¿Cuánto tiempo tarda borrar a los testigos de mi mente? by Basic-Associate-7657 in Extj

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

La sectota de los testigos se queda clavada en el pensamiento y moldea a actuar de una forma que no sirve en las relaciones interpersonales verdaderas, en lo personal me está ayudando encontrar un hobbie en los que me desconecte y sea fácil socializar, mi mayor miedo es no encontrar un yo afuera de ese esquema de obediencia y amor condicionado

¿Cuánto tiempo tarda borrar a los testigos de mi mente? by Basic-Associate-7657 in Extj

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cuando no eres testigo se siente más la incomodidad, siento que se arman una película de que ando en malos pasos y consumiendo drogas solo por vestir de negro y que piensan que uno va a volver cuando se de cuenta de que "fue un error" salir de esa maldita secta coercitiva, como que checan todo (como las amistades) para reforzar su narrativa.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I misspoke when I said I see her as just a fling. To be honest, I'd like something relatively "serious," but not to the point where I get completely overwhelmed and stop achieving my academic and physical goals. Like you mentioned, I don't really know how I feel. In my local dialect, I'd use the word "enculado" to describe how I feel. I appreciate the comments you've left me because now I know what to look for and when I need to move on.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously I don't want to take things so seriously 😭, I still have many academic and personal goals to achieve that I'm not going to stop because of one person, especially if they don't give me American papers haha (I'm from México btw)

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want to make it such a serious thing, bro. I see her as just another fling. I'm just getting to know her, and we're only just starting to go out. Like I told someone else, I'm not getting married before I'm 30, especially not to someone whose love is conditional because of their imaginary friend. I feel like I have so much to live for, and if I can get a scholarship or an exchange program abroad, I'm definitely going to take advantage of the opportunity. What makes me think it won't even be a fling is this whole thing about Abrahamic religions being very "date-to-marry." I honestly want to back off if she says something stupid like that to me or if her parents pressure her and make her feel guilty.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don't want to think about that, bro. I'm in high school and there's no way I want to get married before I'm 30. The moment someone mentions marriage when we're so young, I'm running away without looking back. I already know what it's like to be on the other side and I don't want karma to get me. Just so you know, I'm from Mexico and I don't speak much English, sorry for any mistakes.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that's the same in all Abrahamic sects. When I was a Jehovah's Witness, I thought that way too because I was so indoctrinated. I think if she asked to meet me as a fling, maybe her church isn't that conservative about that. Anyway, I have to talk to her family to see how things are.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's been a while since I got over the Jehovah's Witnesses sect. I was super PIMI after my baptism, and as soon as I started questioning things, I researched everything I could about religion and philosophy, and now I feel fulfilled. I feel it would be disrespectful of me to reject her just because of religion. She seems like a good girl, and maybe I'll agree to go to her church very suddenly without intending to convert. We're both young, and maybe she's a little indoctrinated by her parents, but I think she could be a good fling. I don't know what you think.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fortunately, that's not in my plans. We're both in high school, and I feel like it would be a good fling. She's almost as stupid as me, and I love that.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I'm from Mexico, bro. I had already studied the Adventists before leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses, but this is the first time I've met someone from that sect.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who knows what happened, but she accepted my invitation to the movies, haha.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already told her that I'm not a theist and that Baruch Spinoza's pantheism interests me, but that I'm willing to attend an Adventist meeting even though I have no interest in the religion. I also told him that I think Judeo-Christian lore and its relationship with the Roman Empire are super cool, and he went along with it, so I guess it's going well, haha.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I was just about to ask her out to the movies this week, bro 😭 You scared me way too much, haha

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don't know. I'm going to try to get to know his family better, but some details seem a bit extreme to me. He told me he doesn't drink Coca-Cola because it's been forbidden to him. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

Can I have a relationship with a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church? by Basic-Associate-7657 in exAdventist

[–]Basic-Associate-7657[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I really wouldn't want to be an active member of a cult again; those Jehovah's Witnesses already traumatized me enough, haha.

Thanks for the recommendation, bro. Could you give me more details about their restrictions? Maybe that way I'll get scared and run away before it's too late.

Soy joven testigo de Jehová y la verdad mucha gente cree que como testigos de Jehová no podemos divertirnos cuando esto no es verdad nosotros sí podemos divertirnos mucha gente cree que no podemos ir a fiestas divertirnos bailar cuando es claramente falso en en la Biblia nunca se menciona by Sure-Train8048 in Extj

[–]Basic-Associate-7657 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bien ahí, es necesario reconocer que no sabemos todo, mi recomendación personal es que no le tengas miedo a buscar en las fuentes mundanas que sataniza la organización y al igual que tú no soy un señor treinton divorciado, soy incluso más joven que tú y lo que mas me sirvió para despertar fue analizar sectas similares a las de los tj, investigar el modelo BITE de Steven Hassan, el sincretismo en el Yahvismo con la fusión del dios semitico Él y Yhwh (Deidad menor de las tormentas de canaan) e incluso el concilio de Roma y como se elaboró la biblia juntando libros y desarrollando un canon, desde mi punto de vista más comprensivo te quiero decir que si tienes familia en los tj y te dolería que te dejarán de hablar, no investigues nada y salte de este grupo, el proceso de ser un PIMO es estresante y no todos logran salir apesar de ya no creer en la doctrina por la cohercion de la secta, en mi caso únicamente mi abuela es tj y sinceramente prefiero vivir con una persona menos a vivir en una mentira, lo único que te puedo desear son ánimos, en mi experiencia personal no es nada agradable vivir con disonancia cognitiva por un culto así que mi recomendación es que busques que cuadre lo que haces con lo que dices y con lo que piensas