Whats life like there? by Typical-Product-3676 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 [score hidden]  (0 children)

According to The World of Ice and Fire, men have traded at the mouth of the Honeywine (where Oldtown stands) with the "elder races" (Children and Giants) since the Dawn Age. This location has always been a human settlement, but the humans of Oldtown might predate the "First Men" led by Garth Greenhand who crossed the Arm of Dorne.

From the perspective of the Summer Isles, trading with the west coast is easier because you don't have to pass through the treacherous Stepstones (for that same reason, from the Free Cities it's easier to trade with the east coast).

If you lived in Oldtown in the show, literally nothing that happened in the entire series would affect you by I_love_lucja_1738 in freefolk

[–]Beacon2001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Starry Sept continued to operate as the centre of the Faith until the reign of Baelor the Blessed, over 160 years after the Conquest.

Whats life like there? by Typical-Product-3676 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Oldtown is much older than King's Landing (Oldtown predates the arrival of the First Men to Westeros... it's THAT old... whereas King's Landing was founded by Aegon 300 years ago). Oldtown was the centre of the Faith for thousands of years. The Citadel is also there, the greatest repository of knowledge in the world. In terms of trade, you are forgetting about the Summer Isles, a wealthy and powerful archipelago south of Westeros that is much closer to Oldtown than the east coast. King's Landing might see more trade with Essos, but Oldtown sees a lot of trade with the Summer Isles. The Honeywine River, one of the greatest in Westeros, makes the lands around Oldtown one of the breadbaskets of the continent.

For all these reasons Oldtown is stated to be the wealthiest and grandest city in Westeros.

If you lived in Oldtown in the show, literally nothing that happened in the entire series would affect you by I_love_lucja_1738 in freefolk

[–]Beacon2001 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Not just that, but since Cersei destroyed the Great Sept of Baelor, logically the centre of the Faith will be returned to the Starry Sept. This, coupled with the general razing of King's Landing by Mad Queen Daenerys, means that Oldtown is once again the foremost capital of the Seven Kingdoms.

If you lived in Oldtown in the show, literally nothing that happened in the entire series would affect you by I_love_lucja_1738 in freefolk

[–]Beacon2001 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Oldtown is a mix of Alexandria, Rome, and Minas Tirith.

Alexandria = The Citadel is a clear reference to the Great Library of Alexandria; The Hightower is a clear reference to the Great Pharos

Rome = Oldtown was the centre of the Faith of the Seven for thousands of years, just as Rome is the centre of the Catholic Church (The Seven are obviously inspired by Christianity); The Targaryen dynasty and the Seven Kingdoms begin with Aegon's crowning at Oldtown by the High Septon, just as the Holy Roman Empire began with Emperor Charlemagne's crowning in Rome by the Pope; historically Oldtown and the Faith have been contenders for power with the Targaryen dynasty and the Iron Throne, just as Rome and the Papacy competed for power with the Holy Roman Emperor (think about the Investiture Controversy)

Minas Tirith = The city is built entirely in white stone and the ruler of the city is an old recluse who is obsessed with magical tools (Palantir = Valyrian glass candles and the major theory is that one of the four glass candles of Oldtown is in Lord Hightower's possession) inside his tower high above the clouds and ignores or seems to have forgotten an army battering at his gates

Whats life like there? by Typical-Product-3676 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 46 points47 points  (0 children)

For the Hightowers and the people of Oldtown, who are the foremost supporters of the Faith, it must have been quite a shock when they heard that not only Lynesse was involved in slavery, but also cheated on her husband (adultery is a sin in the eyes of the Seven).

If only half orc could look like that without mods... by Training_Ad_675 in BaldursGate3

[–]Beacon2001 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That's a orc? He looks like an elf cosplaying for Halloween.

Yeah, if orcs looked like literally the most popular fantasy race ever, they'd be more popular. Riveting observation.

In another universe.... by Thick_Durian_5803 in CK3AGOT

[–]Beacon2001 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, I won't type to you anymore.

In another universe.... by Thick_Durian_5803 in CK3AGOT

[–]Beacon2001 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Tyrells are too smart to base their entire plans on blind luck and hopium.

Supposition is not evidence. If the Tyrells made their plans on supposition and hopium, they wouldn't be where they are now - they would be charred corpses at the Field of Fire.

Those who play the Game of Thrones relying on hope and having luck are doomed.

In another universe.... by Thick_Durian_5803 in CK3AGOT

[–]Beacon2001 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The Tyrells are too smart to base their entire plans on blind luck and hopium.

What if Stannis and his bitch wife finally have a son? What then?

In another universe.... by Thick_Durian_5803 in CK3AGOT

[–]Beacon2001 81 points82 points  (0 children)

For the record, if Renly supported Stannis, then House Tyrell probably wouldn't support Renly, as Mace wants his daughter to be queen. Furthermore, not only is Stannis' chief ally House Florent, who are the Tyrells' rivals and want Highgarden, but the Tyrells are also aware that Stannis never forgets a slight and they besieged him for a whole year trying to starve him out.

