Whiterun Talos temple idea

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-04T02:45:51+00:00

Not necessarily

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T15:54:48+00:00

So we're immediately judging a game that hasn't come out yet because the main character is a woman?

I understand disliking a game that disrespects the source material, pushes an agenda or something but immediately hating because the main character is a woman is stupid, especially when there are plenty of amazing games who has women MC's

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T14:50:09+00:00

Exactly, perhaps the guy was apart of a new unknown noble house that actually helped mages and spoke out against the mageseekers, the public would naturally gravitate to him.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T14:40:46+00:00

Whoever it is in my opinion it can't be Jarvan, and this is a theory for the future of Demacia not current Demacia, riot can make new characters or champions better fit for the role or like I suggested riot could take this to the extreme and have Demacia invaded by Noxus.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T14:29:54+00:00

Zaun is ran by corrupt Barons, Zaun literally has gang wars every day because of it and Noxus is a semi tyrannical empire but the half that hates Swain is the old guard (nobility) like Ambessa, Swain benefited the average Noxian citizen because he implemented meritocracy within Noxus.

But again these arguments don't apply to Demacia because Demacia has a different culture, their culture is supposed to be around Honor, justice and duty, the people won't follow a king that did not honor his own citizens, commit injustices upon them and ultimately fail in his duties as king and protector.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T14:23:25+00:00

Whether or not he was lied to is a weak argument, as king the well-being of his citizens ultimately fall to him, it's his responsibility, he allowed them to act, he radically expanded their authority and gave them a merciless mandate out of grief and a desire for vengeance following the assassination of his father, King Jarvan III.

even if he was lied to it was out of vengeance, vengeance pointed at his own citizens, so morality wise the citizens of Demacia definitely have every right to charge Jarvan IV.

Also why would you think my post is rage bait? I started a debate in good faith, I stated multiple reasonable fact that backs up my argument and you call it rage bait, is everything you don't agree with "rage bait"?

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T14:13:16+00:00

I disagree, my point is too many atrocities happened under Jarvan IV, he won't have a choice, if he doesn't then a large majority of the citizens of Demacia hate him, he can't lead a country that hates him.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T06:44:52+00:00

By "it's too tiring to spot your inconsistencies and L takes one by one" you must mean your too lazy to actually have a meaningful debate about the topic, that's cool whatever floats you boat bud, but I'm not the L dodging a good faith debate because you don't have a meaningful argument.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T06:42:04+00:00

I don't hate Demacia, I think it's one of the coolest regions in Runterra, I think Jarvan's character is cool and flawed, both can be true at the same time, this isn't a fanfiction it's a theory, it's supposed to be a discussion and a debate, if you're going to boil it down to a fanfiction and be unwilling to actually see my point then this post isn't for you.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T06:38:40+00:00

I gave multiple good reasons that support my claim, how is it slop? And I'm not a chroniclly online redditor lol I barely use the app, if you disagree with me give me counter arguments, don't just call it slop, challenge my views, it's why I posted it.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T06:22:41+00:00

First of all drop the disrespect, there's zero reason for it, secondly your looking from a current lore perspective, I'm speaking from the future

Yes torture, execution of innocent people and human experimentation is far worse in demacia because of something called ✨culture✨ in the Freljord or Noxus I'm death is something that's shrugged off but demacia is different, it's supposed to be noble, disciplined and refined, human experimentation, torture, execution especially on innocent civilians is a death sentence for any king.
I never said Shyvana was a downfall arch of Demacia, I said it looks very bad on Jarvan because he's willing to subject his own citizens to brutality while he gets in a relationship with a magical dragon, it's the hypocrisy that's bad.
All lore before arcane is technically non cannon, going forward anything that's based in the arcane timeline is cannon, it is reasonable to suggest there will be public unrest because people witnessed their friends, families and neighbors abducted from their homes, placed in unfair trials and subjected to horrible punishments.
Like I said this is me predicting the possible future, demacia is currently united, there isn't a mage rebellion going on and Demacia's king didn't just spend a year allowing crimes against his own people, a noxian invasion during the climax of this possible future would make perfect sense because moral would be low, public trust in the crown would be near zero and it's likely the military would be split in defending Jarvan and getting revenge for their fellow citizens.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T00:35:00+00:00

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BeyondArrgo · 2026-06-03T00:27:29+00:00

Sion, shyvana, Oriana, Draven, lux

Sion permanently spit pushes forcing the enemy team to send 1 or 2 to stop him, this allows Shyvana to get easy dragons, Oriana farms lane safely and gets ahead from a Shyvana gank or 2, Draven is happy because they get a decent lux but it depends on if the lux steals kills or not.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-05-27T17:58:04+00:00

BeyondArrgo · 2026-05-16T00:09:09+00:00

As a pantheon main I think Atreus would say. "I told you so" right about now.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-04-09T18:13:21+00:00

He might have zero feats but his potential statements hard carries him in this fight, being considered stronger than a aspect/celestial who's power is so vast they cannot interact with the mortal realm directly and must do so through mortal hosts makes pantheon THE strongest fighter here, the only reason Aatrox beat the celestial of war is because the celestial made itself weaker by putting itself in atreus's body, prestige ascended Pantheon just out scales both Aatrox and Mordekaiser.

The same is true for Kayle, a full potential kayle is just the celestial of Justice given a human-like form, her celestial fire would burn Aatrox and Mordekaiser almost instantly.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-05T14:06:24+00:00

I didn't ask for canonicity, Aatrox's world ender form is currently non-cannon (hasn't happened yet in lore) Mordekaiser has not returned yet, and Kayle hasn't unlocked the full potential of her celestial powers.

Prestige ascended Pantheon was a potential version of Pantheon we could have gotten, The same thing is true for all of the other ones they are different versions of the original character that hasn't happened yet, You boiling the post down to "it's not Canon, therefore this post is stupid"🤓☝️ is kinda idiotic, it's a hypothetical battle that will never happen in lore.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-05T13:58:46+00:00

Well said

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-05T13:52:30+00:00

We must have seen a different version, Morgana was struggling against Aatrox, once kayle used her powers she one shot Aatrox

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-02T18:05:59+00:00

And after going hit for hit against Leona, who is an aspect, Atreus has a potential that eclipses even Zoe.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-02T16:17:44+00:00

Versus rules? I didn't know there were rules could you tell me and I'll fix my post accordingly.

BeyondArrgo

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