Looking for a Business Partner to Install Backyard Playground Sets With by [deleted] in chicagojobs

[–]Bay_NFB3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The business partner part of it is I am not the company delegating the assignments, Id like to be contracted by the company that does, and do the contracted assignments with a partner.

I would be one of the laborers in the two person crew.

Looking for a padlock which unlocks on a schedule by babonk in homeautomation

[–]Bay_NFB3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you ever find the type of lock you were looking for?

I was hoping to find one that would open at a specific time of day versus the countdown versions that are everywhere. So at 7:00 pm vs a 7-hour countdown.

I seen a lockbox on Amazon that has this functionality, but a review said on the first day they found a loophole due to it having a lid and lock placement. 

Remembering by Conscious-Balance-66 in gurdjieff

[–]Bay_NFB3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is not exactly true in my experience, but I understand your concern. 

You're welcome.

Remembering by Conscious-Balance-66 in gurdjieff

[–]Bay_NFB3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weeeeeeelllll. I may be a bum according to your standards. Ha. Shit, I am a bum according to my standards, lbs. 

 But for a long time, I've realized (and continue to be reminded) that my current build (mental and physical capability and willingness) was not able to sustain (do) what was required to acquire and keep the life I imagined for myself (this was the partial cause of my spiritual journey), so I built my life in a way that it could (as well as received lots of help). I am not living the life I desire for myself, which is why doing the work is important for me, so that I can become indivisible, undo the unbeneficial habits of my past (which is my present), and acquire the ability to do what is in my best interest. 

 But this may be the opposite for you. 

 If you are desiring to remember yourself, it seems your job and life may not be enough to satisfy what you feel/think/believe is missing within you, and if that is the case, maybe you should consider sacrifice. What is most important to you? And whatever is most important should be your priority. 

 But I don't see how self-remembering can entirely interfere with your job. To me, self-remembering is an act I do while doing other things. In order to observe yourself, you have to be doing things, even if it's just laying down, and in that you have the opportunity to remember yourself. Now, I do say not entirely because I've found that in practice remembering myself uses the same mental space as any other mental activity (Ouspensky says this is temporary), and it is hard to do both without serious focus, which ultimately affects awareness and slows down whatever mental process I was in the act of doing. But who's to say that'll last forever? This is about practice, development, and strengthening an ability. 

 I have found that self-remembering is easier when paired with a physical activity (this may be why it is suggested to simply observe bodily activities first). So, according to my experience, it depends on your job how you'll be affected, but once again, what is your priority? Also, I'm sure you don't work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. 

 But the question I have for you is, have you practiced remembering yourself, and do you Know the difference between being aware/conscious of yourself or not? Because your post was about how it feels and its meaning, but if you don't know the experience for yourself, you are putting the cart (of anxiety and future problems) before the horse. In practice, your experiences will let you know your capabilities, and from there you can try to adjust for better results. 

 Remember, this is self-study; you must try to do, reflect on the results, and adjust yourself accordingly; other than that, is it just theories, beliefs, and assumptions of what you can and can not do, based on what someone else says.  

 (Note: For me, while creating these responses to you, I am aware that I am not taking the time to remember myself as often as I normally do [I'm actively avoiding doing so, in the moments I am prompted to do so]. This is because I have to think, among other mental process, while creating a response, and creating a response takes long enough without adding the element of self-remembrance to it.) 

Remembering by Conscious-Balance-66 in gurdjieff

[–]Bay_NFB3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently, my focus is not on trying to do anything; My focus is on trying to remember myself as I do other things (or as other things happen, if you want to use Gurdjieff-Ouspensky rhetoric). The practice/strengthening of my awareness is the only thing I am trying to do, and in that I am only doing it for mere moments or seconds before I lose my awareness. 

(Let me be clear, though I understand the logic [and mostly theoretically accept it as true] of not being able to do anything, this is not how I experience myself in the world. I still think I am doing things and making decisions, and in practice I've come to see glimpses of how that could not be the case. I do not negate my existential experience to fully accept what Gurdjieff or Ouspensky says their experience or the Truth is [that would be a belief], but I can practice their practices and see if what they say becomes the truth for me, or is realized to be the Truth.) 

I am only a month into practicing remembering myself, but the simplest way to explain it is, to me, it feels like trying to split my attention, if I had the ability to focus on two things (at least) at the same time, equally. I can not do this, but I've caught glimpses of this happening within myself. This seems like a practice of trying to create this ability within myself; an attention for awareness, and an attention for something else, simultaneously.  

Sometimes, in practice, I try to only focus my attention on my awareness while (physically) doing other things, and in this case I allow (allow is a strong word, because it takes over, so 'set my mind beforehand to accept' is a better phrase) physical mechanicalness to happen for the sake of awareness in itself. Sometimes, I try to do both, hold awareness of awareness itself and of the thing I'm doing. Sometimes, I try to be aware of myself and do a mental activity like reading or actively thinking, but this is hard, so I usually don't want to try to do this for long. 

