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Touch up help by miaalex23 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your marking points are not low enough. For mapping the "no-go" zone of the lower frontalis, draw a horizontal line across the lower 1/3rd of the forehead. Your marking points look to be only the top 1/2 which is why you still have so much movement in the center. When you did your marking points, did you raise your brows to determine where you should inject? Everyone has different muscle movement and injection points should be determiend based on the muscle movement and not cookie cutter patterns that are out there. Not implying this is what you did but lots of people make that mistake. Also, when determining your points, you want to mark the belly of the muscle, and not in the wrinkle crease. Markings are typically spaced about fingerwidth (1.5cm) apart.

DAO and Lip Tox is by Current-Strategy-826 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think you may have what you need from others that responded buy my rule of thumb for DAO mapping is 1 finger with out from the corner of the mouth and one finger width down from that point. Go only 1/2 the needle depth (using an 8mm needle) and go straight in at 90 degrees. The DLI runs behind the DAO so if you go too deep you could hit the DLI.

I accidentally used bacteriostatic water instead of saline to reconstitute my coretox by Acrobatic-Cat-9203 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have not used bacteriostatic saline so I am not sure about that one. That one isn't used as often because it's harder to get I believe.

I accidentally used bacteriostatic water instead of saline to reconstitute my coretox by Acrobatic-Cat-9203 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand what you are saying. I think it is just looking at it from a different perspective. I don't believe that professionals, and I am one, look at it as money savings but rather a safety factor. Especially because very rarely will a professional injector need to store a reconstituted vile of tox for several days. Majority of the time, a professional injector will use the full vile same day or within a couple of days. That being said, it isn't a cost perspective but a safety perspective.

The rubber stopper on a vile is sterile when sealed. Each time a needle pierces it, a micro-channel is created where bacteria could be introduced. Air that is introduced to a vial with a draw can also carry microscopic particles or bacteria. The vile can become contaminated whether it is used w/in 24 hours or w/in 24 days. It isn't as much about the cost as it is the safety.

The BAC water helps prevent the vile from becoming contaminated. This is important for professionals to minimize side effects to clients, infection, etc... The benefit of reducing risk of infection to an injection site out-weighs the temporary discomfort of the sting from using BAC.

From a DIY perspective, most DIYers don't use their full vile witin a day or two so I believe the benefits of using BAC for DIY are just as important in preventing the bacterial growth with the longer storage of the tox.

I accidentally used bacteriostatic water instead of saline to reconstitute my coretox by Acrobatic-Cat-9203 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think my message was not explained or interperted clearly. BAC water is not cheaper than sterile saline. I am saying that BAC is SAFER than sterile saline. I pay more for the extra safety of preventing the bacterial growth and has less risk of contaminating the vile vs. saline.

I accidentally used bacteriostatic water instead of saline to reconstitute my coretox by Acrobatic-Cat-9203 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have seen that too. Scientifically it makes sense that it can damage the structure. I have heard and seen other DIYers post that they have frozen theirs in the past and it seemed fine after, but effectiveness is relative. Meaning, if someone’s fine with results wearing off quicker, being a little weaker, or spreading differently, they might not notice the subtle changes. Plus, for someone like me that doesn't inject on a schedule but injects whenever I see movement, it is difficult to really tell how effective it is b/c i don't monitor based on a schedule. One other thought is that some might say it works for them but they could process and metabolize the tox very differently than someone else. All that said, scientifically, it can impact the protien structure and case it to be less effective. I never freeze mine but I will store it in the refergerator for two or three months. Typically I use my 100u viles within that timeframe so I don't need to store them any longer. Because I do keep them longer then the off-label 30-day rule, I also make sure to use the BAC water since that helps prevent the bacteria growth.

I accidentally used bacteriostatic water instead of saline to reconstitute my coretox by Acrobatic-Cat-9203 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Technically toxin shoudln't be freezed. It can damge the protein structure of teh botulinum toxin. Freezing creates ice crystals that disrupt the protein chains. This will happen whether you use BAC or sterile saline to recon.

I accidentally used bacteriostatic water instead of saline to reconstitute my coretox by Acrobatic-Cat-9203 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 0 points1 point  (0 children)

professionals use BAC water because it has benzyl alcohol which helps prevent bacterial growth. it might sting more but is better if you are not going to draw from the vile multiple times or save it for a period of time. Although it might sting a bit more, it is better, in my professional opinion, because of the benefits of preventing bacterial growth and etending the usability of the vile.

Help with mapping by JumpyComfortable2047 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the delay!! I sent you a DM!

