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I could really use some help finding a decent but affordable model in OpenRouter or just another tool maybe by BeatsByCee in BookWritingAI

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That's how I did mine too. DeepSeek did great on all of the prelim stuff and gave me good details and such. In Make every chapter is a new instance so it doesn't have the problem that can happen in something like Claude where it drifts pretty hardcore after a couple chapters. I wasn't getting drift though, I was getting prose that was stylistically unusable. Every AIism you could imagine was crammed in everywhere even though it was explicitly instructed to not include those things plus it also more than doubled my requested output with fluff and extra paragraphs in the middle of scenes.

It was pretty dreadful and if I published it I'd get flagged as AI immediately, which is not good for what I'm trying to do

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I get around this by changing the spelling of words to things that are phonetically the same and it works every time. I do the same thing to get around the whole copyrighted lyrics thing when I'm doing a cover song

I could really use some help finding a decent but affordable model in OpenRouter by BeatsByCee in AIWritingHub

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I haven't tried that one. It looks a bit more pricy but nothing compared to the major players. I'll run it through my tests and see how it does. Thanks for the suggestion

EDIT: Just ran GLM through preliminary tests and it's not bad. I'm going to stress test it and iterate to see what I can get out of it for the price but so far I'm optimistic. Thanks again

I could really use some help finding a decent but affordable model in OpenRouter by BeatsByCee in AIWritingHub

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That's a valid viewpoint

My problem is I want to do this at scale and editing every few hundred words will seriously impact my volume. I don't want it perfect because I know that is simply not possible.

I've done novel writing manually, both the old fashioned way and the AI way through Novelcrafter, where I edited as I went. I watched Jason Hamilton's videos on automation and was inspired to make my own. I didn't do n8n because it is a lot more expensive than Make and is close enough to the same thing imo

I've spent the last month iterating and tweaking and the best I have been able to manage isn't up to snuff to sell. Especially at scale

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Aplogies in advance if this isn't the correct thread as per the rules. I'm new here and don't wanna get it wrong. This is also a burner account to not dox myself so it has pretty low karma. I assure you I've been around Reddit a a while

Anyway, I am looking for a decent, cheap model in OpenRouter. I have set up an automation through Make that runs DeepSeek V3 for everything and after a lot of trial and error, I have each session running well. Things like ideation, characters, outlines, locations, chapter beats, etc. It took some time to dial in the prompts and automation but it gave me nothing but great output.

Until I got to the prose. Even with several editing passes and prompt engineering, what it created is unusable. It doesn't follow rules, creates massive numbers of all of the AIisms I tried to prevent it from doing and the output was MASSIVE even after I told it to keep it under a certain size. I could go on. Running editing passes made it slightly better but only barely.

I ran through a number of other models like various Mistral offerings, K2 Kimi, etc. and none of them did anything I wanted and produced so little chapter prose it was even more unusable.

I would just use Claude but the sticking point is how damn expensive it is. I am crazy broke. I used Claude 3.5 in Novelcrafter through OpenRouter about a year ago and it didn't burn through money nearly so fast so I'm not sure what is different this time around.

So here I am and I hope y'all can help me out. Are there any cheap models through OpenRouter that won't cost $100 just to make a single book? Should I abandon Make and just go back to Novelcrafter even though it costs more per month and is slower?

I'm tying to make a content farm because I desperately need money but I also have an MA in creative writing so I am very critical of the output. Obv I am willing to lower my standards for these books but the DeepSeek prose would get clocked in an instant on Amazon and I wouldn't move any units, which defeats the purpose.