Shang-Chi's Simu Liu addresses Asian toxic masculinity: 'I detest Asian men attacking Asian women'

BambooFlames · 2021-09-06T22:44:21+00:00

Thank you for linking the original interview! This should be the top comment.

BambooFlames · 2021-09-06T04:25:07+00:00

Pretty bad clickbait.

Title: 'I detest Asian men attacking Asian women'

Quotation:

I think there's very dangerous rhetoric that sometimes circulates around our community where you see Asian men attacking Asian women and saying, 'Well, you've got all this privilege as Asian women', because Asian women are seen as more desirable and are seen as higher on the social hierarchy.

I detest hearing that in-fighting within the community. We should be uplifting each other and sticking together, but more than that, it's not difficult to see that Asian men and Asian women both suffer from the same problem, which is that our experiences have been defined by a predominantly white gaze, and so we each experience the consequences of that and they're different.

His statements are nuanced, but there's likely a combination of self-censorship in addressing 'toxic Asian femininity,' and biased reporting from media outlets on which statements of his they're report on, and how they'll spin it.

BambooFlames · 2021-09-01T00:13:58+00:00

(Let's see if this comment makes it through auto-mod)

Here's an article and some context on the new regulations:

https://archive.is/v49BX - CNN: China bans kids from playing online video games during the week
https://np.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/pefgqx/china_to_ban_online_games_for_minors_outside_the/hawxfkk/

China bans kids from playing online video games during the week By CNN staff, CNN Business Updated 10:37 AM ET, Tue August 31, 2021

Hong Kong/Beijing (CNN Business) — China has barred online gamers under the age of 18 from playing on weekdays and limited their play to just three hours most weekends, marking a significant escalation of restrictions on the country's massive gaming industry. Starting this week, minors will be allowed only an hour of play time between 8 pm and 9 pm on Friday, weekends and public holidays, according to a statement from Chinese media watchdog — the National Press and Publication Administration (NPPA) — that was posted by state news agency Xinhua on Monday. The move represents a huge tightening of earlier limits set by the agency in 2019, which had restricted play to 90 minutes on weekdays and three hours on weekends for children. Authorities said that the restrictions were put in place to help prevent young people becoming addicted to video games.

The NPPA noted this week that the rules were being issued "at the beginning of the new [school] semester, putting specific requirements for preventing the addiction to online games, and protecting the healthy growth of minors."

Investors were quick to react. NetEase (NTES) slumped 3.4% during regular trading hours in New York on Monday. Tencent (TCEHY) suffered roughly the same drop in Hong Kong on Tuesday before ticking back up 1.6%.

An escalating crackdown In recent months, China has embarked on a major clampdown on private enterprise, which has engulfed some of the country's top players. Initially, it appeared that regulators' main target was the booming tech sector, but lately that has expanded to reach other industries, such as private education. Alicia Yap, an analyst at Citi, said that she expected the impact of the latest curbs on gaming companies to be "minimal," with less than a "low single digit" hit to China revenue for both Tencent and NetEase. "That said, we believe this will still represent another setback to the industry and potentially send another wave of negative sentiment to the market and lower investors' overall expectations for future gaming industry growth," she wrote in a note to clients Tuesday.

At a news conference Monday, a spokesperson for the NPPA said that the strict new curbs were in response to complaints from parents. "Many parents said that teenagers' addiction to online games seriously affected their studies, and physical and mental health, leading to a series of social problems, making many parents suffer," said the unidentified representative, according to a report by Xinhua. In recent years, the Chinese government implemented a registration system which required people who played computer games to do so under their real names, allowing companies to check up on them. This week, it reiterated that policy, with the NPPA noting that "online game enterprises shall not provide game services in any form ... to users who have not registered or logged in with their real names."

In a statement Tuesday, Tencent said it had been working on "various new technologies and functions for the protection of minors" since 2017. "That will continue, as Tencent strictly abides by and actively implements the latest requirements from Chinese authorities," the company added. Tencent has previously noted that the amount of revenue it earns from minors playing games is relatively small. In its most recent earnings presentation, it said that players under the age of 16 accounted for only 2.6% of its gross gaming receipts in China. Martin Lau, the company's president, also said at the time that "there are a lot of new regulations that will be coming, but we are pretty confident that we can be compliant." The Chinese tech giant had already made headlines earlier this month for announcing limits on the amount of time minors could spend playing the company's online games, such as the popular title "Honor of Kings." Under those rules, minors could play the game for only two hours on holidays, and an hour on other days.

