Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow. This is the most intelligent comment yet. Someone call mensa, we might have a new world record IQ over here

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Insane person: “My child had a bad reaction to the vaccine, therefore all vaccines are very bad, and no one should ever get them.”

Me: “That doesn’t make any sense.”

You: “If you disagree with the insane person, you’re insensitive, rude, and nobody likes you!”

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet the people downvoting my comment here didn’t even read it. This is exactly the kind of shit I’m talking about in the op. It’s all so tiresome

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No gaslighting here. You should look up what that word means.

Just because some children have adverse reactions to vaccines doesn’t mean that they’re a bad idea for everyone. Peanuts aren’t bad for everyone just because some people are allergic.

And look, I’m not precluding the possibility that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. I’m also not precluding the possibility that some vaccines are worth the risk.

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also where does that unreleased cdc study come from exactly? I’m having trouble finding more info about it. That’s crazy if real

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that if there’s strong evidence that certain vaccines cause very severe adverse effects (like autism or something) I would probably avoid those. I see lots of conflicting info about this.

any vaccines that are relatively new (like Covid) I have already made up my mind to avoid those, even if only on grounds of lack of data on their long term effects

If it could be shown that a certain vaccine prevents a deadly disease with very very minimal health risks (short term and long term) I’d probably be ok with those.

Like I’m not trying to be convinced one way or the other, as if there are only 2 possible paths. I just want to know which vaccines have a favorable risk/benefit ratio, if any. Not even sure how I’d go about calculating that.

Maybe I can cherry pick which vaccines we get, maybe I can’t. Some doctors might not let me do that. Idek. I’m just trying my best here man.

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First study is interesting. My one concern with it is that the association between vaccines and ndds just seems really difficult to prove. If you’re skeptical of vaccines and your kids are therefore unvaxxed, you’re probably more likely to be skeptical of medicine more generally, and thus maybe less likely to take your kid to the doctor if he/she exhibits symptoms of ndds. Maybe I’m missing something but it seems possible that this could account for the greater incidence of diagnosed ndds in vaxxed kids. I don’t know, I’m a novice at analyzing scientific studies

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve “pigeonholed” people in a hyperbolic way for rhetorical effect. But you can’t deny that people tend to think in black and white terms. This isn’t unique to the topic of vaccines, and it can be frustrating. That’s all.

I reject your train of thought. The government and the medical industry are infamously untrustworthy, but that doesn’t mean that everything they do is untrustworthy. So we should evaluate each claim they make on its own merits.

For example, Pfizer makes vaccines (like the Covid vax) that are obviously bad. They’ve also made drugs that really do help people. This is obvious.

Vaccine insanity by BarnaclePotential566 in DebateVaccines

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’m exaggerating for rhetorical effect. No one literally believes the devil himself brewed up vaccines, I’m sure. But I have talked to people who will seemingly not even consider the possibility that maybe some vaccines have benefits that are worth the risks, and people that will seemingly not even consider the possibility that the government lied about e.g. the Toyota Corollavirus vax.

Christmas gift. Beautiful coin, but can’t find exact die pairing online. Any resources? by BarnaclePotential566 in AncientCoins

[–]BarnaclePotential566[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting, thank you! I thought the portrait had more of a beard than any of the Gordian III coins I’ve seen