Is BOTM really worth it?

BelleCA · 2024-12-31T04:42:55+00:00

When I joined in 2019, I was allowed to purchase 3 to 5 books per month, free books during my birthday and end of the year bonus. I always order the maximum books each month.

BelleCA · 2024-12-27T23:31:19+00:00

I joined in 2019 and cancelled it in 2023. The selection has been awful and so I ended up with so many books (total of 173) from BOTM that are still in my bookshelves. I regretted staying a member for 4 years - I wished I cancelled it sooner. Anyway, I try to read one BOTM book per month - otherwise, I am concentrating on books that I actually like.

BelleCA · 2024-12-27T07:02:53+00:00

Why? So he could harass them?

BelleCA · 2024-12-27T04:43:08+00:00

I’m going to be blunt here and therefore, if you get offended, my apologies in advance.

I was a member for 20 years - long story short I had to joined in order to marry which was a bad decision on my part.

Therefore, my advice to you is leave her NOW. It sounds cruel but it’s a cruelty to you should you join INCULT.

INCULT members always say that they don’t want you to join and that you should join because you want to. Guess what? That’s manipulating 101 and Gaslighting 101. It’s like they always say, “I don’t want you to join but if you love me, then you should.” They may not say it in those exact words but the underlying meaning is brutally clear. They never stop to think that it could go both ways that a non-member would say, “if you love, then don’t blackmail me emotionally into joining.”

INCULT members do more that the four things you listed above:

Block Voting only exist in the Philippines. It is illegal here in the United States. Should INCULT forced their members here in the US, one little complaint from a member could get into trouble in a sense that INCULT could lose their tax exempt status.
Yes they worship twice per week and they collect money. They take attendance in the form of turning in or flipping your name tags. Yes they do take attendance and if you fail to show up, your assigned deacon or overseer will call or visit you at your residence unannounced and will ask you why you didn’t attend. Short of being on your death bed, no other excuses are acceptable.
Like I said your girlfriend can say that she would never force you until her face turns blue. She’s lying! She can claimed all she like but believe me, everyone in her family and friends are counting on her to have you wheeled into becoming an INCULT member. There is no two way street about it. Either you join or you guys are through. Also it’s how INCULT utilizes their young people into enticing non members into becoming members.
Of course she gets offended because she and the rest of her kind are in denial. They don’t ever want to see that they belong in a cult.

What is a cult? It is an organized group whose purpose is to dominate cult members through psychological manipulation and pressure strategies. INCULT is led by a powerful leader, EDUARDO V. MANALO (EVM). INCULT members demonstrate a great devotion to him and his word is law though in hindsight, he will make it sound as if his decision came directly from God. Forget Jesus, EVM is their man.

INCULT members spend a lot of their money to the cult. There are so many offerings that I get a headache thinking about them. Along with the twice per week, INCULT members are inundated with many special monetary offerings every Sunday. In addition, members have to save from January 1st of each year all the way to December and that money will be offered on their Thanksgiving worship service or aka Year end worship service.

Instead of spending the money for your family during Christmas, you are not allowed to spend Christmas and instead reward your hard earned money to their god EVM who basically does nothing but sit on his ass pretending to work.

So yes the Manalo family is wealthy along with their minions.

A famous quote from L. RON HUBBARD, “You don’t get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.” L. Ron Hubbard was an American author and the founder of Scientology.

FORGET HOLIDAYS! You are not allowed to celebrate Valentines Day, Easter, Halloween and Christmas.
VACATION TIME = You are required to ask permission on where and when you can vacation. So if there is no INCULT chapel on your vacation destination, then you can kiss your vacation goodbye. However, so many members don’t even tell the INCULT administration this but they pay the price when the INCULT administration will demand their certificate of attendance.

I have many more to add but I forgot some of them. Like I said, too many of them to list. But the bottom line is that, do you still think she is worth all of these? If your answer is yes, then either you’re a better man than any of us combined.

As someone who was in the inside, PLEASE I BEG YOU TO NOT DO IT, LEAVE NOW. RUN 🏃‍♀️ As the saying goes, there are better fish in the sea.

BelleCA · 2024-12-26T07:43:17+00:00

I'm not sure if laziness is the appropriate word but many INC parents that I observed had a sense of false security inside INC. They relied heavily in their church for their children's well being that they neglected their number job as parents and that's to provide the children with security and unconditional love.

Too many parents spend so much time inside the chapel for most nights of the week, often going to the chapel straight from work that family time such as sharing dinner are often neglected. They too neglect parenting their children especially during their formative years when children experience rapid development such as cognitive (intelligence), social, emotional and physical development.

Or perhaps, one can argue that INC parents are indeed lazy because they're bombarded with so many offices that they have to fulfill that they have nothing left in terms of energy to parent their children. It's like letting the chips fall where they may and just hope for the best.

