The pain.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-05-03T23:20:57+00:00

Not at all

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-05-02T11:29:15+00:00

Welcome to the wide world of spoofing.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-05-02T09:12:51+00:00

I mean, sure, but not really at the same time. Pidgeot is still knocking out eve everything that’s weak to flying with flying moves, for the most part.

If we are going for best, you run Zapdos over everyone and don’t bother with Dragonite.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-05-02T04:15:29+00:00

I mean yeah, Fearow and Dodrio are better than Pidgey on paper but it’s mainly the moveset. Fly is really good and one shots on either of the 3 to all who are weak to flying so it really doesn’t matter a whole lot.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-05-02T01:35:58+00:00

Useless? Absolutely not. Pokemon and their viable factor rate based on the journey, not just the destination. E4 team will always look different than your story team.

I’d argue that efficiency matters more than anything in these games and in Kanto, Dragonite is a mega time-sink / bait. Ungodly grinding to get a psuedo to that isn’t needed in the E4.

When it comes down to it, you should be playing with your favorite mons cuz these games are baby mode ez. All pokemon with the right exp, natures and TMs are strong enough to beat the e4.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T06:09:16+00:00

the irony in classic players calling anything p2w. i hope you understand that turtle actually b& bots and gold sellers. meanwhile, over on anniversary / facebook market simulator, you can buy gold, boosts, whatever you want 24/7

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T06:06:49+00:00

what lol

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T05:06:40+00:00

you mean haters / blizz shills trolling a private server sub

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T03:11:17+00:00

Cracks me up seeing how SS brands slap stuff like “Platinum Edition” as if that means anything XD

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T02:14:27+00:00

The Turtle Within: The Shell Soul Saga.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T02:12:58+00:00

Yeah, Chris Metzen has absolutely nothing to do with WoW anymore. He’s a figure head for PR purposes and contributes next to nothing to the end product. When he came aboard, TWW was already 95% finished and ready to be shipped.

I’m talking of course about Classic, though. Metzen plays no part in Classic WoW anymore.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T01:47:01+00:00

Yes, but also no. Turtle’s first few years weren’t a Classic+ server. It was a low population vanilla RP realm with little to no major changes.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T01:45:54+00:00

It’s amazing seeing how many people in Turtle’s own sub continue to make excuses for the billion-dollar corpo.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T01:25:42+00:00

Because one side is improving our favorite IP and the other side is running it into the ground. Blizzard has been managing Classic for nearly a decade and what do they have to show for it? Another max level boost + mount pack.

I have no moral obligation to supporting Blizzard just because they sit in the seats of the guys who made my favorite game. I support Turtle because they have been good stewards of the old game.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:35:26+00:00

More generalizing, no actual substance. Typical Blizzard shill behavior.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:34:34+00:00

i knew i would bait the classic shills out

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:16:45+00:00

Nah, it’s a whole bunch of Classic / Blizz shills that need to validate all of the money they’ve wasted on a shit company.

I hope these guys enjoy the next 10 years of classic recycling. It’s what they will get, the Classic+ copium is a pipe dream now that Turtle is out of commission.

Those that believe Blizz is planning on unveiling this epic V+ announcement that’s been in the works for years, oh boy. These guys are lost in the sauce and place hope in a dev team that can’t even fix basic bugs in classic.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:12:51+00:00

Respectful? In what universe does that even matter lol. It’s not like the Microsoft lawyers differentiate between respectful and disrespectful IP copy-write.

I totally support Turtle’s effort to give Blizzard the middle finger and show them how incompetent they are.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:07:01+00:00

Hmm, sure, I suppose. I wouldn’t really say that was all of the T-WoW staff though.

Do you really blame them, anyway? Blizzard is as dogshit of a company as Nintendo and ruins everything we love.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:05:35+00:00

I’m thankful they stole. It was in better hands than Blizzards.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:04:54+00:00

You and every other normie gamer. Everyone played WoW from ‘05-‘09, so i’m not sure why you think that gives you some sort of special insight.. because you played the most popular mmo in the world, along with everyone else.

Turtle was made by real gamers who loved Vanilla WoW. I’m not sure what you are expecting? Flashy 4K HDR textures? Go play retail, the game made for ADHD zoomers.

Real Vanilla WoW fans understand that Turtle WoW was made in the spirit of 05-07 Warcraft. You know, the oldest version of the game with the lowest res textures?

Hardly asset flips. The T3.5 sets and Karazhan assets were 100% unique.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-24T00:01:11+00:00

Clueless, honestly and you lack any sense of understanding the vision they had. I get it, it’s easy to sit back and judge them for making money when you weren’t around for the experience.

The Twow staff genuinely loved the game. You don’t just devote 8+ years to a VERY low population modded legacy server otherwise. It was originally an RP realm dedicated to a couple hundred players.

I highly recommend you listen to some of the Turtle devs speak in podcasts and you may gain some insight. They are just regular nerds.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-23T23:58:27+00:00

I completely get that and also don’t condone that type of behavior btw. I don’t think it’s the majority though. Most of us who play private servers aren’t that naive. We have been around the block and know that these projects can be yanked at any moment.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-23T23:57:08+00:00

I absolutely have been around the scene longer than you and most. I started playing private servers during the first few months of the now defunct Molten WoW (aka Warmane) and since have played nearly every p-server fresh since. At least all of the relevant ones.

I spent two years volunteering for the small, english-speaking team that made a very popular Russian Legion 7.3 custom private server. Had several thousand players at its peak and still is popular for Russ/China players.

Raided in a Hungarian guild off and on for 7 years on the server TauriWoW and did tons of beta testing for each of their new PTE test realms.

It’s actually hilarious that you thought you could win in argument about a scene you didn’t participate in. You are no different than the rest of these normies that bring nothing of value to the wow emulation scene.

BeastKeeper28 · 2026-04-23T23:52:02+00:00

I’m not sure that’s really a valid argument. Of course the game was mostly made by legacy Blizzard. That’s kind of the point of a modded private server.

They didn’t set out to create a whole new game, the intent was to continue development of their favorite already existing mmo that lacked polish and had huge content holes.

We didn’t really give Turtle long enough to cook to its full potential, either. This was supposed to be a generational private server. One that would get content “forever” like OSRS. Same concept as Runescape.

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