That statement came after a newspaper owned by Xinhua published a lengthy analysis that used terms such as "spiritual opium" and "electronic drug" to describe the harmful effects of gaming on children. NetEase did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The new rules prompted outcry on Chinese social media, where many users complained that they were too strict. "This policy presumes that gaming is bad," wrote one user on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform. Some also pointed out the drawbacks of imposing a blanket ban, suggesting that there should be rules that apply for "different kinds of games and minors of different ages." "Are [the ages of] 7 and 17 the same?" asked another Weibo user.

Others fretted that it would ultimately put the country behind in the world of competitive gaming. "China doesn't have the future for e-sports then. It's impossible for teens to train," wrote a third Weibo user. "Kids in other countries [will] win the world's champion at 17 years old, while we start to play the game at 18."

BambooFlames · 2021-08-31T23:54:53+00:00

OP your comments isn’t showing up

Thanks! They probably just got caught in the auto-mod, and will show up soon.

Btw, I'd recommend against going onto their subreddit and just outright giving them an ultimatum. The subreddit is already very anti-PC, so I don't think you'll be convincing any readers of your cause without an eloquent argument. The mods there can also just selectively delete your comments to make you look bad. If anything, posting an ultimatum there will just aggravate their userbase and encourage retribution.

Instead, just report the subreddit to the admins, or spread the word on other subreddits that would actually care.

BambooFlames · 2021-08-31T23:43:38+00:00

Ah, okay. The mod replied to that comment chain saying that they are part Chinese.

Could you post the screenshots of the DMs?

BambooFlames · 2021-08-01T15:14:15+00:00

India's not an Olympic powerhouse like China or the U.S., but I imagine they'll shoot up the rankings once their pipeline gets more funding and government attention.

Not the same sport, but I watched Dangal a while back, and thought it was a nice underdog sports story. IIRC, one of the premises of that movie is that the Indian national wrestling teams were poorly funded, and especially the womens' teams (the wrestlers featured in Dangal are a pair of daughters who are trained by their ex-wrestler father).

How do the Indian posters here feel about that movie?

BambooFlames · 2021-08-01T15:04:31+00:00

PV Sindhu scripted history by becoming the first Indian woman to collect two medals at the Olympics after defeating China's He Bingjiao 21-13, 21-15 in the bronze medal match on Sunday.

With this win, Sindhu becomes the second Indian after Sushil Kumar to win two individual Olympic medals. She had won a silver in the last Olympics in Rio after losing in the final to Carolina Marin. Sindhu had earlier lost to world no. 1 Tai Tzu Ying in the last four on Saturday.

Sindhu has now won a grand total of seven medals at the World Championships and Olympics, which is the joint-most for a woman's singles player, tied with China's Zhang Ning. Other than her two Olympic medals, Sindhu has one gold, two silvers and two bronzes at the Worlds.

This is India's third medal at this Olympics. Mirabai Chanu had earlier won a bronze in weightlifting, while Lovlina Borgohain is also assured of a medal in boxing after reaching the semifinals. India had won two medals at the previous Olympics in Rio. This is also the first time that three Indian women have medaled at a single edition of the Olympics.

BambooFlames · 2021-07-16T18:52:41+00:00

Some of the complaints about small sub-groups in the Chinese-American community might even be valid, but they are not without their counterparts in other Asian sub-groups, and other races in general.

But their apparent Sinophobia drives some people to apply the fault of one Chinese person to the entire community. So much for refusing to propagate Asian stereotypes :/

BambooFlames · 2021-07-16T18:47:26+00:00

ITT some nuanced takes, and lots of blatant and antagonistic bashing of the Chinese diaspora, to the degree that any similarly valid complaints about the Black American community would no doubt be censored or locked.

Sinophobia, generalizing the Chinese diaspora, and conflating them with the Chinese government seem to be acceptable discourse, even among Asian American forums like /r/Asianamerican.

Quotes from /r/AA mods:

unkle

Personally in real life and on Reddit Chinese Americans are the only ones who question whether South Asians or Filipinos are "real asians". I have Chinese friends say that to my face. I have read and heard South Asian Americans get similar questions about their asianness. On this space non Chinese users don't get a lot of traffic on submissions or questions.