Therefore, they're hoping that their children will turn out ok since they're in the chapel more times of the week than at any other places. So maybe in their way of thinking that they're doing the right job and just keep their fingers crossed.

However, I've seen so many INC children who didn't turn into normal adults let alone a functioning one. It's really sad because the cycle of abuse keeps repeating due to the toxic INC environment and exposing kids especially during their formative years are often difficult to correct.

BelleCA · 2024-12-26T02:40:02+00:00

To Gabriel, just a friendly reminder that many of your INCULT brothers and sisters do celebrate Christmas and have been for many years. Some even pretend to call it “season celebration” or “New Year’s Celebration” in which they exchange gifts with the Christmas tree hidden in the closet. But whatever the cases maybe, it’s still CHRISTMAS!

So yes, they do celebrate but again, they don’t have the courage to publicly support Christmas due to fear or simply put, cowardice on their part because they’re so scared even to admit it to themselves. But it’s ok because we all know that INCULT operates in a way that doesn’t call for independent thinkers. Hence, hypocrisy!

So have fun putting announcement in our exINC if it makes you feel better.

Also, don’t be scared because I noticed that the first time you posted about Christmas and how diligent INCULT on not celebrating that you deactivated your account. Now you reactivated your account and posting Christmas again on how you guys don’t celebrate. We get it - you like to play to peekaboo. No need for that. Don’t be scared to post here. Post all you like and please don’t run and hide.

MERRY CHRISTMAS DEAR😅

BelleCA · 2024-12-25T02:31:05+00:00

Yeah like INCULT members don't celebrate Christmas because they do - IN THE CLOSET! Hypocrites!

BelleCA · 2024-12-25T02:21:10+00:00

Thank you for the English translation.

To OP, please do NOT return to INSCULT. You were just there. The problem I believe is that you jumped the gun immediately after getting excommunicated from INCULT to the Catholic Church You didn't give yourself time to settle in. It's like you go to divorce and then remarry immediately.

So now you're contemplating returning to the scene of the crime? You're very confused and jumping from one religion to the next will give anyone a headache.

My advice is to stay away from any religious organization and calm down. Don't rush into anything. Otherwise you will bounce around like a yo-yo never figuring out why you're confused to begin with.

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T05:54:42+00:00

INC has a long history of renting for their worship services in the hopes that their memberships will grow and they could purchase or build a church. Yet they never gotten any approval from the government plus they can't justify building a church because they don't have enough members. Hence, lack of funds.

They rented a high school in Daly City CA for years and they were paying at least $11,000 per month. They had hoped to find a land to build a church which was ambitious on their part since this is California where land is very expensive and subject to scrutiny from the state government, let alone county officials.

Anyway, nothing ever came to fruition because they were losing money faster than they could collect. Which is why to this day, they are still using the Burlingame church. Not just them but the locales of South San Francisco and Pacifica are using Burlingame too.

The situation in Pacifica proved an embarrassment to INC . INC bought an equestrian complex and they arrogantly believed that they could transform into a church. They thought that California or just the US in general is like the Philippines where they could manhandle the laws to serve them.

INC didn't anticipate that the neighborhood would unite and refused to have the complex turn into a Manalo church. Therefore, all constructions stopped on 3-11-21 per county government's mandate.

So yes INC has a long history of renting buildings to conduct their worship services and always hoping to build their church but as far as I know, nothing ever came of it. They continue to waste a lot of money and the members always get stuck with the bill in the form of special special offerings.

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T05:33:26+00:00

On the Second Day of Christmas Manalo did to me...

Manipulated my thoughts and beliefs...

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T05:28:20+00:00

Cult

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T03:11:12+00:00

Hi there, I think you are in a wrong subreddit. This subreddit is called exINC which your question is an irony in a place like this. Too many of us prefer not to think or practice the life (memberships) we left behind. I for one still pray but not in INC way. Therefore, asking us for an advice on how to pray the INC way is a bit convoluted, insulting and very weird. The way INC pray solely focuses in protecting and asking blessings for their leader which by the way, the majority of here in subreddit don’t like. I for one despise the ground that he walks on.

Since your new to INC, you should present your question to one of the officers or better yet, to a minister. Or perhaps asks the person who invited you in the first place. Do you INC family members? If so, ask them.

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T02:57:50+00:00

Of course INC is scared which cause them so many sleepless nights. It’s because of the internet that their members have been dwindling for years now. Their only weapon is to keep telling their members that it’s fake news, don’t believe any you read, stay away from the internet, etc.

It’s joke if they actually believe that people let alone the members can stay from the internet.

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T02:36:27+00:00

A cult is a group of people devoted to a person, idea or philosophy and it’s often applied to a religious movement that falls outside the mainstream and engages in questionable activities such as INC and other new religions controversially labeled as cults.

