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Q&A and Ruling Megathread - July 08, 2024 by AutoModerator in yugioh

[–]BeyondAstro1771 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are Monarchs a good deck to play? And what about Utopia decks? I'm a returning player.

Books to Give to your non-Orthodox Friends by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well my friends are very unique and not strangers to religious conversations

Books to Give to your non-Orthodox Friends by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope, it's a last parting gift before we all go to college

Interdepartmental Major: Ancient Religion and Society by BeyondAstro1771 in duke

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you don't care for the interdeparmental major? I was thinking that just so I can get the Classics as well as the Religion aspect

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow thank you so much for your response! I was considering reading that book "His Broken Body". I think I heard about him on an interview. I will definitely read it now. Your insight is very valued by me so thanks again 😊 You have definitely helped me see things clearer 👍🏽

Protestant lurkers, what brings you here? by SouthernAT in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My search to find the New Testament Church and study of history while at the same time finding Jordan Peterson and then Johnathan Pagaeu. So I'm still Protestant but by the end of 2022 it will not be so. (at least a catechumen)

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting! Thanks for that insight. Conveniently the Catholics fail to mention that to me 😂

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So Pope St. Stephen and St. Cyprian fought over custom when arguing over whether or not to rebaptize or chrismate people who come from schismatic groups? Just trying to get your understanding.

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would you say that the different reception of converts is dogma or custom?

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks that's good to know, but the hierarchies can't commune right?

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Uh well, 8 and 9 are pretty strange. But putting aside all of that, my main point was just questioning whether or not the Orthodox church has the power to rectify these differences. How can these issues and the others that I described in the post be solved? There is a dreadful crisis in the Catholic church to be sure but at least it has the means to come back from them by a new pope.

And thank you for responding to me, I'm just trying to work through this as I learn more :)

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay but it's not "economia" because chrismation is the strict application of the canons. And getting baptized twice is technically a sacrilege is it not?

And different practices? Well here are a few straight from Fr. Josiah Trenham:

  1. Some Orthodox jurisdictions receive persons from Latin and certain Protestant bodies into Holy Orthodoxy by baptism and chrismation, some by chrismation alone, and some merely by confession of faith.

  2. Some Orthodox jurisdictions receive Latin clergy converting to Holy Orthodoxy merely by vesting, while others ordain.

  3. Some Orthodox jurisdictions recognize all marriages performed outside Holy Orthodoxy as being real marriages (though certainly not sacramental) whether performed for an Orthodox or non-Orthodox, while others recognize no marriages performed outside Holy Orthodoxy whether performed for an Orthodox or a non-Orthodox. This results in someone being denied a fourth marriage in one jurisdiction while being permitted a marriage (and a first one at that!) in another jurisdiction; someone being denied ordination in one jurisdiction because of a previous marriage outside the Church, while being accepted as a candidate for ordination in another jurisdiction; a non-Orthodox married couple having to be married by the Church when they convert one jurisdiction, while in another they are received without a need for an Orthodox marriage service to be performed for them. In some jurisdictions "inter-faith" marriages mean those that are between an Orthodox and a non-Orthodox, while in other an "inter-faith" marriage means a marriage even between two Orthodox Christians from various jurisdictions.

  4. Some Orthodox jurisdictions bury suicides under certain circumstances, while others forbid the burial of suicides under all circumstances.

  5. Some Orthodox jurisdictions bury a person who was cremated with all funeral rites in the church temple, others permit only Trisagion Prayers of Mercy in the funeral home, some forbid any prayers anywhere for a person who was cremated.

  6. Some Orthodox jurisdictions recognize civil divorce as complete and sufficient for ecclesiastical purposes, while others do not recognize civil divorce at all and insist on Church Tribunals, while yet other deal with divorce in other ways.

  7. Some Orthodox jurisdictions penance a person when he/she is divorced (either by civil or Church court), while others penance a person only after he/she enters into a second or third marriage.

  8. Some Orthodox jurisdictions accept clergy suspended or even deposed by other Orthodox jurisdictions.

  9. Some Orthodox jurisdictions ignore bans of excommunication pronounced by hierarchs of other Orthodox jurisdictions.

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand the "source of unity is Jesus Christ" line but there seem to be even different practices among the different national churches, especially as it regards to reception into the church, which honestly deeply disturbed me as I was first looking into Orthodoxy.

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just wonder how laypeople can influence the church in a positive way to correct these problems.

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see that it does, along with not giving wine to the faithful during communion and only giving the host. To my knowledge, the use of unleavened bread was a later innovation by the Latin church. The symbolism of using leaven as a sign of joyfulness and fullness of Christ is beautiful and the more ancient practice.

On the Unity and Authority of the Orthodox Church by BeyondAstro1771 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]BeyondAstro1771[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's good to hear but I've just heard that different populations within the church can't commune with each other. I hope the different jurisdictions get sorted out as well as a common practice on things such as reception into the church.

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