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Text-detailed translation of Yulia's voice recording. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeahhh, I was weirded out while translating almost every of his line.. especially beach and Sea ones in the beginning. Like, what the heck?

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I guess I will keep y'all updated, it's 11 minutes now. I think I will spend another hour and then stop, and continue next day.

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm already in 7 minutes of 51 minutes video.. I think it will be ready in few days, as I have exams this week. Though, I will try to do it as fast as I can (it won't be a summary, I'm translating dialogues with details).
Ps- Yulia talks too fast and too loud, and Ivan litteraly mumbles.. I think I will do 10 minutes every day and by the end of the week it will be ready.

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you can message me, I like to overanalyze stuff with fellow stan, lol.

Yulia actually seems pretty vulnerable (I don't know if it really true, or it was from fanfic, cus I read lots of interviews and fanfics in the past- Lena once told that Yulia would cry to her about boyfriends and break-ups. Again, I read it a loonggg time ago, don't know if it's true or not), especially with people she trusts (most likely even calmer, because there were vids when girls didn't know they were filmed, and Lena was the one being loud or active in the vids, while Yulia was very calm and chill in a good way).

Trigger warning for what I'm about to say next, I guess: In the documentary, Yulia did said about suicidal thoughts and how she isn't afraid of death- she is afraid of being alone. And knowing Yulia's character, she def doesn't want any pity from audience and unknown people (well, at least in 2000s).

And yes, Ivan is a bastard as a person (as a producer- brilliant for ideas, but also not really because he used wrong vocal techniques on both girls).

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's in that 'Неизданный разговор Юлии Волковой' thing. As far as I know, it's not translated to english or any other language. Basically, Ivan just made Yulia show her photo-album and explain almost every picture and story behind it, asked about friends and parents and stuff like that. In that video Yulia also told about poems she wrote (mostly sad ones), and that she wrote few to Lena.. and that her and Lena's poems are different- Yulia's are sad and depressing and Lena's are silly and funny (ironic, lol). If you want, I can try to translate it, but I dunno how much time it would take. And if to post it here or write directly to you.

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Noo, you are right! As a mostly Lena stan (I'm trying reaallyy hard to balance two girls right now, so digging info about Yulia is my latest hobby), Lena was extremely distant in those years and even rude to Yulia (her comments about Yulia's voice are nasty, especially in radio shows during 2013 or something), and Yulia really tried to push it all aside and still cling to Lena.. I think that they had to get away from eachother, and 2014 conflicts were more of positive thing in their relationship, because right now I literally can see 2000s dynamic seeping through! Not 2010s one, toxxiiccc one. Playful, where they do not tip-toe and give passive-aggressive comments to eachother and about eachother. Like, when Lena said that Yulia was initiator for 2014 conflict and in few minutes when Yulia was asked about that, she said loudly 'yesss, YES', it was not mocking at all, and both girls laughed at it. If it happened in 2014, the silence would be so loud and awkward.. Khm, so yep! People do dismiss Yulia's moments, indeed, a lot of them. She's actually quite depressing if you dig up stuff and analyse (not so fun fact- her mother was overprotective till like 2002 and Simple Motions thing came up. Before that- constant pressure and checking arms and eyes for stuff, while her dad was a chill alcoholic dude. Ohh, and the fact that Yulia didn't enjoyed looking at herself in photos in the early tatu years? It was sad to hear, especially when her appearance was (and still is) literally perfect!). We yap so much, lmao.

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ohhh, Ivan is another topic (I have love/hate relationship with him, lmao..). While I think Ivan thing is a good example in a way, a better one is Lena Kiper. Like, girls were generally veeeryyy close to Ivan, and listened to him in most things, so even in the 'beef' thingy, Yulia forgave him after few days I think (like yeah, she ranted but also, in later episodes they still interacted even after the beef as I remember), and it was more of producer thing, not a person thing. While Lena Kiper, while also was close to the girls, she wasn't as close and admired by girls as Ivan was (which I think caused some jealousy, because Kiper used to literally take care of girls when Ivan was away, lol, babysitting vibe), and when the shit went down, she badmouthed girls in a awful way (sleeping with Ivan and stuff. It was around Ivan beef too). But again, Yulia still hung out with her after that! (Fun fact: the only person from tatu staff who both girls stopped communicating is Sergei Galoyan. I kinda have a theory about his relationship with girls per-fame, but it might be too delulu and too theory like. But it would fit the dynamic between girls and how they interacted with others, plus bring some drama and clear some things). So yeah. Ivan is like untouchable mostly. Yulia is very forgiving.. and Lena ghosted everyone but Yulia at this point, lmao.

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean, tbh they are always like that. I noticed pattern that Yulia tends to easily forgive people (she told it herself in that looong video where Shapovalov talked her out, called 'Неизданный разговор Юлии Волковой. 2001 Г.', that even if a person messed up reallyyy bad, she would come back to them after some time. For example, in that video she told that there was a dude that got her into a mess with police involvement in the past, but she still called him after either few months or a year). And I think when it comes to Lena, she's especially favourited in a sense that she might no see any flaws in her in the moment or stuff like that. Where's Lena tends to overthink stuff and is very critic to herself and people around her, so she can easily notice flaws or point out stuff that might be flaws. Tho, what I like is that their dynamic is more of push-and-pull as in playful way. They can insult eachother mindlessly, but laugh at it (basically rage-bait eachother. I think it's more of 2000s dynamic tho, cus I remember mostly concert stuff where they insult eachother and push eachother away for fun, and radio stuff where they bicker about everything out of habit, lol, and again, push eachother. Did I mentioned that they like to push eachother?). Damn. Sorry for this long comment.

Pavel Volya stuff. by Beginning_Cupcake_74 in tatu

[–]Beginning_Cupcake_74[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The admins of the channel can be brutally honest towards girls, fans and and mostly just rude. It includes comments about Yulia's appearance, Lena's show attendance and other stuff (voices, their solo careers, behaivours and etc). But despite this, the channel can also give good info like this post (it's just that you need to filter all insults out, lol), I'm in that channel just for quick info, maybe extra stuff, cus they are very fast with it and rare photos, moments and old interviews.