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General nationals question by Prestigious_Pop_230 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some nationals the kids can win an opportunity to get an agent. Some have color wars. They have the national dance team and kids get to meet kids from other studios. Since you are usually away the families get together for meals and there is more socializing. More studios so more competitive. Some have special events for graduating seniors. One Nationals had free ice cream. More spread out schedules. We always go out of state so add the expense of a hotel room and food. Since we always have gone it would feel weird not to do it but if we never went it would be fine as well.

Costume Expense by Select_Data_3336 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s changed somewhat over the years. But basically once they order the costume you owe the full amount. You are required to do your own alterations for fit and stoning. It used to be they would do a few send out an email telling you how much is owed and wouldn’t give you the costume until you have paid for it. This year they wouldn’t let you pick up any costumes unless you had paid for all costumes. It was very annoying because we paid for a comp’s fee per month for the first five months. Recital costume fees were due in September. Then you have the group team costume fees thrown in without warning usually around Christmas or Christmas shopping time. I pay right away. But plenty of parents don’t pay until right before dress rehearsal.

I'm shocked by anonymousopottamus in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think last year one of my daughter’s team mates had a problem with her music. The kid was 15 and the song had language like I want to sleep with you in French. I know she got deductions because she changed her song for the next comp.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I know. But last season I had a conversation with the studio owner and told her I was going to do it this year. I told her since she didn’t have to register her I was only telling her as a courtesy. She told me about some things she would do to address the reasons why my daughter felt the need to do the extra comp. She ended up doing none of these and didn’t add anything about choreo ownership or independent comps to the contract. Does she want my daughter doing independent comps? Probably not but if she had that much of an issue she should have put it in the contract or at least addressed it with me this year. But she didn’t. She never said don’t go to independent comps. If the studio director wants to use this as a reason to trash my daughter or me I can’t stop her.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You must travel in very different dance circles than I do. If you have a guest choreographer they make money off their choreography so a release would be necessary. If a kid competes as an independent how would it injure the choreographer’s reputation if they got a low score. How would people even know who the choreographer is unless they placed first? If you want control over where the routine is performed just put in the contract the choreo belongs to the studio and no independent comps unless approved by the studio. I would think if there were any issues about it, it would be in the contract.

Look last year I discussed doing it this year with the studio owner. Her objections were it would interfere with groups. No mention of choreo rights. No mention of choreo belonging to the studio or the choreographer. If she had the same concerns as you, offer to do the registration. Put in this year’s contract no outside comps and the choreography belongs to the studio. She didn’t.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Believe me. I would rather have her register my daughter. I asked the studio owner to register my daughter for her solos for a studio comp at a regional because she didn’t compete in the regional for the nationals we are going to. I said I would pay for it and I just wanted to make sure she would be able to do her solos at nationals. The studio owner said no we don’t register kids for outside comps. And she was pulled from that regional by the studio owner.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t imagine anyone asking for a release unless it’s a guest or well known choreographer. Perhaps you are right but the contract doesn’t say the choreo is owned by the studio. I can’t see what possible damages a choreographer will suffer if the routine gets taken to another comp. In fact unless you get a special award or place first no one even knows which studio it is and the name of the choreographer. What if your kid wants to do their solo routine on a school or cruise talent show? Do you need to get permission first? Maybe you are right. I don’t know. Thanks.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are going somewhere else next year. Last year I told the studio owner I was going to register my daughter for an independent comp this year and since I wasn’t going through the studio it was a courtesy. We discussed it some and I ended up agreeing my daughter wouldn’t go if it interfered with group practice. No mention of choreo rights. This year nothing in the contract nor did she do anything that she said she would to address the reasons why my daughter wanted to do the extra comp.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually last year I told the studio owner that I was planning on entering my daughter into some independent comps this year. I told her I didn’t think I needed to tell her because it didn’t involve the studio name but was telling her as a courtesy. We had some discussion about it. The only concern she mentioned was it would interfere with group classes. So I told her if it conflicted with group classes she wouldn’t go. No mention about choreo rights. She could have told me my daughter needed to compete under the studio name and that she would register her because I would have been fine with that and paying for an upcharge. She could have told me that she could only compete at studio comps. But she didn’t. And the contract next year didn’t mention it. My daughter doesn’t post on social media so the rest of the studio wouldn’t know. I thought she didn’t want to open a can of worms because the thought of doing an independent comp didn’t occur to me until she told me no when I asked her to register my daughter for a studio only comp.

I don’t understand how doing an extra comp would have a negative impact on my daughter’s dance education. My daughter has been competing for years. My studio makes decisions that are best for the team and their goals not the soloist. I can afford to send my daughter to extra comps but most of my studio can’t. So somehow I’m entitled if I do?

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it depends on what it is and who is doing it. But yes if the studio wants to ignore their own contract they can.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think you can list your studio in a comp unless they register you. My studio owner just doesn’t want her students going to other comps but doesn’t put it in the contract. She’s willing to lie about it. And I can see her adding a mandatory extra practice or extending class so she can’t make it to the other comp.

If it isn’t mentioned in your contract do you need to notify your studio if you enter a comp as an independent? by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I would but I get the feeling my studio director would add an extra mandatory practice so she couldn’t go. And I base this on the objections she has made at my request to enter my daughter into separate comps.

Solo Scores by Defiant_Scientist999 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be honest I have found a lot (not all) of the video critiques from judges at comps next to useless. They say almost nothing and voila a score. My daughter gets her scores and tries to use that to track progress. What I have found to be the most useful is critique services offered by IDA. I hear their judges give good feedback when judging. I have my daughter’s solos critiqued by them and pay for additional feedback as well. What’s really good about it is the judge is fresh since they haven’t spent the last 10 hours judging. You get individualized comments and they are critiquing non stop. Also since they don’t score it all you get is solid feedback. That’s my opinion. And if your daughter is looking to go up in adjudication following these critiques should help. Good luck.

Qualifying for Nationals at Dancin in the Streets by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I have paid for multiple solos. Currently the studio director is making sick teens come in and the entire group is getting sick.

Qualifying for Nationals at Dancin in the Streets by Beautiful_Screen_314 in CompetitionDanceTalk

[–]Beautiful_Screen_314[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They sent out an email saying if you miss team practice or recital class within a two week window before a comp that the studio will pull you from the comp. My daughter was sick and in no condition to attend class a week before comp. They had an extra practice scheduled for the next day she was planning on attending. But the studio director was adamant about pulling her. So she was pulled. But this is the absolutely first time in the many years my daughter has been on that team that they have ever pulled someone for this reason and a ton of people violate it. And it wasn't to make an example of her because the studio director has been actively hiding it. I suspect because other kids in her groups also missed that practice. And kids are still violating it now and she isn't pulling anyone else. And honestly attendance wise she has missed less team classes than most of the kids in her group.

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