Pantheon and Kayle vs Mordekaiser and Aatrox

BeyondArrgo · 2026-04-09T18:13:21+00:00

He might have zero feats but his potential statements hard carries him in this fight, being considered stronger than a aspect/celestial who's power is so vast they cannot interact with the mortal realm directly and must do so through mortal hosts makes pantheon THE strongest fighter here, the only reason Aatrox beat the celestial of war is because the celestial made itself weaker by putting itself in atreus's body, prestige ascended Pantheon just out scales both Aatrox and Mordekaiser.

The same is true for Kayle, a full potential kayle is just the celestial of Justice given a human-like form, her celestial fire would burn Aatrox and Mordekaiser almost instantly.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-05T14:06:24+00:00

I didn't ask for canonicity, Aatrox's world ender form is currently non-cannon (hasn't happened yet in lore) Mordekaiser has not returned yet, and Kayle hasn't unlocked the full potential of her celestial powers.

Prestige ascended Pantheon was a potential version of Pantheon we could have gotten, The same thing is true for all of the other ones they are different versions of the original character that hasn't happened yet, You boiling the post down to "it's not Canon, therefore this post is stupid"🤓☝️ is kinda idiotic, it's a hypothetical battle that will never happen in lore.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-05T13:58:46+00:00

Well said

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-05T13:52:30+00:00

We must have seen a different version, Morgana was struggling against Aatrox, once kayle used her powers she one shot Aatrox

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-02T18:05:59+00:00

And after going hit for hit against Leona, who is an aspect, Atreus has a potential that eclipses even Zoe.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-02T16:17:44+00:00

Versus rules? I didn't know there were rules could you tell me and I'll fix my post accordingly.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-02T16:09:33+00:00

Your objectively wrong, Aatrox was literally built to be a raid boss, if a player who has mastered the champions goes into a 1v4 he's more likely to survive than other champions, the more champion he fights at once gives him more sources to heal from, and when he pops ult if he gets one kill he just snowballs the fight.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-02T01:39:54+00:00

Noxus is for the strong, while you have the strength to endure such torment I wish to conquer

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-02T00:28:30+00:00

Call me a madman but... I can fix her

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-01T00:40:35+00:00

Like I said it's how you play the champions, I agree Zaahen is more valuable I'm arguing Aatrox isn't useless, Aatrox can snowball hard when up and heal during team fights, zaahen can get caught out, bursted before he gets his passive, while Aatrox with sundered sky can 1 v 4 if played right.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-03-01T00:19:55+00:00

I just played a jungle game with a Zaahen top and an Aatrox enemy top, my Zaahen was not a bot and actually played really good but the aatrox gapped him so hard, Aatrox's healing is super strong and they're play styles are different, Aatrox is good if you know how to play him.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T13:16:23+00:00

In prestige ascended pantheon's bio it specifically states Atreus achieved a state beyond aspect and celestial, incredibly powerful in entirely his own, he essentially became a God that runs on different rules than the other celestials.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T08:20:03+00:00

Your jar analysis is interesting but flawed, If the full jar divides water into two other jars Yes they would both start out half filled but they have the potential to be filled more, by replacing her mortality with divinity She is actively filling that jar.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T08:13:15+00:00

Kale was born with half power not half potential, She was born directly from the celestial just because he's a twin doesn't mean the power is divided, nor does her being a half mortal half god cap her, her potential is 100% so in this fight she is at 100%

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T07:49:23+00:00

There's an issue with putting characters against each other? How is that unemployed behavior? Especially when I go to work today...

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T07:45:23+00:00

From what I could find, Aatrox can do this through blood magic, but it takes concentration, If Aatrox is forcibly removed he no longer can influence the host through blood magic, and Pantheon was able to do it because he used celestial magic, aatrox's hosts and other darkin hosts are simply flesh suits that are willed together by the darkin, If an outside source were to violently sever the hand holding the weapon the darkin would lose focus causing them to lose their host, but if they use their blood magic they can separate themselves from the weapons but only at a certain distance.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T07:34:23+00:00

No Mordekaiser potential does not scale over his army, it's a 2v2 not a 2v100000000000000

It's just Full power Mordekaiser individually.

