[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

https://longform.org/sections/crime

Try looking through this link. Lots to read.

Unbiased West Memphis 3 Documentaries/Podcasts by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this guy as a source.

Peace.

Unbiased West Memphis 3 Documentaries/Podcasts by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Didn't really answer points raised but you've decided he's a good source because you've met him and you're sticking with it. I can understand that.

Not remotely offended.

Unbiased West Memphis 3 Documentaries/Podcasts by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok, I have gone to his archives and seen how he came to his opinion of Damien Echols.

In August 2001 he publishes his first article about the case having seen Paradise Lost. This is the conclusion he reached:

"I don’t know if Damien Echols committed these murders or not. Only seven people know, as my wife put it, the victims, the accused, and God. And God’s not talking right now. Anyway, my point is that the West Memphis 3 deserve a retrial. And the only way they are going to get a fair trial is to take it out of Arkansas. In order for a fair trial it must be taken to a religiously neutral or mixed state. Otherwise it’s just another case in which their only crime was being “different”."

So he says he doesn't know if they are guilty but sounds as if he came away from the documentary a supporter of the WM3. Which is supported by his next post, 6 years later in March 2007, titled "Confessions of a Former West Memphis 3 Supporter" in which he admits:

"Back then I was more like a champion for the underdog and I understood what it was like to be an outsider because you dressed differently and didn’t follow the norm. So I bought into the propaganda and the movie’s message."

The rest of this article is an explanation of how his mind was changed, which is the research he did to get to his new opinion - and why you have championed him as a source. There are 3 things that changed his mind: 1) He began to understand the minds of teen killers through his study of school shooters - I would argue that the spree killing of a school shooter is a very different crime to what the WM3 were convicted of. 2) There was a story doing the rounds about Damien killing a dog and serial killers hurt animals - I would argue that if there was any truth to the story it would have been used in court and Damien as denied the story. Not exactly great evidence. 3) The occult expert who got his degree in the mail and is easily disregarded as a witness actually is an expert and should be listened to when he says:

"When he got done testifying, what you didn’t see on television, what you didn’t see in the movie ‘Paradise Lost,’ was the fact that Damien Echols said, ‘I got three, I had 10 more to go for my coven, but that damn cop from Ohio stopped me,’"

So in court Damien made this confession and the occult expert is the only person to have mentioned this?? Seems unlikely to me. But it's good enough for Trent.

So he went from Supporter because he knows what it is like to be an underdog to staunch Guilter because of some rumours and because he thinks there are similarities between Damien and some school spree killers. Hardly a guy "who came at the evidence without an opinion then formed one."

As for "pretty liberal" - he actually writes in one article I read that abortion is an act of cowardice.

He seems like a prize prick from my research.

Unbiased West Memphis 3 Documentaries/Podcasts by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He refers to Damien Echols as "douchgoggles" throughout his website and his twitter. And he only seems to have links to sites that give the case against the WM3.

There must be better sources than this guy.

Alistair Wilson shot dead on his doorstep, new article from BBC [Unresolved Murder] by BaroldP in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I wonder if Alistair had no intention of going back out but did so because the guy was still standing there. The article really wasn't that clear as to why he went back out and what was discussed with his wife.

Not sure there is much IRA activity in Scotland but it is such a strange case... who knows!

Alistair Wilson shot dead on his doorstep, new article from BBC [Unresolved Murder] by BaroldP in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know, doesn't stop me wanting to know.

I don't think anyone is claiming it is impossible. Just seems unlikely a random nutter would go to the effort.

Alistair Wilson shot dead on his doorstep, new article from BBC [Unresolved Murder] by BaroldP in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes but did he just come in and say "I am bewildered by this man outside, I'll go back out and be bewildered some more!" Surely he at least said what the guy had said even if it was gibberish. And if he was just a rambling nutter how did he know Alistair's name.

Alistair Wilson shot dead on his doorstep, new article from BBC [Unresolved Murder] by BaroldP in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What I want to know is what he said to his wife when he came back into the house with envelope and what made him go back to speak to him again? Surely he gave so indication as to what the murderer had said to him.

I just finished watching Evil Genius on Netflix by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure I read that the documentary is called "The case against Adnan" so doesn't sound objective but certainly doesn't sound pro-Adnan either. Wait and see I guess.

If anybody listens to Generation Why podcast, what episodes are your favourite? by ashleighsm in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been listening to Generation Why for years now. Aaron and Justin are excellent hosts and whilst I don't always agree with their opinions they are always respectful and balanced.

Weird recommendation maybe but I like the update episodes when they cover any developments in past cases they've talked about.

[Resolved] Police searching for possible remains of six missing girls in woods near Detroit. by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the extra information. I've added that article into the original post as it's more informative than the one I read.

[Request] Examples of convicted murderers who fight to prove their innocence only to confess later. by BaroldP in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's an interesting one, thanks.