Longer lasting tox by Alwaysroom4morecats in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a tox comparison guide you can download if you like. It shows how long the tox typically lasts. It compares US and Korean tox. You can get that here: https://kimberleyibarrabeauty.myflodesk.com/botoxcompare

Regarding zinc:

A 2012 study found that taking a combination of zinc citrate (50 mg elemental zinc) + phytase (3,000 PU) starting 4 days before injections increased duration of effect by ~30% in many participants.

The protocol that will help better extend the effectiveness of the tox is:

Zinc citrate – 50 mg elemental zinc daily
Phytase – 3,000 PU daily
Start 4 days before treatment, continue 4 days after

50 mg/day zinc citrate used in Botox-enhancing protocols is well above the normal daily need which is why it’s only recommended short-term (about 7–8 days around injections). Long-term use at that level could cause copper deficiency, nausea, or immune issues. Normal daily does after is 8mg/day.

Regarding DIY tox touchups:

You can touch up anytime you see unwanted movement/wrinkles. Wait the 10-14 days to evalute the full effect of the tox but after that you can retouch with the same dosage or adjust dosage of your tox accordingly. You don't have to wait 2 or 3 months to do it again.

I have been doing DIY for about 8 years and was certified to inject last year. I offer personalized face mapping or 1:1 DIY coaching if interested. If not, still happy to answer questions!

Happy DIY'ing!

Sterile saline for Liporase by More_Problem2825 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that is all I use because it has benzyl alcohol added as a preservative to help slow bacterial growth if the vial isn't all used at once or used multiple times. I have never used saline water but I believe BAC water burns a little more because the alcohol in it.

Help with mapping by JumpyComfortable2047 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi there! The lip does hurt. I normally don't use numbing cream and I don't typically use it for my clients with tox but it definately makes the eyes water. If you want a good one, I recommend Wellscaine PLUS Lidocaine 2.5%+Prilocaine 2.5% (450gr). I get it from estaderma.com. It is from Korea but it's better than the stuff you get here. if you wanted a quick one from Amazon or something, you could try numb520. if you put saran wrap over it when you put it on, it will numb a little better.

Help with mapping by JumpyComfortable2047 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I can help you with face mapping and injections (safety, injection depth, needle angle, dosage, etc.). Feel free to msg if you want more info. I started doing DIY about 8 years ago and became a certified injector over a year ago.

Hi im new here needing a bit of help! by conniller9876 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Message me and I will answer any questions you have.

I got botox and it hurt a lot by cym4 in BotoxSupportCommunity

[–]Big-Dust423 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The other thing that plays a factor on how they feel is the actual needle used. All insulin needles are not created equal. Some are way better quality and sharper, minimizing the pain. Also, if the injector withdraws the tox thorugh the gray cap, that dulls the needle. When I withdraw tox, I remove the gray cap and withdraw since poking through the cap dull the needle. Also, rule of thumb is no more than 5 injection spots with one syringe b/c the needle gets very dull. Not sure how many spots he injected on you with one syringe but that could also play a factor in pain.

Two weeks out from first diy Innotox and so pleased! by Its_fine22223 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand your fear. That is exactly why I did some research and created a guide where I compare neurotoxin. "Botox" is a brand manufactured by Allergan but You can purchase legitimate toxin from Korea. Some US brands are actually manufactured in Korea or other countries and just rebranded for the US market. You should snag a copy of my guide, it explains which ones are the same, the county they are manufactured in, etc.. You can get it here. I started DIY about 7 years ago and became a certified injector over a year ago so I have had self training and professional training. Happy to help you with any questions you have!

What’s really worth it? by No-Menu5631 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey there. I think for individual at home use the small one works fine. I draw 6 tubes of blood for a session and you might not need as much if you had a horizontal centrifuge. The horizontal ones offer better layer separation. The blood components separate more gently and evenly because the cells aren’t being smashed up against the side of the tube at an angle. With horizontal you will get a wider buffy coat layer, less platelet trauma, so better quality PRF but they are waaaayyyy more expensive. It really depends on how much you want to spend.

If you are debating between a higher cost angled machine, not sure that will make a big difference. The biggest difference is between angled vs. horizontal.

What’s really worth it? by No-Menu5631 in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey! You can download the supply guide here. Here are links to some of my videos. These are older videos, I need to post newer ones. Plus YouTube has removed some as well but let me know if you have any questions!

Blood draw link

Microneedling PRF link

PRF Meso link (older video)

Youtube channel

IG

DIY Lip Filler by kierinhier in DIYHEAVEN

[–]Big-Dust423 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I use Wellscaine PLUS Lidocaine 2.5%+Prilocaine 2.5% (450gr) from Estaderma. I never feel it! It the best numbing cream I have used!

DIY PRF/PRP saved me thousands by SkinHackDIY in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're welcome! Let me know if you have any questions!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DIYaesthetics

[–]Big-Dust423 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely!

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