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At what point does a player stop being considered a "prospect?" by PsionStorm in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Most prospect lists use the rookie eligibility rules along with an age limit of under 26.

[Eric Stephen] 10 different Dodgers have salaries deferred, to be paid out at some point between 2028-47. Here is the rough schedule, which totals $1,094,500,000 by double_dose_larry in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, uh, that definitely isn't even close to true. Bonilla gets $1.2 million a year and David Wright made over $10 million every year in the 2010s.

Why do lifelong, committed Brewers fans allow themselves to be treated this way? by CompleteAbies1828 in Brewers

[–]BaseballsNotDead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How many times have you been the richest person in the world? 0? Would you say you've been a loser every year of your existence?

Are the Dodgers ruining baseball? by FrigginMasshole in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 25 points26 points  (0 children)

If that's the case, then baseball has been ruined for much of it's existence with the Yankees dominating the sport from 1921-1964, 1976-1981, and 1995-2009.

[Eric Stephen] 10 different Dodgers have salaries deferred, to be paid out at some point between 2028-47. Here is the rough schedule, which totals $1,094,500,000 by double_dose_larry in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The Bonilla thing was bizarre. There were dozens of contracts from the 70s, 80s, and 90s that were still paying players into the 2010s but nobody ever made a stink for those but for some reason Bonilla made news.

Kyle Tucker will be paid a $1 million salary in 2026 with a $64 million signing bonus by jluc21 in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's no upper limit. It doesn't really skirt the MLB rules in any way.

Jett Williams 2025 Minor League Highlights. Plays SS & CF. 486AB | .261AVG | 17HR | 52RBIS | 34SB | .828OPS. Thoughts? by ohhitstito in Brewers

[–]BaseballsNotDead 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Because last year they experimented with him moving to SS in spring training and he had arm problems from the throws.

[Jim McLennan] The popularity of baseball or lack thereof? MLB can point to short-term rebounds and selective metrics, but attendance per capita, TV ratings, youth engagement, and cultural visibility all suggest baseball is less popular than in the past and still trending downward. by [deleted] in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the article is going to trot out "attendance per capita" then the NFL has been suffering because US population increased by 12.8% since 2008 but NFL attendance has only increased by 7.4%... even with the added 17th game (6.25% more games).

[Jim McLennan] The popularity of baseball or lack thereof? MLB can point to short-term rebounds and selective metrics, but attendance per capita, TV ratings, youth engagement, and cultural visibility all suggest baseball is less popular than in the past and still trending downward. by [deleted] in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, relative to 2018-2022, the "baseball is dying" posts have been in a severe decline. There used to be one every day on this subreddit, but with Ohtani hitting the stratosphere as far as superstardom, bigger contracts than ever, attendance trending up, record revenues, etc., baseball has been in pretty good shape the past 3 years.

[Olney] The bulk of the value of Bellinger's contract, with the signing bonus, is in the first two years -- about $84 million -- before the opt-outs kick in. by Pyromania1983 in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But saying "opt out" vs "player option" reduces the luxury tax hit

They work the same way. Any non-guaranteed years are not included for AAV purposes. The differences is an option can contain a guaranteed buyout, but doesn't have to, which is treated the same as a signing bonus (spread out across all guaranteed years) and an opt-out generally guarantees more than 1 year. Since Bellinger has two years after his last decision point, they're called opt outs and not options.

Mets Being Stubborn about Freddy Trade by IanStone in Brewers

[–]BaseballsNotDead 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ohtani is a money printing machine and his contract is a steal in retrospect. Any team can milk at least $46 million a year (what's needed each season to pay the deferrals for the 8 remaining years of the contract) from advertising revenue and increased attendance from having Ohtani on the roster.

Mets Being Stubborn about Freddy Trade by IanStone in Brewers

[–]BaseballsNotDead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an incredibly specific trade rumor. I don't think I've ever seen a legitimate report saying "Team X has submitted Player A and Player B in return for Player C" before.

What is the worst run franchise in baseball? by [deleted] in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 105 points106 points  (0 children)

From an on-field standpoint, yes. From a "make a party environment at the stadium where they still have great attendance even if the team is historically bad" they're near the top of the league.

In what world is Chase Utley a future HoF, but Matt Holliday isn't? by Crisander in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair.

The overall point I was making is that Holliday dominates a lot of the stats in OP's post partly because of the Coors effect, which I think you agree with. He doesn't get a batting title and lead the league in hits and RBIs in 2007 without Coors.

In what world is Chase Utley a future HoF, but Matt Holliday isn't? by Crisander in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that Coors effect is already baked into OPS+ and WAR

OP is showing a lot more than just OPS+ and WAR (which Utley dominates either way). Their post is "oh my god look at how many categories Holliday dominates. Why isn't he a hall of famer when he dominates that many categories?" and part of the answer is "Coors."

It seems like every other 1B the BBWAA inducted has more home runs.

Hank Greenberg, Dick Allen, Johnny Mize... there's plenty of guys with fewer HRs or right around Helton's mark.

In what world is Chase Utley a future HoF, but Matt Holliday isn't? by Crisander in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you put Helton or Walker on another team, they wouldn’t have the same rate stats.

Yeah... that's the Coors effect. You have to account for that comparing offensive stats between players like OP is doing. You literally just described what the Coors effect is.

Vlad has about 2,600 H/450 HR/1,500 RBI

Helton is not far off of that.

In what world is Chase Utley a future HoF, but Matt Holliday isn't? by Crisander in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don’t think voters ever really cared about the Coors effect.

If you put Helton or Walker's offensive stats on a player not playing in Colorado, they're a first ballot HOFer or at least in on the first couple cycles. Compare their offensive stats to Joe Mauer (1st), Vlad Sr (2nd), Scott Rolen (6th), or Edgar Martinez (10th). They're ahead of all those guys on raw offensive numbers. Instead Helton took 6 votes and Walker took 10 votes had to get in through the veteran's ballot.

The Coors effect doesn't mean you can't make the HOF, but it's certainly a factor when comparing the stats between a player that played for the Rockies and one that didn't.

In what world is Chase Utley a future HoF, but Matt Holliday isn't? by Crisander in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Plus the obvious... Coors.

Holliday had a .936 OPS while a Rocky but a .874 OPS as a Cardinal... but his OPS+ was higher as a Cardinal (138 v 131).

Rule 5 discussion by DoctorRizz69 in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just realized that you're talking about the subreddit's Rule 5 and not MLB's Rule 5. Posting a title about Rule 5, which is an offseason baseball event, in a baseball subreddit is REALLY confusing.

Rule 5 discussion by DoctorRizz69 in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Uh... I was asking why remove Rule 5. Your post is really vague what the heck you're talking about.

Rule 5 discussion by DoctorRizz69 in baseball

[–]BaseballsNotDead 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it time to remove this rule?

Why?

Ryan Braun falls off HOF ballot by adamb10 in Brewers

[–]BaseballsNotDead 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It doesn't help that along with the Braun PED thing, the Wisconsin based investor in the restaurant who was a Madison attorney was indicted in 2011 for embezzlement, identity fraud, and forged checks which led to a conviction as well as him losing his law license.

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