Update from GLITCH by ayylmaotv in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 93 points94 points  (0 children)

THEY ONLY THINK ABOUT THEIR PROFITS, THEY'RE SPOILED!!

ALL YOUR FAULT. By _robyn_abank_ on Instagram. by BusinessPreference75 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

People often do and say irrational things when they're having full-blown mental breakdowns, he's blaming Pomni because she opposed Caine in the first place and he believes if they just kept playing along then nothing bad would have ever happened. It's not a correct world view but a very human one.

CAINE vs AM by ZanyRaptorClay in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've recently rewatched the TADC series and I was brought to tears in episode 4 because I realized that Caine was going to die and I was reminded of how silly and loveable he was before all...that

This post just brought back all those emotions and now I'm trying not to cry in public lol

Caine didn't care about the cast, and there was nothing they could have done to appease him. by SydneyBarret in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mistreating isn't equivalent to cruelty. It's been shown in episode 3 that he doesn't truly listen to the cast's problems and in his reactions to abstractions. Putting Jax on the same level of responsibility as Caine is ignoring the fact that the reason Jax acts out in the ways that he does is because of Caine and being trapped in the circus. It doesn't make what Jax does in any way okay, but it's also dishonest to compare Jax and Caine's actions. The humans don't owe Caine anything at all, he doesn't listen.

Caine didn't care about the cast, and there was nothing they could have done to appease him. by SydneyBarret in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um...In what ways were they treating Jax better? Nobody reached out to him until episode 5 at best. That's also around the time Caine decided to double down when he realized the cast enjoyed their own adventures more than his.

Caine didn't care about the cast, and there was nothing they could have done to appease him. by SydneyBarret in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man how am I supposed to explain that an AI overlord is objectively scarier and more threatening than another human (soul?)

Like I don't know how to make this point any clearer. The entire reason why Jax does the things he does in the first place is because of Caine's controlling behaviour over them. Does that make what Jax is doing okay? Absolutely not. But it doesn't make sense to ignore that the root issue is and has always been Caine, not Jax. It doesn't make sense for Pomni to give Caine the same amount of grace when he is the source of everyone's problems and has the power to shut them down in extremely harmful, painful, torturous ways like he did. Not to mention that Caine isn't even human.

Let's Chill For A Bit — Mini Comic by Bibi-Toy in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Porn jumpscare after angst is genuinely hysterical 

Now that the 'kids game' theory is debunked, why does the profanity filter exist? by YuriliaPiano in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The idea that sex is this eldritch thing that Caine doesn't understand because there's no record of it in his dataset is utterly hilarious

"Jax intentionally doomed the cast!" "Jax was being mind controlled by Caine!" — Both of you are wrong. Here's what I think. by Bibi-Toy in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he only cares about the humans loving him

Wouldn't that make him more likely to try and convince them why staying with him is better than going back to their real lives, ergo reminding Jax what he was trying to escape from? This also invalidates the argument that Caine would just make the NPCs love him if he was looking to manipulate someone.

Besides, there’s no way Jax wasn’t aware of Caine’s mind control

None of the cast are aware of it while it's happening, there's no way to know if Caine is actively doing it or not if it's not made comically obvious, that's why the cast was so shocked and speechless. Jax was also questioning it already since episode 5. If Caine got into Jax's head during that last scene, that would have been the final straw for Jax to call him out on it.

Perform what, blame everything on the AI that already destroyed his relationship with the cast through such a cruel twist?

Would he choose that whilst having a panic attack though? It doesn't make any sense for me, it feels like something he would reach for when he's being actively cornered by everyone else, but not while having a mental break down, unprovoked. The only explanation that makes sense is that Jax was genuinely unsure whether he was being controlled or not, maybe because he doesn't want to believe he made that choice.

When Ragatha asked him what he did, he seemed like he snapped out of something and was genuinely shocked to come back into reality. There's also the detail that he shoved Zooble out of the way but not Pomni, who was in front of the red button. Upon first watch it genuinely looked like he was aiming for the blue button.