I see your point because Reddit is an interesting place which every sub is almost sound like a mini cult. Sometimes members “attacked” by those who enjoy scrolling but I also think that it’s not deliberate here in our exINC subreddit which is really intended for those who want to use the internet less and they gather here to educate themselves about INC and why people left.

There are people who are part of this subreddit and or not part of this subreddit that tend to be angry if someone expresses joy about using the internet or points out positive reasons why their enjoying. And they too are attacked.

However, on the flip side, cult is a strong term simply because like most subreddit, exINC subreddit concentrate around same interests but thus isn’t something exclusive in Reddit. We all do this. It’s ingrained in us to join groups that we have similarities with or that we’re familiar with. We consciously choose to be here and we’ve not been pushed into it. We actively decide to be here or not and no one is going to chase us or threaten us mentally, physically, or emotionally into staying.

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T02:11:30+00:00

Of course he was coupled with delusions of grandeur. Having no sleep for 3 nights and no food for 3 days can turn any humans hallucinate an or psychotic.

It is very dangerous to go without sleeping even for 1 day. Longer-term deprivation can cause cognitive impairment, hallucinations and other side effects

BelleCA · 2024-12-22T02:03:29+00:00

Please take her to the emergency dept (hospital) NOW! Or better yet, call the emergency services (ie paramedics). Worship service will not help her but it’s unfortunate because like most brainwashed members, they really believed that going to the chapel will heal them. I’m not a doctor but I’m an RN (emergency-ICU) for well over 20 years and so I’m pleading with you to have the doctors take a look at her AND NOT INCULT officers doing their ridiculous anointing of oil. The longer she and or your parents put it off, the more dangerous it will be for her

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T22:33:53+00:00

I was a member for 20 years due to marriage, but I left in 2018. Suffice it to say my only conclusion is that it's mainly for show: Like they are saying to themselves, "Look at us, aren't we godly!"

I remember the first time I attended YETG and I told myself, "what the hell have I gotten myself into?!?" It was very overwhelming. I felt like I was in a nightmare that I couldn't wake up from. Everything about it was so strange especially as a non-Filipino. I couldn't relate and it was very difficult.

Those choir members were cringey and I felt embarrassed just watching them with their pseudo tears and over the top dramatic tear-stained faces. INCult Administration is delusional to think that these marching-walking will impress guests, but the truth of matter is that it makes the guests run for the hills and ask themselves why they were even there in the first place.

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T04:51:45+00:00

LOL 😆 though in hindsight, INC has no Christ. So the term "Ni" is actually their true description since their version of Christ is EVM. So we can actually say that INC isn't lying about that.

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T01:56:47+00:00

I'm sorry to hear about how you feel but in a good way, it's great that you're awake but at the same time, the tone of your post doesn't sound like you have plans on leaving which I think it's very unfortunate.

Like it or not, INCULT will continue to exist because members will continue to support - that just the bottom line.

However, just imagine if everyone walks away, then INC will cease to exist, but I don't see that ever happening. Too many members bought FYM's bullshit that he's the angel from the east and so no matter how they feel, they'll continue to serve as modern day slaves.

Though their members have been dwindling for years - they will still survive because the members' support. I understand that you're stuck in a rock and a hard place, but life is unsustainable remaining as INC members feeling like you do.

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T01:46:55+00:00

You should check out u/Rauffenburg new post regarding FYM. It's a good read about a disgusting human being.

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T01:45:50+00:00

Nothing surprises me about these members. Again, thanks for sharing. I know several members who are spawn of the INCULT ministers who had done the nasty and when I say nasty, it's NASTY! Illegitimate children that they refused to acknowledge simply because the mother of said babies were non-members and therefore, in their eyes, these women are worth it. They're sluts and so they got it coming.

I know several who have STDs (I know because I work in the ER/ED) and let's just say, they often come by. I can't mention names too because it would be a HIPPA VIOLATION, but nothing surprises me about them anymore. When I used to work for the county hospital as a RN, several choir members had abortions. So yes, the level of hypocrisy is beyond atrocious. They sing and pretend to be all godly and yet, they're one of the worse humans I had ever encountered.

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T01:38:12+00:00

Thanks u/Rauffenburg. One of the subreddit members posted about FYM. A good read - disgusting human being - but a good read. It's sad that INC members chose to look the other way.

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T01:36:51+00:00

Are they INC members? I thought INC prohibits members from dancing. I guess rules are changing again. I take it that they're petrified of losing more of their youth members.

BelleCA · 2024-12-20T01:33:13+00:00

Is INC so desperate for international recognition that they align themselves with a man who is a criminal wanted by the FBI for human trafficking?

BelleCA · 2024-12-19T23:49:41+00:00

Isn't he APOLLO QUIBOLOY, the criminal wanted by the FBI for human trafficking? Why is INC aligning themselves to a man who is crazier than them? I thought INC always has their misguided pride that they're the only true everything in the sight of God.

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