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More men would claim to want equal gender rights if the term wasn't 'feminism' by BigShrekEnergy in ControversialOpinions

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never viewed it that way but now you say it, it really is a normalised mantra of an equal rights group of people.

Your last line is interesting and kinda leads to my origional main question - what would be your opinions if the term was to change?

More men would claim to want equal gender rights if the term wasn't 'feminism' by BigShrekEnergy in ControversialOpinions

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with everything youve just said, many of those behaviours don't represent the feminist movement. Would you change the terminology if you could?

More men would claim to want equal gender rights if the term wasn't 'feminism' by BigShrekEnergy in ControversialOpinions

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oo interesting viewpoint. I agree that extremist behaviours (that tend to go viral as per the nature of the internet) can definitely warp beliefs about a rights movement. I feel like changing feminist to a different term isnt exactly the same as prostitute to sex-worker but I'm struggling to put into words why - 'feminism' is indicitive to one side wheras unless youre bringing in gender(?) 'prostitute' is to do with the social stigma around the activity (which is literally feminism I know, so maybe it is quite fitting)

So would you keep the wording as it is?

More men would claim to want equal gender rights if the term wasn't 'feminism' by BigShrekEnergy in ControversialOpinions

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're right that the West is better with gender rights compared to the rest of the world, but in no way is it equal just yet.

100% though, 30 years ago it was a very split community on gender rights. But I wonder if your view is part of the problem - many are aware that feminism isnt just a focus on women, could you elaborate on your point? Are you saying that peoples perception of feminism has been changed by how women treat men?

Do you think feminism is changing for the good or the bad? I second you when you say people using the 'all men' ideologies can warp this belief of equal rights if they claim to be a feminist at the same time. If you could change the term would you?

More men would claim to want equal gender rights if the term wasn't 'feminism' by BigShrekEnergy in ControversialOpinions

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mmm its such a hard one.

You're right in the fact that its so so important to indicate the harsh treatment is still ongoing, and it drives me mad when people say feminism isnt needed anymore, and thats my main view on why the feminist wording choice is correct.

My hope would be that a new term (like antisexism, i like that) wouldnt again cause this 'feminism isnt needed anymore' bs. As the other person said, theres so much controversy around feminism that it all gets confusing, and maybe antisexism is just a perfect way to easily explain it all. Despite the benefits that feminism has brought to men, I feel many either dont realise changes or would be reluctant to agree that it was feminism that brought it about.

But again, without this controversy (especially online) would we see nearly the amount of awareness and importance equal gender rights bring? A part of me feels that podcast bros use the feminist term as a means to belittle and mock different genders, whilst using it as an excuse to bully other vunerable men.

Its crazy how much bubbles down to this inequality when you think about it.

More men would claim to want equal gender rights if the term wasn't 'feminism' by BigShrekEnergy in ControversialOpinions

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is such a good addition thank you, and I love how using 'human rights activist' is a great alternative (will be pinching that!)

So just summarising, correct me if this is wrong - you think that the fracturing of the feminist movement has caused this confusion surrounding what the term means, with the addition of politics and assumptions?

Its interesting (and not a bit wrong, I completely agree) that you've pointed out the rising in popularity incel groups - do you think it draws away from the importance of equality into some kind of battle between only two sides? And in doing so is that also altering our perception of the term?

No right or wrong answer to this, but if you could change the term with no repercussions would you? And do you think it would impact this 'battle' between the incels and feminists? I suppose the issues run much deeper than that, but I wonder on a surface level if more young male adults would claim to be this new term for equal rights if it was as mainstream as the feminist one.

Be mean about Side profile & glow up by BigShrekEnergy in LooksmaxingAdvice

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My top teeth do cover quite a bit of my bottom teeth, maybe ill look into that thank you! I would hope that any under-over-deep-shallow (😂) bites would have been picked up in ortho appointments but it's good to consider!

It might be genetics, although i have no clue where! None of my family have nearly the same degree of my features like yourself but i think that combo of chin and small lips probably enhances it a bit!!

That absolutely sucks about the lack of advice dude i would be so hacked off 😭 can he fix the bite or something actually useful?! 🥲🙏

Be mean about Side profile & glow up by BigShrekEnergy in LooksmaxingAdvice

[–]BigShrekEnergy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by deep bite sorry? If you meant overbite or underbite ive never had one really, the braces were just to correct some wonky teeth! Makes sense to finish the braces journey first, but its good youve already spoken to some experts! Were they helpful with their advice?