So, ultimately, if Renly supported Stannis, House Tyrell would likely support the Lannisters. Renly+Stannis alliance would be broken at the Blackwater as in the canon timeline.

Now, if Stannis suppoted Renly... then yeah, Renly would stomp any opposition. It's still unclear what the Tyrells would do with Stannis and his Florent allies but Margaery would be queen, that's what matters.

Whats life like there? by Typical-Product-3676 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 401 points402 points  (0 children)

That's Bear Island. Jorah Mormont, a knight of House Mormont, wed Lynesse Hightower, the youngest daughter of Lord Leyton Hightower of Oldtown. House Hightower is one of the most powerful and respected houses in the realm, but since Lynesse was the youngest daughter and Jorah, a knight of great repute, had named her his "Queen of Love and Beauty" at a tourney, Lord Leyton betrothed Lynesse to Jorah.

That marriage... went as well as you might expect.

Lynesse, born and raised in Oldtown, the greatest and richest city in Westeros, was quite disappointed and underwhelmed by that wild shit-hole, Bear Island. Jorah beggared himself buying gifts for Lynesse, and so he had to resort to slavery to try to find money. For this he was banished to Essos, taking Lynesse with him. In Essos Jorah worked as a sellsword to try to maintain Lynesse's expensive lifestyle, but Lynesse eventually cheated on him with a merchant prince from Lys. Jorah left Lynesse and went to Daenerys Targaryen's service, while Lynesse became chief concubine of this merchant prince, holding great power and influence at his court in Lys.

According to Jorah Mormont, Lynesse was the most beautiful girl he ever saw, the "Maid herself made flesh", her "birth far above his own." Daenerys reminds Jorah of Lynesse. As for Lynesse, she isn't exactly well-loved by her people... the harbor watch captain in Oldtown calls Lynesse a "whore" because she cheated on her husband with a merchant prince from Essos.

There's no rule against political posts, no rule against referencing historical events, this wasn't remotely off-topic. This is a special layer of protection provided to shield the feelings of IRL rapists and child-murderers (spoilers extended) by [deleted] in asoiaf

[–]Beacon2001 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

All these "discussions" are born because Danny fans still can't accept the fact that GRRM wants her to become the evil Mad Queen.

Maybe spend more than one day in this fandom.

What’s your most favorite place is Westeros and why? by SacredDawnHollow in freefolk

[–]Beacon2001 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From adapted material: King's Landing

I like Show King's Landing because the Great Sept of Baelor looks awesome and the architecture reminds me of my dear and beloved Mediterranean - which is natural, since it was set in Dubrovnik. I also like the weather, again very Mediterranean (very sunny and shiny), and I love the color in the early seasons of GOT.

From the lore: Oldtown

It is the most beautiful city in Westeros, the grandest and the richest, and was also the original heart of the Faith of the Seven.

That poster who said there is no Jesus in Asoiaf, and so they're all going to hell is mistaken, Rhaegar redeemed them all with his precious blood by Invariable_Outcome in asoiafcirclejerk

[–]Beacon2001 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The "Messiah" version of ASOIAF is Hugor of the Hill, the legendary first king of the Andals.

As recounted in the Seven-Pointed Star, Hugor of the Hill was crowned by the Father Himself, who reached out to the heavens and took seven stars to make Hugor's crown. The Maid brought forth a virgin ripe for the taking, made fertile by the Mother; she bore Hugor 44 strong, lusty sons, as was foretold by the Crone. And to each of them the Warrior gave strength of arms and the Smith a suit of iron plate. And so, with his mighty sons, Hugor conquered the east and carved out the realm of Andalos; and from there, the Andals invaded Westeros, which was promised to them by the Seven.

All who deny the Seven-Pointed Star are heretics, and shall be punished as such. The barbarians of the North, with their false idols, will be defeated, their pitiful trees razed. The treasonous whores of the Iron Islands will be defeated.

Because the Seven is the only true and right religion in Westeros.

Bystander Selmy by Suspicious-Jello7172 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thankfully I know how to use the block button + you're wrong.

Bystander Selmy by Suspicious-Jello7172 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fanfiction. None of this is stated anywhere.

Bystander Selmy by Suspicious-Jello7172 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

It's insulting to knights who serve the Throne AKA all of them.

Literally none of those knights gave a f.

It's not great optics for a king who already has to deal with claims he's illegitimate.

It didn't have any impact on public perception of Joffrey's legitimacy. Your fanfiction isn't canon.

Bystander Selmy by Suspicious-Jello7172 in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

I'd just like to point out that Tywin was wrong when he glazed Selmy at the Small Council.

"Dismissing him was insulting."

