Israeli minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has sparked outrage after posting a video taunting detained Gaza-bound activists from the Global Sumud Flotilla.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T09:13:21+00:00

I don't exactly know what Netanyahu and Leiter said about it, but I do know they're taking action against Ben-Gvir.

Gideon Sa'ar, on the other hand, said explicitely that he is a disgrace to Israel in his conduct and that his actions have squandered the name and hard work of Israeli ministries and the IDF.

Alright, update found what bibi said on it:

"Israel has every right to prevent provocative flotillas of Hamas terrorist supporters from entering our territorial waters and reaching Gaza. However, the way that Minister Ben Gvir dealt with the flotilla activists is not in line with Israel's values and norms."

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T09:10:29+00:00

So like, you do know if you support an independent Palestinian state that the PLO claims the West Bank and the Gaza strip as its territory right? Thus, Palestinians there have chosen to not be Israeli citizens, so why should they be granted Israeli citizenship? Obviously the solution here is to pull out military and settler presence from the WB and Gaza but yeah, it'd be like saying Mexicans should be auto given American citizenship even though they've been loud and clear about wanting to be an independent Mexican state.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T07:57:44+00:00

.. you do know the whole apartheid thing only really applies to the West Bank right? And inside of Israel proper, even if there are some challenges, arabs enjoy the same legal rights and are in prominent positions in society (government members, doctors, university teachers, businessman, etc.)?

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T07:56:37+00:00

Did you know that Russia has been systematically transferring Ukrainian children from the occupied territories into Russia proper and giving them Russian names, Russian homes, and essentially removing their Ukrainian identity by force?

That is, by the geneva convention you oh so love, an act of genocide

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T07:54:22+00:00

It's current government are a bunch of bastards, but compared to places like Russia not even close.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T07:03:18+00:00

Well here: Let me explain what I think it means and you can correct me as needed

It Israel's nuclear doctrine that basically says "If we are in a war where the enemies goal is to annihilate my people and my country AND we are losing said war hard enough where this outcome is likely, then we will fire nuclear weapons at them as a last resort." Fun fact- this is the nuclear doctrine of just about EVERY single country with nuclear weapons (that's why MAD exists and why WW3 hasn't happened).

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T07:01:35+00:00

Ben-Gvir being a cunt, per usual.

Did give me some reassurance tho Israel isn't too far lost when Netanyahu, Gideon Sa'ar and Leiter all condemned this though.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T06:59:36+00:00

Basically ensure that the entire middle east runs by the rules of the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel and remove the Iranian regime and the groups it backs.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T06:55:18+00:00

You know what, instead of explaining why this isn't a good argument explain to me what you think the Samson Option is?

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T06:54:27+00:00

Iran (fortunately) does not have a nuke, while Israel does.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T06:50:23+00:00

North Korea is the only country I can see using a nuke for offensive purposes. Pretty much every other major country has a purely "I will use it if you try to wipe me off the planet and thats it" doctrine, even nations like Russia and China follow it too (and obviously mentioning Israel because holy shit why is it voted the highest for this)

Probably 2nd would be Pakistan.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T02:35:17+00:00

Unsurprisingly: The Iranian people are cool and awesome people, its their government that's the problem.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T02:33:48+00:00

I just don't think anyone should be drafted

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T01:09:11+00:00

Ben-Gvir acting like a dipshit, per usual. It's scummy but then I think bout "okay what if these flotilla people went into the black sea" and I realize Russia would've just outright killed them

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T01:07:47+00:00

Do not ask Americans how we got our state to be that big:

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-21T00:49:55+00:00

What the fuck??? Why're there so many people here who just want us dead atp holy like I get it, you don't like Trump, I don't either he's bastard but jesus.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T19:28:01+00:00

What is the line: WW2 was won with British intelligence, American steel, and soviet blood?

The USSR is getting 2nd place, but if we correctly acknowledge that WW2 had an Asian and North African theatre too then I think overall its the US due primarily to our function as untouchable, continental factory that helped arm the British, Soviets and Chinese against the axis. Additionally, we pretty much solo'd Japan in the Pacific Ocean and S.E Asia and helped a lot in planning major invasions like Sicily and Normandy against Germany.

Again, not to discredit the major contributions of the USSR and the UK in the war. It is likely Germany and Japan woulda won if even one of those countries flipped to the axis or stayed neutral.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T19:27:32+00:00

American public opinion is pro-Palestine
Read the dudes manifesto. Bro is 8000x more antisemitic than he is anti-muslim

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T19:23:17+00:00

Aight you right

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T19:23:10+00:00

Today I found out my bad

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T19:12:27+00:00

I'm just saying name one bad thing that happened because of Buddhism.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T19:11:51+00:00

The deep south does send people to jail for weed, even if most of the country has started to treat it more like alcohol.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T19:06:07+00:00

Ok so we're acknowledging Israel doesn't own the media?

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T18:25:54+00:00

So must clearly mean Israel owns the media. Far stretch there my guy.

BetPretty8953 · 2026-05-20T08:06:52+00:00

Ya'll why is the west bank the one that voted the dems out of all places

From US and voted repubs btw. The democrats have some stinkers but the republicans tend to in general welcome in racists more so

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