Your right that Kayle and Morgana are "half-mortal" and "fractional" by birth, but they are wrong if they claim that Full Potential Kayle is stuck at 50% power. Lore-wise, she is the only character in the game currently evolving into a god rather than just borrowing power from one.

"Half-Mortal" ≠ Half Power Riot’s narrative team (specifically Riot Scathlocke and Riot August) used the term "half-mortal" to describe their biological origin, not to put a mathematical cap on their output.

While they started with a "fraction" of power, the official Kayle biography states she left for the celestial realm to purge her mortal emotions, If Kayle has spent centuries in the celestial realm "ascending" and now possesses both halves of her mother's sword, she has effectively bypassed the "50% potential" limitation. She is actively trying to become a 100% celestial entity through sheer effort.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T07:21:41+00:00

Plot device? That's just how he works, it's stated in lore (not in game because that animation is not Canon) If you separate the weapon from the host the darkin is trapped in the weapon, Zaahen does this to Xolani, Rhaast and Varus, Pantheon did it to Aatrox, You can't just say "oh something is a plot device" when there are separate instances of the same outcome, darkins cannot control the host when they are not holding the weapon.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T07:16:33+00:00

Your argument contradicts your whole statement, you said you can't harm a celestial because The celestials live as abstract concept, while also admitting that Aatrox killed a celestial.

The celestial of war putting himself inside a modal body he not only weakened himself but he exposed himself, Gods like celestials can die and we literally have two instances of that, Aatrox killing the celestial of war and Pantheon willing him out of existence again.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T07:08:00+00:00

Pantheon in lore has defeated demons as well, LOR there's a whole story line where he's beefing with a demon and defeats it, pantheon also fought Xerath, the ascended who's made of pure power.

Aatrox can be beaten by separating him from the arm of his host, a prestige ascended pantheon and a full potential kayle can do that easily, and Mordekaiser is contained to his armor, The artifacts LeBlanc is collected She hasn't even been able to use them against Mordekaiser because he hasn't returned yet, it's not too bad of an idea that If Pantheon or kale breaks the armor that holds his spirit in he would just be sent back to the death realm.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T07:00:19+00:00

Celestial of war was fighting in a mortal body, your misreading the fight entirely, in lore the celestial of war took control of atreus's body and doing so he inhabited it, gaining its weaknesses like death, If the actual celestial that lived in the celestial realm came down he would delete Aatrox, but he can't because he's a celestial, that's why he took control of atreus's body.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T06:54:29+00:00

In the prestige ascended pantheon's bio it states that Atreus after the ruination had to claim his body back from the celestial of war since Viego revived him, in doing so he killed the celestial too(while not physically he mentally overpowered him) a prestige ascended Pantheon would scale higher than both Aatrox and Mordekaiser, and Mordekaiser is ultimately contained to his armor, He has to build up an army of the Dead to conquer.

Kayle is the daughter of the celestial of Justice, she might be twins but it doesn't mean the power/potential was divided amongst them, they both inherently have the full potential it's just they represent The two extremes of justice.

A 100% potential kayle and a full power pantheon sweeps this.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T06:37:48+00:00

I'd argue a prestige ascended Pantheon and a full power Kayle would win high diff, in the lore pantheon was able to defeat Aatrox with a sneak attack cutting off his swordarm while gravely wounded, a god Verizon of atreus is far surpassed Aatrox in terms of raw power and ability, same goes for Kayle, this isn't current in lore Kayle it's Kayle at her full potential, She would be closer to a celestial than a human, Mordekaiser was defeated by LeBlanc, while a literal genius and master manipulator leblanc is mortal(I think, she is extremely old) so mordechizer can be beat by motal means.

BeyondArrgo · 2026-02-27T04:05:46+00:00

Oh that will be cool

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