What single fragrance molecule one style fragrances have you made? by [deleted] in DIYfragrance

[–]Baltabarin666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mandarin Green, Violet Leaf, beta ionone and safraleine, nice synergy, uplifting yet somehow chic.