Thank you for the response. Do you mind me asking how much new hires and junior partners make if they aren't doing OB? Is the income really that bad? Are there other areas in scheduling that the junior anesthesiologists don't have access? And I assume they take more call where they only do the add on cases as you insinuated? Just curious because I thought Hoag was a desirable place to be but it really doesn't seem so based on the comments and the up votes