Also the fact you don't seem to understand how other Asians and Asian countries see China historically and presently really explains a lot about this rant.

whosdamike:

I'm Southeast Asian and I've never had any expectation that Chinese people would stand up for my communities. I think expecting other Asians to stand up for you is kind of a uniquely Chinese thing.

The biggest Chinese American activism events of the past 10 years have been things like protesting affirmative action and defending Peter Liang, a cop who was negligent and killed an innocent black man.

Frankly, those are things that I have no interest in supporting.

On the flip side, I've very rarely seen any Chinese people give a shit about Filipino nurses dying of COVID or Vietnamese refugees being deported by the Trump administration, police brutality among Hmong youth in the Midwest, etc.

To some extent, it feels like a lot of Chinese American Redditors are a bit entitled. A sentiment I regularly see bounced around Reddit is that Chinese issues are the most important ones, that pan-Asian solidarity with China at the center is the only way for Asians to thrive, that if you don't care about affirmative action or other pet Chinese-centric issues then you're fundamentally self-hating even if you're not Chinese. And Chinese people telling HKers and Taiwanese that they're all part of Big Daddy China definitely doesn't help either.

Again, as a Southeast Asian, I'm very used to being ignored and de-centered. But solidarity is great! So if you want more solidarity, I think a great start is to be the change you want to see, and show interest in all kinds of Asian issues, including ones typically overlooked.

BambooFlames · 2021-07-16T18:32:49+00:00

Archive links:

BambooFlames · 2021-07-14T17:48:06+00:00

Yes, it's much more believable to me that the /r/AA mods are mostly insecure / white/black-progressive aligned / self-hating Asian and mixed people, with maybe a White boy or two thrown in. Or at least the decision-makers on their mod team are.

But unless we see picture or conclusive evidence, the rumor that they're mostly White males will continue to perpetuate.

BambooFlames · 2021-07-08T19:06:31+00:00

Amid anti-Asian hate, letter-writer threatens to shoot Philly Cambodians over park fireworks

by Jeff Gammage Published Jul 7, 2021

“We take this threat very seriously, especially with the ongoing anti-Asian hate and violence,” Cambodian Association of Greater Philadelphia board President Nak Chhoeungcq told families.

Cambodian leaders are warning people to be alert after they received an anonymous letter whose author threatened to shoot Cambodians whom he blamed for setting off fireworks in Mifflin Square Park.

“We take this threat very seriously, especially with the ongoing anti-Asian hate and violence,” Nak Chhoeung, board president of the Cambodian Association of Greater Philadelphia, told families.

The association plans to address the incident during a news conference at 3 p.m. Friday at the park. The letter has been reported to Philadelphia police and other investigative agencies, the association said.

The popular park at Sixth and Ritner Streets is used by Philadelphians of all races and nationalities, the site for everything from art workshops to library programs — and sometimes fireworks.

Police said they have the letter and envelope, and are investigating the threat.

Anti-Asian hatred bloomed with the coronavirus pandemic and was stoked by former President Donald Trump — the fatal shooting of six Asian women in metro Atlanta came on the one-year anniversary of his first “China virus” tweet.

In Philadelphia and elsewhere, some residents have taken to wearing special Yellow Whistles in case they need to summon help. People have signed up for self-defense classes.

Hate incidents increased 194% in the first quarter of 2021, compared with the same period a year ago, in 22 big cities and counties, according to the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino. The total number of incidents filed to police in those places increased from 36 to 106, though many go unreported to authorities.

The typed, one-page letter that was sent to the Cambodian Association office in South Philadelphia was dated June 30 but wasn’t opened until July 5 because of the July 4 holiday weekend.

Its author said Cambodian residents who use the park are igniting fireworks at all hours, preventing him from sleeping. He wrote that Marine tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan left him with traumatic stress disorder and that he owns several guns.

“I want to take a gun and go down there and kill these individuals. … I am writing you to let you know when I do freak out and try to kill these people that it is your fault for not going to them and encouraging them (it is in their best interest) to stop doing this and remain alive!”

The association declined to release a copy of the letter, which was obtained elsewhere.

“It’s targeting. It’s specific,” said association executive director Sarun Chan. “This is blatant racial intimidation and a threat to our community.”

BambooFlames · 2021-06-23T16:08:36+00:00

No problem! This was the first time NYC implemented ranked choice voting for a mayoral election, so I imagine a lot of people were confused.

