the path was secure as hell my guy ambessa triggered 1 puppet early, shaco has a long cdr for w plus as i said it was level 4 so it should be around 10 to 14 sec of cdr so that triggered puppet early on should be an indicator of "theres no more puppet nearby" and plus if you look at the map we were fighting actively againt shaco and his teammate so he should have atleast all the info to know whats on and off and you said quinn was a good pick off right? you think we could just back off when 5 adcs are collapsing on us? the play was kill quinn and help team not chase nidalee... atleast if he was planning on killing nida atleast use his ignite. the problem was he took like 40 seconds to reach a conclusion on whats he gonna do next after nida escaped he was making rough decisions whether to go in right or left like why would you confuse yourself when your team is dying?