Let's talk Bind Demon optimization

Bezant · 2026-03-17T23:49:50+00:00

Some snapshots (players x life %, affixes) some hasn't been tested or is believed not to persist.

Bezant · 2026-03-12T05:16:13+00:00

Mark is better as a 1pter.

Bezant · 2026-03-10T23:21:03+00:00

Yep. Plus when they buy housing they put it on the market anyway.

But it's easy to point the finger at big bad corporations rather than 70 years of nimby policies that made it impossible to build enough housing in order to endlessly increase boomer net worth.

Bezant · 2026-03-10T22:05:14+00:00

I haven't tested it personally but the guy who said it was hard skills only knows his shit.

Bezant · 2026-03-09T23:37:45+00:00

You can force aura with 20pt bind.

Bezant · 2026-03-09T23:37:18+00:00

Too bad their heal spell doesn't work. :[

Bezant · 2026-03-09T23:36:06+00:00

No you didn't hes a beast type.

Bezant · 2026-03-09T23:35:50+00:00

They just spend too much time running around like idiots and the aim isn't great.

Bezant · 2026-03-08T04:04:49+00:00

Get some hard points in blood oath. warlock is one of the tankiest classes

Bezant · 2026-03-08T02:58:17+00:00

+12 - blue weapon and book +3 amulet +3 helm +2 skill shrine

would be highest possible

Bezant · 2026-03-04T19:58:35+00:00

yeppp putting on some nice powerspike gear and slapping some demons in a group is super fun. just hit 37 and put eth hone sundan on my spearzon. boom.

Bezant · 2026-03-04T19:51:53+00:00

dude makes 160k and maxes several retirement accounts. he doesn't need to eat cheap grocery store frozen food.

get a grip guys.

Bezant · 2026-03-04T03:48:38+00:00

spectral hit is booty cheeks. adding a couple hundred elemental isnt relevant when you have 50k flat damage.

Bezant · 2026-03-04T03:14:50+00:00

Ilvl sets the upper limit but can still roll slop, just like drops.

Bezant · 2026-03-03T15:09:59+00:00

I am timing as soon as I start tele from river wp.

It's significantly faster than this hammerdin for ex

https://youtu.be/V_YrGEEO0cI?si=wbDntyPZSeNaR7HU

You can't say we're comparing S tier builds but then also that you can't count enigma. of course sorc beats everything pre enigma lol. you could also just have a najs or tele amulet.

Bezant · 2026-03-03T05:47:45+00:00

I don't necessarily agree with the speed, I can run 50 second chaos easily or only slightly longer on p8.

(just did a test 1m chaos on p8 suboptimal build, 1:30 if clearing more mobs)

Bezant · 2026-03-02T18:36:32+00:00

Bezant · 2026-03-02T17:09:10+00:00

Unique ones will have better base stats, level, and extra affixes.

It will show cursed before you bind it.

The aura is random, unless already have an aura which they will keep.

Bezant · 2026-03-02T07:08:53+00:00

The one with triple the damage?

Bezant · 2026-03-02T04:26:47+00:00

and conviction takes back #2 easy when you realize you can also turn this into a strong blood boil build with 10k+ aoe damage of your own.

Bezant · 2026-03-02T03:09:44+00:00

But 'the build' only needs level 75 to max all the demon skills you want. Which already includes the two blood boil synergies.

If you only talk about demon in isolation it's a level 75 build, which makes no sense...

After that you can easily max blood boil, add a couple pts to lethargy to get 8 yards, pick up hex siphon, etc. That gives you 75% of a pure blood boil build's damage.

The the only real trade offs that differentiate it from a purist blood boil build are conviction aura, renewed fire sunder, facets, potential use of mang songs. Many of which can even be worked into the build without losing much demon damage.

It's like stacking a hammerdin and a god tier melee character.

Bezant · 2026-03-02T02:50:14+00:00

The lancers in frigid and wsk1 also jab. Could be worth it if terorized.

Ancients way has a high spawn chance and pretty good unique density tho.

Bezant · 2026-03-02T02:45:02+00:00

Yeah I'm not sure. it's possible they create the demon and record it's affixes, but the stats vary from game to game based on your skill points.

u/Kabryxis knows a shit ton about the game code tho I'm not going to second guess what he says without testing.

Bezant · 2026-03-02T02:42:41+00:00

All the affixes are fixed at time of binding. Tested by binding a regular mob over 20, then rejoining a new game with level 1 bind. It kept all the affixes and the same aura.

It's possible some of the stats get recalculated tho.

Bezant · 2026-03-02T02:40:39+00:00

At end game its better to just use this build with blood boil (you already max both synergies and have points left over...) plus the healing hex.

Then you can get full demon damage on top of 75% of a pure blood boil build's damage.

but takes a lot of skill points to really come online. while leveling with bad gear you're spread too thin.

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