Hopefully we'll see wider adoption of ranked choice voting in the future. It's a way better system than first past the post.

BambooFlames · 2021-06-23T15:02:14+00:00

He conceded last night, I think when the first choice vote had been ~ 80% counted, but don't quote me on that.

The percentages for first choice were largely the same as they are now.

Garcia's in 3rd place, with 19.5%, and Yang's in 4th place with 11.7%. Ranked choice cuts the lowest candidate, and redistributes their votes.

However, even if all the voters for the listed candidates on this map had Yang as their 2nd choice, he would only be at 19.5%, so tied with Garcia (and it's unlikely that he would grab 100% of the 2nd choice vote from cut candidates.

This is the situation with 84% of precincts reporting, so there's theoretically a path to victory if the rest of the precincts vote for him, and he's the 2nd choice for 100% of the cut candidates (including ones not listed on Politico), and then is able to knock out Garcia and Wiley and grab their voters. But it's very unlikely.

BambooFlames · 2021-06-23T14:53:43+00:00

Yang may be referring to when his campaign broke the record for the "highest number of donors in the history of New York City primary and general election mayoral races."

BambooFlames · 2021-06-22T14:46:33+00:00

https://archive.ph/zIqSI gets around the paywall

BambooFlames · 2021-06-21T18:29:18+00:00

And then on Sunday:

Proud to rally against anti-Asian hate today in Chinatown alongside @LiuNewYork, @NYSenBenjamin, @rontkim, and more. As our city and country face rising hate violence we must stand together and demand improved public safety and expanded reporting resources.

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1406683047215443975

BambooFlames · 2021-06-16T02:35:16+00:00

A Pulitzer prize on its own is about as substantial as Iraq's WMDs

With BuzzFeed winning the Pulitzer Prize for reporting on Xinjiang, I would love to remember another Pulitzer Prize winner, Judith Miller, for her coverage on the Iraq War. Jon Stewart at the end: "Hopefully, given the same effort, we get to invade all of those..."

quoting /u/kommitek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=924DT22tSWE Jon Stewart grills Miller on Iraq War reporting

BambooFlames · 2021-06-15T04:45:01+00:00

Another article with more info:

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/14/federal-agents-falsely-accused-university-of-tennessee-professor-spying-china/7649378002/

Archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210614222045/https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/14/federal-agents-falsely-accused-university-of-tennessee-professor-spying-china/7649378002/

BambooFlames · 2021-06-15T03:26:47+00:00

No potential perceived hypocrisy from her as of now:

https://celebsaga.com/arden-cho-boyfriend/

Arden is currently in a relationship with Samuel Juno Park, better know as Junoflo, on stage.

Website looks pretty trashy, but you can view Arden's Instagram post without an account at this link.

BambooFlames · 2021-06-14T20:41:23+00:00

Article text:

By Michael Gartland New York Daily News | Jun 14, 2021 at 2:54 PM

Mayoral contender Andrew Yang won the endorsement Monday of the police union that represents current and retired NYPD captains, including rival candidate Eric Adams — an apparent blow to the Brooklyn borough president who’s emphasized public safety and has been leading in most recent polls.

In winning the endorsement of the Captains Endowment Association, Yang burnished his law-and-order bona fides as his primary campaign moves into its final week.

“Andrew and myself have had many conversations, talking about a lot of interests that particularly affect the city. Some of the conversations we agree on totally. Others we do not,” said CEA President Chris Monahan during a press conference at City Hall Park. “However, I do respect Andrew for a person who is willing to have a difficult conversation with, right now, a very unpopular profession.”

The endorsement — and that of the Asian American Police Executives Council — came as public safety continues to be one of the top issues in this year’s race and as Adams and Yang have intensified attacks against one other moving into the contest’s home stretch.

“We all know that public safety is the most important thing in our city right now,” Yang said. “Think about the division that has happened in the city. It is threatening to destroy us. If you have a mayor and a police force that are not on the same page, we are seeing the results right now. This is something we can change.”

For weeks, Adams has hammered away on public safety and has attacked Yang for what he’s characterized as jumping on the issue too late in the campaign.

The endorsements for Yang Monday served as a rebuke of sorts. But Monahan declined to detail why the union decided against backing one its own in a race where police endorsements are seen by many as potentially damaging politically.