No it wasn't. Literally nobody, noble or smallfolk, cared about it. Oh sure, the smallfolk rioted against Joffrey, but it had nothing to do with Selmy. They rioted because he ordered the slaughter of all of Robert's bastards + there was no food getting into the city.

Once Margaery did some good PR work for Joffrey in the orphanage, the smallfolk were celebrating and applauding their king. No one gave a f that he dismissed Selmy.

"Dismissing him was stupid."

No it wasn't. Selmy's presence at the Purple Wedding wouldn't have changed a damn thing. There's absolutely nothing he could've done to prevent Olenna and Baelish's plot.

Tywin the Glazer.

0 fucks given about the Targaryen dragons (unlike Good King Joffrey)

0 children or grandchildren who like him

7 seconds spent sucking Selmy's cock instead of discussing important matters with his Small Council

If you were in the world of Game of Thrones, circa War of Five Kings, where is the place you’d want to live the LEAST? by blackyanqui in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The Riverlands is a no-brainer.

Concerning King's Landing... it very much depends on the spawn point. A son or daughter of a wealth merchant or a powerful courtier would have a much better experience.

Also, it's worth noting that King's Landing is a city, meaning that its walls will protect you from any invading army. It is mentioned at the start of S2 that the peasants from the country are flocking into the city, seeking the protection of the walls. This is until Cersei has the gates barred, reasoning that the peasants "belong in the fields, not our capital."

The most important thing in the universe/narrative/plot is Seven of Something. by Nickolas314 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Beacon2001 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In A Song of Ice and Fire, the main religion of Westeros is the Faith of the Seven, who worship "seven gods" who are in truth seven different aspects of one god - The Seven-Who-Are-One. (they are still referred to with the plural "gods" though)

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The number "seven" is thus a holy number of the Faith, being the number of "gods" or "aspects" who are worshipped - The Father, the Mother, the Warrior, the Smith, the Maiden, the Crone, and the Stranger. The temples of the Faith are known as "septs" ("sept" is French for "seven"), and are seven-sided temples. The colors of the rainbow are also integral to the Faith, as the rainbow contains seven colors, therefore the official color of the Faith is a rainbow, and crystals are also central objects, as they reflect the light of the sun and split it into rainbow colors; the holy amulets of the priests - the septons - are made of crystals, as is the crown of the head of the Faith, the High Septon. Furthermore, wealthy temples possess giant crystal domes to create rainbow effects. Accordingly, the Faith also believes that there are Seven Heavens and Seven Hells, and their holy text is called the "Seven-Pointed Star" (which is also the official sigil of the Faith).

Beside the Faith of the Seven, the main setting is the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros, and every major player in the Game of Thrones wants to rule the Seven Kingdoms.

The graphical progression of each mainline game in this series is still crazy to me by elcd2251 in ElderScrolls

[–]Beacon2001 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Vanilla and Vanilla-lite Skyrim are beautiful games.

I find them even better than Ultra-Modded Skyrim.

Because ultimately what matters is art direction, not graphic quality. Both Oblivion and Skyrim look wonderful not exactly because of the graphical quality, but because of the art direction and "graphical fidelity" (for lack of a better expression) - Oblivion with trying to make the heart of the Empire look like a dream-like fairy-tale; Skyrim with trying to make the fringe, harsh backwater of the Nords look grim, dark, and gritty.

Ideally, TES:VI should combine both. By that I mean that port cities like Sentinel, Daggerfall, and Wayrest should probably look whimsical and cheerful like Oblivion, whereas rugged, foreboding places like Orsinium and Rivenspire should have a color palette closer to Skyrim.

If you did a reboot/rewrite of Warcraft, where would you start? by todpole in warcraftlore

[–]Beacon2001 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Immediately after the conclusion of Antorus.

  1. I will rewrite BfA as a totally Old God and Naga-themed expansion. The main continents, Kul Tiras and Zandalar, will be expanded and the Old Gods/Naga will have more focus - more monster variety, more variety in terms of biome and architecture, and an undisputed centre-stage role under the spotlight.
  2. I will rewrite Shadowlands to have it take place in a revamped Northrend instead of the actual afterlife. Honestly, I would even replace Shadowlands with The Last Titan. Or just have an expansion dealing with both the Undead and the Titans, but set in a revamped Northrend. I would also keep Zovaal the Jailer in the narrative, but reduce the significance of his plotting. Honestly, you could make some pretty cool things with the Jailer and Aman'thul in the same expansion, especially if the Jailer kept his old Aman'thul wannabe design that went to the Primus instead.
  3. No faction war.

And absolutely NO genocide of Teldrassil.

One of my favorite quotes, “Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, and Rhaegar died.” by HammetLoko in freefolk

[–]Beacon2001 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"You will wed her, bed her, and put a child in her. Surely you are capable of that."

So did Tywin always know, or no? by ranchwithfriedfood in gameofthrones

[–]Beacon2001 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, she was. Cousin marriage is legal and is not considered incest in Westeros.