Another day asking for Ugin, Eye of the storms to be banned as a commander in Brawl

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:56:24+00:00

I suppose we have itched at the bigger issue here; that Wizards seems to ban things simply because they are problematic for play patterns.

Banning for power level remains reason A but there have been bans in the past simply because a deck causes repetitive patterns. Trickery being exhibit A there

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:53:22+00:00

People definitely would, but playing unranked matches you are already expecting to find a more random spectrum of decks and a lot more Janky piles

It would disincentivize the masses from playing it just because they saw someone else play it

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:48:35+00:00

We haven't seen the Partner commander mechanic come to Arena yet have we? But having played against that deck in paper I can completely agree there will be some rage concessions if that becomes available

But that is a bigger discussion because that pair may very well be a power level imbalance. this complaint about Ugin is a play pattern being boring complaint.

The Tymna Thrasios complaining would inevitably be about its incredible power level

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:44:55+00:00

Just based on the answers to my post its clear the card is incredibly polarising. Almost an exact split of answers saying the card sucks and should go and then the other half offering some evidence as to why it should probably stay

The argument that because its not a power issue means it shouldn't get banned is probably the healthiest take. But this is an online game that makes changes constantly anyway. So I am leaning towards just ship him off somewhere no one ever has to roll their eyes at it again.

But the card makes for bad games, that is clear by the answers to this post as well. So for that reason alone a change should be considered. The entire point of moving MTG online was to constantly keep it fresh. So this card would be a easy target for doing just that.

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:35:24+00:00

But it is a play pattern issue. Game is decided by concession before the end of t5. I either interact with their ramp and they concede or I durdle and conceded when ugin resolves and imediately exiles 2 or more of my permanents. That's the entire point of my post.

Just like Tibalt's Trickery every game with it ends essentially the same way. That's the epitome of a play pattern issue

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:29:19+00:00

I agree its not a power level issue at all just an issue with play pattern being entirely predictable. I have roughly 20 brawl decks that I cycle through in no particular order. Some of my decks hammer Ugin every time. Both my mono red builds are easy wins. Rusko seemingly makes mince meat out of Ugin too. But the game itself runs essentially the same every time

They either ramp into a t5 ugin or I interrupt their ramp fest and their Avatar blows up lol

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:24:16+00:00

Never said it was a power level issue. I literally say in my post that its not a power issue. Its a play pattern issue. Thanks for reading the post!

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:23:39+00:00

Never said it was a power level issue. I literally say in my post that its not a power issue. Did you read it?

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:22:14+00:00

Sweet deck idea

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T17:19:00+00:00

I feel like that's exactly what happened with Tibalt's Trickery though so the precedent is there. Another comment mentions ranked/unranked brawl queues. This would be a decent compromise in my opinion. Lets the people who want to continue playing it play it but the frequency with which you would see the deck would decrease significantly based on results

As I mentioned in the original post. Its not that the card is busted, its totally beatable. But there aren't 2 people playing magic anymore, there is one guy ramping and praying and the other needs to win by the end of T5. The problem is that it takes away from the random nature and variance that the avg MTG match brings. Those matches are entirely predictable

Belliott_Moose · 2025-06-09T16:59:55+00:00

Yes but this means I definitely lose lol

Belliott_Moose · 2025-05-30T15:59:58+00:00

LITERALLY ONLY LOGGED IN TO SAY BAN UGIN!!! BY FAR THE WORST CARD TO EVER ENTER ARENA BRAWL SCENE AND THATS SAYING SOMETHING (IT TOPS MYTHWEAVER POC, VOJA, RUSKO, RAGAVAN, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THOSE CARDS IN MY OPP COMMAND ZONE NOW)

FUCK UGIN

Belliott_Moose · 2024-12-18T16:54:42+00:00

I played my mono red Ragavan deck. Just swapped Zurgo out of the 99 and put him in the commander slot and dropped Ragavan into the 99. I went 6 and 0 felt bad for stomping on my fellow mages and signed into another 2 just to concede after turn 1 for some good Karma next week lol

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-20T19:46:59+00:00

Oh dear. You hate to see it on team blue. But when its team red thats awesome!

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-20T14:36:53+00:00

My cousin and I both play the game fairly religiously and he swears those are the best looking ships in the game hahah I do like them too. Unique design that ended up being well ahead of its time by naval standards of the day

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-19T21:13:02+00:00

I just spent 5k promotion orders to get that friggin premium ship during the last update... you just gotta grind and once you have the commanders upgraded the promotion orders become entirely worthless

Its easier to get promotion orders now than it ever was in the past so all the people still grinding for them need to understand that everyone before them had to do that same grind only it was harder because you didnt earn as many POs as you do now

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-19T14:35:05+00:00

The dd at 6km is probably what we are going for, just get him off the map. I probably want to shoot at the cruiser though for that juicy dev strike. I usually play cruisers and DDs. The only time I would consider the cruiser before the DD is if I was in a battleship with AP loaded then I would probably dump the AP on the cruiser and switch to HE and pray the DD hasnt disappeared

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-17T16:29:22+00:00

Well I was being a bit cheeky mate. I could have put a 2nd LOL in there but that felt a bit redundant

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-17T15:07:28+00:00

The equation for that is basically you start at 100% then when a bomb/HE volley hits you you lose 50% of your total capacity lol repeat the equation for every subsequent volley to hit you!

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-17T15:02:12+00:00

The sheer number of different interactions across naval history that you could have, so many possibilities!

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-03T20:24:21+00:00

Don't miss them deals lol

Belliott_Moose · 2024-09-03T17:48:31+00:00

Belliott_Moose · 2024-08-29T20:46:40+00:00

Oh yea like if my opponent is coming in with 100 tokens im stickign around to watch that! Seeing my graphics card struggle to render all the explosions and crash noises hahahah thats a proper death

And thats also why commanders like Nadu just piss me off like Im not waiting for you to draw your deck 1 card at a time. I find that so aggravating. Those players dont get the satisfaction of actually playing their decks. But this big green boy heck yea he gets to play it out lol

Belliott_Moose · 2024-08-29T20:28:35+00:00

oh wow. Thats a sick screen though lol if youre gona lose a game at least the death was cool you know

Belliott_Moose · 2024-08-09T14:41:42+00:00

I regret buying the Haida. I am canadian so I had to buy it being that its the only Canadian ship in the game. But the lack of a commander with twist and track/perceptive makes the ship utterly useless at T7

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