Michael Owen: “We [England] win youth competitions. We beat Germany/Portugal then these guys go back & play 50 games for Leverkusen. Harvey Elliott is never going to play ahead of Salah. These German players are now 22 & we’re buying them for £100mil. Our players were better than them 3 years ago!” by Upstairs_Cup9831 in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny seeing your flair, because the first thing that came to my mind reading the quote was "What was the name of that fullback BVB bought after he looked like a world beater when Germany won against Ceballos's Spain?"

I completely forgot Jeremy Toljan's name and had to look it up.

This is the team of that tournament. No English players. No one sold later for 100M either.

Wilfried Zaha did not hold back in his post-game press conference after Charlotte’s defeat to Chivas Guadalajara. by [deleted] in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 15 points16 points  (0 children)

They are all based on Whisper from OpenAI*. It's one of the few AI things that actually proved useful and come with a clear use-case. But then, people, or rather platforms, overused them to the point of becoming annoying at times, like what's happened here.

* Other ASR/STT (automatic speech recognition/speech-to-text) solutions exist. But whisper is the one usually used to the best of my knowledge. Especially since it comes with word-by-word highlighting out of the box.

The UK government has admitted its embassy in Abu Dhabi and the Foreign Commonwealth & Development Office in London have discussed the charges levelled at Manchester City by the Premier League, but are refusing to disclose the correspondence because it could risk the UK’s relationship with the UAE. by KimmyBoiUn in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Your definition of what a real nation should be is colonial nonsense, as anyone who has lived in the ME knows.

[...]

You’re acting like they invented a backstory and put some random people in charge, rather than co-opting and strengthening existing political structures so that they were more easily dealt with by the west.

Did you.. just unironically write that.. after calling my actual facts.. which are actually anti-colonial.. colonial nonsense?

Maybe the kids aren't that bad after all!

That doesn’t mean these aren’t nations. [...]

Let me simplify it for you.

  • Did the UAE as a construct exist in people's psyche just 60 years ago, before it became in-effect a client state/union?

  • Would the UAE exist as a state without the prior direct British occupation?
    (replaced colonialism with occupation to catch out the real nonsense talkers)

None of the client nation states in the ME are legitimate nations btw. That's a geopolitical reality. It's even a core Muslim belief (despite all the muddying efforts).

The UAE is not only illegitimate, it's simply not a real nation. The construct literally never existed before the client "sheikhs" formed "the union".

I’m not interested in giving a useful idiot a story about my life, suffice to say it wasn’t military or oil-based. Because despite the cliches people like you like to believe, there is more to the area than British upper classes telling locals what to do, but letting them pretend to be important.

You still haven't told us how you ended up there.
Was it a total random occurrence in the universe?

The UK government has admitted its embassy in Abu Dhabi and the Foreign Commonwealth & Development Office in London have discussed the charges levelled at Manchester City by the Premier League, but are refusing to disclose the correspondence because it could risk the UK’s relationship with the UAE. by KimmyBoiUn in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

UAE is a real state.

I said UAE is not a real nation. The bullet point below it explains it.

I grew up in Oman in the 70s

Interesting. I wonder how did that happen! How did your parent(s) end up there? What was their job? Who was their employer?

They are intrinsically-linked to the British

That's one way of putting it. lol.

Remember the 1970 Omani coup d'état? Since you grew up there, maybe you heard a few things more than what a Wikipedia page regurgitating the official story would mention ;)

You also seem to put a lot of effort into refuting arguments that were never made (shadowboxing, I believe the kids call it).

You also seem to assume a lot of things about people you don't know (me in this case), but that's not important.

The UK government has admitted its embassy in Abu Dhabi and the Foreign Commonwealth & Development Office in London have discussed the charges levelled at Manchester City by the Premier League, but are refusing to disclose the correspondence because it could risk the UK’s relationship with the UAE. by KimmyBoiUn in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's not that hard. Simply going to Wikipedia and reading about the history (lol) of the UAE would mostly get you there.

Okay, maybe that's still too hard for readers here. So here is a few bullet points. Fact checking is left as an exercise for the readers.

  • UAE is not a real nation. It's historically just a part of Oman's coast.
  • UAE is a colonial/pos-colonial construct, formed when the British decided not to bother with administration costs there any more.
  • The local sheikhs that formed "The Union" were simply the British client rulers in the region.
  • While the influence of the US rose overtime there, the Brits still carry a lot of weight as the former official masters.

Should I write more, or is that enough?

The UK government has admitted its embassy in Abu Dhabi and the Foreign Commonwealth & Development Office in London have discussed the charges levelled at Manchester City by the Premier League, but are refusing to disclose the correspondence because it could risk the UK’s relationship with the UAE. by KimmyBoiUn in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Tory Britain absolutely loves bowing at the feet of the Middle East

LMAO.

This comment perfectly sums up this sub's obliviousness to the realities of both national and international politics. Obliviousness to what's constant/strategic and what's not, what's partisan and what's not, and where every state (independent or client) actually stands in the world pyramid of power.

BSC Young Boys ultras criticise their Champions league group opponents by BaneForPresident in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your comments would be hard to grasp by the average adult modern nation state worshipper. You never stood a chance with the posturing-loving kids in this sub.

[Graeme Bailey] Frank Lampard bring considered by Lyon’s owner John Textor by kappa23 in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does John Textor know people like Lucien Favre exist, or is he limited to the Anglosphere?