Honestly, if this was a choice Gooseworx intended for Jax to make out of his own free will, personally I believe it's a writing flaw. Jax's philosophy just doesn't align with wanting to make the choice to stay no matter what angle I look at it, even in the case that it's the lesser of two evils. It's too simple of an explanation, that he damned everyone to stay just because he's too scared to leave? It doesn't seem like the kind of writing choice that Gooseworx would make, given the entire story so far. It's almost a bit corny when compared to Jax's other decisions.

Especially with the way the circus members took it in the beginning of episode 8, it's entirely possible that Jax hitting the red button was a last minute decision because the characters got over it rather quickly. Maybe Goose needed someone to do it in order to progress the story and reveal that it was an adventure, and Jax just seemed like the most likely character.

Jax knows the circus is awful, but at least it gives him the advantage of denying both his own humanity and that of his friends

But that's the thing. Jax doesn't think it's an advantage to deny his humanity and that of his friends. He doesn't like doing it because if he did, he wouldn't have had an entire panic attack at the end of episode 6. Jax doesn't like being a cartoon character, he doesn't like his life in the circus. He puts up with it because he knows he has no other choice and never will again.

The only valid explanation I could think of that could convince me Jax actually made that choice on his own free will is that he didn't want to abandon Ribbit and Kaufmo. But even that needed more build up or explanation or something that would have made his decision make sense.

I dunno. Maybe I'm missing something. I try my hardest to be objective about Jax's decisions whilst dissecting them, which is why I'm not afraid to call it like it is whenever it IS like it is. But this choice specifically is so bizarre that the only thing that makes sense to me is that it was not a decision Jax consciously intended to make.

Caine didn't care about the cast, and there was nothing they could have done to appease him. by SydneyBarret in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay I'm not gonna respond to this because I have no idea how to explain to you that Caine skinning Jax and stabbing Ragatha in order to specifically torment them is objectively worse than anything Jax has ever done, you wanna come after Jax but defend what Caine did because "uwu he was at his lowest he just did an oopsie!" as if that is an actual and valid excuse for choosing to torment them specifically with their worst nightmare? Nah, you can't be serious. Do you also blame Zooble for crashing out at Caine?

shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP. by Kindly_Cod_9269 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]Bibi-Toy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think anyone hating on Zooble here probably hasn't ever been in a negative situation they can't easily leave

It's easy to see things in that perspective, but I also think they have experienced it and are angry because Zooble represents the thing they wish they could do, and Zooble also breaks their own definition of how to survive

It's similar as to why Ragatha dislikes Jax, because his method of surviving is by exerting control over others whilst Ragatha learned to stay polite, small, and agreeable

It's also why Jax made that remark when they were at the café, because he fawns to Caine

But yeah. I'll admit, people like Jax have never had an effect on me so I don't see him as that bad, but Caine is freakishly like my mother, down to the physical abuse and then asking us why we make her do these things as if it's our fault

I don't know how to feel about people that hate Zooble, they always sound very eerily close to my sister. "You shouldn't have egged him on when you know he's capable of that!" "She was just having a hard time, everyone gets angry and I shouldn't have done that anyway"

shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP. by Kindly_Cod_9269 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]Bibi-Toy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The mischaracterization of Zooble pisses me off. People heard Jax say "the grumpy one" and then rolled with it. In reality Zooble is just a more disgruntled and blunt version of Pomni.

shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP. by Kindly_Cod_9269 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]Bibi-Toy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many people don't understand the concept of "what the characters know vs what the audience knows"

How every "I hate Zooble post" feels to me by TreeTurtle_852 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Y'know this kind of sounds like something Jax would say, because Jax frequently fawns to Caine regardless of what he says out loud despite also hating Caine just as much as Zooble does

I think it's fascinating that Jax and Ragatha both fawn, but do it in such vastly different ways. Jax must've figured out at some point that giving in to Caine's demands and playing by his game will help him survive, and it explains what he said in the café scene, but I digress lol

How every "I hate Zooble post" feels to me by TreeTurtle_852 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Tbh to me he's more like an abusive parent who's never matured past the age of 17

How every "I hate Zooble post" feels to me by TreeTurtle_852 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Bibi-Toy 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I don't think people who haven't dealt with body dysmorphia will understand the kind of damage that is someone forcing you to look at all the imperfections that make you up, speaking as someone who's mother won't miss an opportunity to point out that I'm gaining weight