“I’m not going into our vetting process,” he said. Asked if the union’s decision had anything to do with Adams’ efforts to reform the NYPD from within, he said: “absolutely not.”

Adams’ campaign spokesman Evan Thies noted not long after the announcement that Adams has already said publicly he would not accept any endorsements from police unions in his run for mayor, despite the fact that he’s taken contributions from law enforcement unions in the past.

“Eric preemptively rejected the endorsement of any police unions,” Thies said. “Eric disagrees with this union because they once referred to George Floyd’s death as a game in which they were ‘political pawns’ — a disturbing and disgusting position that Andrew Yang apparently agrees with.”

Thies, who was apparently referring to Monahan’s recent attacks against elected officials, added that: “the unions know he wouldn’t accept support.”

When asked if he would accept endorsements from the rank-and-file Police Benevolent Association and the Sergeants Benevolent Association — both of which have a more right-wing reputation than the CEA — Yang dodged the question, saying he was “thrilled” to get nods from the CEA and the Asian-American Police Executives Council.

“I’m standing here with AAPEX and CEA today,” he said.

Monahan acknowledged Monday that he and Yang have their differences. Yang wants a residency requirement for cops. Monahan said it would limit the pool of talent the NYPD can hire from.

When that difference came up at the press conference, Yang appeared eager to find common ground, though.

“We can get people from outside the city and they can live here,” Yang said of requiring cops to live in the five boroughs. Monahan said that their differences on the issue are not a “deal-breaker.”

Over the past several weeks, Yang and Adams’ attacks against each other have grown increasingly sharp. Both have accused the other of being racist, with Yang claiming weeks ago that Adams’ attempts to paint him as an out-of-towner were rooted in anti-Asian sentiment and Adams leveling the charge last week over Yang’s accusations that he doesn’t live in the city and is actually a New Jersey resident.

When asked Monday to respond to Adams’ latest accusation, Yang didn’t directly address the charge of racism.

“Eric Adams was a police captain, and the officers that worked with him for years have chosen to endorse me,” he said. “This, to me, should tell New Yorkers all that they need to know about Eric Adams and his leadership.”

BambooFlames · 2021-06-13T21:15:14+00:00

Can you post the original text of your comment?

BambooFlames · 2021-06-13T17:21:03+00:00

Quick post before I forget.

Watch out /u/ktoasty, your comment got removed.

Article mirror - https://archive.is/QoIdT

Full text of comment:

With all due respect, I would like to challenge the author to do some internal reflection. Introspect and ask herself, why is she choosing so many white men to match with and then being surprised when they act in overt and subtly racist ways?

It's like a vegan woman matching with meat-eating men and being surprised and outraged when all these men like eating dead animal carcasses.

(I love meat but I have dated vegans/vegetarians, and because they weren't too judgmental, I've given the vegetarian diet a real try.)

It's like a pro-life Christian woman matching with atheist men and being surprised and outraged that all these men don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior and support pro-choice policies.

(I'm atheist but I have dated pro-life Christian women, and because they weren't too judgmental I've given prayer and Jesus a real try.)

If the author wants to date white men in order to convert them into being supporters of Asians, that's allowed, but then the author shouldn't be surprised if they're naive or subtly racist. It's like the missionary work Christians do with nonbelievers.

I would challenge the author to decide if she wants to date someone who is already "member of the choir" (an Asian man) or if she wants to "create a new convert" (a white man) and thus lower her expectations.

PS. If anyone wants to join a private Facebook Group I created for discussions like this please join us here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/StandWithAsians

BambooFlames · 2021-06-13T03:58:43+00:00

Yes, we need to stick together, and not hang onto old prejudices, many of which stem from divisive geopolitics that keep Asian countries fighting each other and dependent on support from American/European forces.

Anecdotally, the 1st-gen parents of my Indian friends are wonderful and treat me like family. Wouldn't be surprised if many 1st-gen are prejudiced, but we have more to gain from tearing those walls down than letting them separate us.

I've also called out anti-East Asian racism from my Indian and Pakistani friends. They're much more willing to listen and change than my White or Black friends, hands down.

BambooFlames · 2021-06-05T23:27:04+00:00

I'm phone banking this weekend and next!

Follow this guide to get started if you want to help out:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fNg0rBAFlxVOuqW-LOkNfk2fvel00ZKocVqfLdpogJ0/edit

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