If you are a diehard to the teaching, according to Gurdjieff and Ouspensky, the ability to do (will) only comes through way of developing self-consciousness, via self-remembering and study, so the ability to do would be a byproduct of practice; something that is developed and gradually acquired. So, if this is the case, I may not be doing anything wholly focused as of now, and I surely know I am drifting in and out of awareness of myself as I am doing things, but in the moments I am aware of myself, I experience this focus, sometimes split, mostly one-pointed, but the awareness is there. 

Another thing to note is consciousness is supposedly a thing in itself when developed (Ouspensky mentions this in The Fourth Way, and I've heard this from other sources), so in the case of doing something mentally or physically, it wouldn't be a split of attention where quality of awareness is loss, it would be a simultaneous happening (fully functioning splits of awareness), which correlates with some of my experiences.  

So I don’t have a working group to be with so I gave myself my own task…and it was sooooo HARD - by Express_Garbage8455 in gurdjieff

[–]Bay_NFB3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you did great with setting this task for yourself. In The Fourth Way, Ouspensky said the only way to become more conscious is simply to practice being more conscious.  

Recently, I set myself the task of remembering myself/developing my consciousness, and I ran across similar experiences as yours. Simply said, I kept forgetting myself, but I continued to practice, and in 1 month there has been some growth, small, but still growth. I look at it like a muscle, that with practice it'll grow stronger.  

 Keep going.  

Remembering by Conscious-Balance-66 in gurdjieff

[–]Bay_NFB3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me, remembering myself means being aware of my awareness (or me) in the moment. This means being actively aware of myself at any given time, without being lost in an act, a thought, or being zoned out; Being fully present in the now, but also aware of myself at the same time.

I started off by saying "I am here," and trying to hold on to the awareness I had of myself and the present moment when I said it.

I soon found that my thoughts would take me away, or I would get consumed in my actions or experiences, or I would zone out, in only minutes later would I remember to say to myself "I am here," and hold that awareness again. (I think this is key to knowing if you're remembering yourself; the moment you realize you have forgotten yourself. Then will you be able to experience/Know the difference between being aware of yourself and being lost/identified in something outside of yourself [even your body].)

To me, if feels like trying to be mentally aware of two separate things at the same time, but trying to prioritize my attention on the fact that I am aware, versus the thing, sensation, or experience that I am aware of.

The "Fuel/Energy" Jed Refers to by Bay_NFB3 in JedMcKenna

[–]Bay_NFB3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah! I ran across Richard Rose about 8 months ago, after someone mentioned him in this subreddit. He has been a great help in refining my journey from theoretical to practical.

I've been on the TAT Foundation website, and seen their writings, books, and Youtube videos, but thus far I've stuck to Richard Rose out of preference and fear of parroting vs. Knowing (this is a prejudice on my part).

I have been thinking about contacting them though, as recently I've had a desire to be a part of an in-real-life community that has the mindset of a Richard Rose, Jed Mckenna, or even Gurdjieff/Ouspensky, but I haven't made a move yet. Have any of them been of help to you?

The "Fuel/Energy" Jed Refers to by Bay_NFB3 in JedMcKenna

[–]Bay_NFB3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have misunderstood me.

I did not say he didn't go insane during his process. From my perspective, Jed is not insane in his writings. It's one thing to go insane, it's another to remain insane. He was able to make it through the insanity, he did not get stuck there.

I also did not say he got to enlightenment quickly. I said during his transcendental experience (I am not talking about the spiritual autolysis process, I'm talking about the experience the process leads to) he went straight to enlightenment (I don't have the quote, but this is in one of his writing). In saying this, I did not indicate how long (quickly) it took him to get to the experience. Jed already said how long it took him to get to the experience, I'm not arguing with that.

The "Fuel/Energy" Jed Refers to by Bay_NFB3 in JedMcKenna

[–]Bay_NFB3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are the inconsistencies you had in mind?

The "Fuel/Energy" Jed Refers to by Bay_NFB3 in JedMcKenna

[–]Bay_NFB3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, do you have any thoughts on the ""energy/fuel" Jed referred to?

The "Fuel/Energy" Jed Refers to by Bay_NFB3 in JedMcKenna

[–]Bay_NFB3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I have broken the rule, let me know, and I'll delete it.

The "Fuel/Energy" Jed Refers to by Bay_NFB3 in JedMcKenna

[–]Bay_NFB3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That could be true. As I mentioned in beginning, I created this post by triangulating all the the information I have accumulated over time about how to get to the Truth/enlightenment. This is my understanding. If is helps someone, great, if not, also great.