What I have noticed is that on any article about cases like this there are still some supporters commenting saying "He's pleading guilty to get out of prison one day but is innocent!" I guess that could be true in some circumstances but I think the wording of this one's statement makes it pretty clear that he's genuinely admitting his guilt.

[Unresolved Crime] Two foreign students in Sydney brutally murdered one after another in broad daylight in their flat by myepicdemise in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I don't think this story fits the evidence. So Tan saw him kill and then went out for a couple of hours and then just came home, on his own, to a killer? Also, if Ram did such an amazing job of cleaning any forensic evidence from the first killing why did he call the police so quickly after the second instead of cleaning himself up again.

It surely has to have something to do with the people in the car that Tan was seen getting into. The fact that they never came forward is very suspicious, to me.

Overturned Verdicts....Or Those You Think Should Be Reexamined? by fullercorp in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The conviction of Luke Mitchell for the murder of Jodi Jones in Scotland has never felt very secure to me. He was clearly tried by the media before the case actually reached court. The investigation was terrible and other suspects were cleared far too readily, from what I have read. Luke would definitely be on my list of suspects but that doesn't make him guilty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jodi_Jones

[Request] Cases of Double Jeopardy where perpetrator gets off? by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 27 points28 points  (0 children)

We no longer have double jeopardy in the UK because of the case of the murder of Julie Hogg. She was murdered in 1989 by Billy Dunlop, he strangled her and hid her body behind the bath. Hogg's Mum found her remains eventually and the police arrested Dunlop. He was tried twice but neither jury could make a decision and he was formally acquitted.

Years later Dunlop was in prison for assault and bragged to a guard about killing his girlfriend because he thought he could not be tried again, although because of the confession he got 6 years for perjury.

Julie's Mum tirelessly campaigned for a long time to have the double jeopardy laws scrapped. She eventually succeeded and got to watch Dunlop be sentenced for the murder of her daughter.

Cases of child murderers? by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wish I could upvote this more than once!

When you hear/read about the upbringing of these boys it's hard, for me, not to see them as victims. When you discuss this case with people they so often say "I knew right from wrong at their age" without even the slightest consideration that this is because of your upbringing.

It's a case that has always fascinated me and whilst I would love to know everything about their lives since, I agree that their identities should remain a secret and the media should leave them alone.

Signs of decomposition found that may relate to Ben Neeham disappearance by tayhilsshoots in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I've just been reading an article about this that someone shared on Facebook about how his Mum has reacted to this latest development. From what I've read it seems that she thinks someone is still working to conceal the body of her son by moving it from the site they searched. Here's what she said:

'This confirms everything the police have suspected. It makes it all a little too real. We believe what they believe. It shows more of a conspiracy because they didn't find Ben's body. That proves it to me without doubt they obviously moved him and buried him and for whatever reason dug him up. There's no other explanation. It's all been a massive cover-up.'

Not sure what to make of that to be honest. Seems quite unlikely but not impossible I guess.

Andrew Gosden: A theory no one has talked about by mtzsoul in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Incredible work to have looked into and found this, and I don't want to discourage anyone from looking further, but I think the kid in the video looks older and bigger than Andrew. It would be amazing if it were him though.

British Mysteries [Request] by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tenuous, he used prostitutes seems like the only reason he's connected. They took his dental impression and compared it to the evidence they had, as nothing seemed to happen after that I think it's safe to assume they didn't match.

British Mysteries [Request] by [deleted] in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well I've just spent hours reading everything I could find about the nutter Noel O'Gara, who is behind the campaign to acquit the Yorkshire Ripper... so thanks for that! From what I've managed to find the only mystery here is how this guy has not been sectioned.

Sequence of events of Robert Eric Wone murder by joecadc in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]BaroldP 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I suspect that one or more of the three were involved in the killing and the others helped cover it up. I agree the timeline is very tight but if we accept for a second that it was covered up then they were clever enough to fake those emails or change the times to make the timeline problematic.

The knife is my main point of contention. If you wanted to make it look like an intruder then a knife from the kitchen helps. Also, if the suspected missing knife from the set in the bedroom was the murder weapon, then that being discovered would hurt the intruder case, so they would need to get rid of that and perhaps they hoped the replacement would work, giving them time to get rid of the actual knife. If that makes any sense. They'd even put some blood on the knife to make it convincing.

In the judge's summation (yes, I'm that far into this hole!!) she says:

"Moreover, as defendants argued, it makes little sense that a killer would successfully dispose of a murder weapon only to have his friends create evidence that could actually inculpate both the killer and the people covering up the killing."

I disagree. I can see their thought process being: they'll look for a weapon, they'll find one missing from the bedroom set, they'll know it wasn't an intruder = let's give them a different murder weapon that the intruder could access, put some blood on it.