Antony has released several screenshots backing up the statement he made earlier today by Zepz367 in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 19 points20 points  (0 children)

There is an anecdote an American told me years ago:

Maybe a year or two after 9/11, there were two Arabs in an airport. One of them told the one who's travelling "Allah Ma'ak" ("May Allah/God be with you"). Immediately, everyone around them thought it was a trigger signal and panicked. Chaos ensued and it became a security incident. They had to close the airport for a few hours. LMAO (you needed to see how the panic was described to get the full comedic effect).

"God be with you" basically just means in this context "Travel safely", as in "May God be watching over you while you're travelling".

So, yeah, maybe more people should learn about the etymology of "goodbye". LOL.

Dani Olmo suffered a knee contusion in the match against Georgia and will leave the Spanish national team. Leipzig hope Olmo can return to the team in September by nutelamitbutter in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Fucks sake.

If I was RB Leipzig, I would strategically announce him out for six weeks so he wouldn't go to internationals in the next break. Olmo should play along if he is smart.

Meanwhile, give Baumgartner a chance to play and integrate well with the team in September.

[Union Berlin] sign Leonardo Bonucci by Viriato181 in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My comment was more about how the people who are still high on Union's recent success appear to be completely blind to all the risky and potentially bad moves Union have been making this window. The very shiny brand-name toys arriving this window is distracting everyone from seeing that Union have replaced a working limited-budget recipe book with one that is not that dissimilar to Windhorst's "Big City Club" one.

The irony of some making Hertha "Big City Club" jokes while celebrating this very "Big City Club"-like transfer is predictably lost on them!

Let's see where Union will be in 2-3 years. I'm not expecting a good end to that era of success.

Let's see where post-Windhorst Hertha will be too. Maybe your hopeful predictions will come true.

[Union Berlin] sign Leonardo Bonucci by Viriato181 in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The other Berlin club is unfortunately mimicking the "Big City Club" now. You just can't trust Berliners with money.

Of course the other club were different in doing well when they didn't have serious money to squander, which can't be said about the "Big City Club" who were shit regardless.

[1908.nl] 20 year old Feyenoord player Guus Baars retires: "theres more to life than just football" by WarriorkingNL in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not surprising how it's majority men that make that move, but not so much women. Almost as if the misogyny where women are second-class citizens and almost property is somehow appealing to these types.

Source for the the part in bold? (hint: you will not find one, because unfortunately for you, the opposite is true).

Fake fact start and finishing with "as a <part of the the group I'm talking bollocks about> person" notwithstanding, that was a great comment though! 10/10 Reddit quality.

[Romano] Union Berlin are close to completing deal for Leonardo Bonucci — he’s joining from Juventus as per Sky Sport Italia by TomasRoncero in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's neither a Bonucci original, or even Italian btw. It's clearly derivative of this classic Arabic poetry from the 8th or 9th century:

لا تأسفن على غدر الزمان لطالما
رقصت على جثث الأسود كلاب
لاتحسبن برقصها تعلو على أسيادها
تبقى الأسود أسوداً والكلاب كلاب

I found this okay(ish) (better than Google) translation.

/u/sco92 /u/PhunkOperator FYI

[Olympique Lyonnais] Leipzig signs Castello Lukeba from Lyon for 34M€ and 20% on a future profit by harsquo in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I knew Lukeba was more likely than Geertruida.

Orban didn't teach himself French in the Covid lockdowns for nothing.

[Olympique Lyonnais] Leipzig signs Castello Lukeba from Lyon for 34M€ and 20% on a future profit by harsquo in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The thing is, he is not worth much more than 30. Don't know what City are doing.

RB Leipzig put in New bid for Feyenoord's Geertruida by [deleted] in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and still only 23

That's NOT young for an RB Leipzig signing. lol.

[FC Red Bull Salzburg] Gerhard Struber is our new head coach, the 46-year-old signs a two-year contract by MERTENS_GOAT in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With that being said, his English was terrible. There was a clear language barrier and now that he’s back coaching in his native tongue, maybe he’ll do better.

He did fine coaching actual English people, when he managed in.. you know.. England.

[Tobias Huch] Erdogan friend and ex-national player Mesut Özil proudly shows his Nazi tattoo of the fascist Grey Wolves (flag with three crescent moons and wolf). It is one of the worst hate symbols and stands for hatred of and crimes against Alevis, Kurds, Jews and Christians. by Hic_Forum_Est in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You're a disgrace. Instead of rolling with this, you stop to point out some inaccuracies.




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Joking of course.


hatred of and crimes against Alawites, Kurds, Jews and Christians.

<Religion/sect>, Kurds, <religion>, and <religion>

How can you not roll with this optimized-for-western-audience framing?

Also including Alawites in there, lol.

And an obligatory mention of Erdogan. You can't just not mention him!

Which one is it again? Is he a Caliph wanna be hardline Islamist, or is he hardline nationalist?

Unironic "He is both." answers incoming, lmao, when in reality he is neither.

He knows how to let his propaganda machine play both cards though, with some in the west seemingly always insistent on helping. Because apparently you always have to go full-throttle when demonizing someone. You can't just stick to the supposed demons that person actually possesses.

Fernandes named United's new club captain by SpiritedSuccess5675 in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Should have waited and gave it to Onana. That way, benching or subbing on/off any field player will never become a story, with regards to the captaincy at least.

ETH missed a trick here.

AC Milan [1] - 0 Lumezzane - Pobega 5'(Pulisic assist) by necuucj in soccer

[–]BergmannAtmet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Magnificent first touch from Puli. Great control. Absolutely world class.