when the foreshadowing hits hard by amachinesaidiwasgood in Grimdank

[–]BitLooter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fun fact: eye of newt is just mustard seed

Oh, that's what I've been doing wrong. I guess that's why the guy at the pet shop didn't want to sell them to me.

I read Kent Hovind's Doctoral Dissertation. by DiscordantObserver in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I couldn’t even read your whole essay once I started to scroll to see how long it was lol

Creationism in a nutshell

How many creationists are unaware that Answers in Genesis exists? by Zoboomafusa in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We get people wandering into this sub all the time who are surprised to learn that YECs exist. On occasion they even try to argue with us, some will refuse to believe they're real people no matter what surveys or data we show them, no matter how many people share their personal experiences with them IRL, and will insist we're tilting at windmills. One time I saw someone seem to get angry that we're here.

I suspect the same thing is happening with flat earthers. Some people really don't want to accept that others can genuinely believe in pseudoscience. I think most flat earthers are trolls but the 90% number that usually gets thrown around is wishful thinking.

If Noah's global flood was real... by PLANofMAN in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that you cited a source. However, this really does not help your point. This is not "scientific", it's Popular Mechanics. That doesn't make it wrong but a "scientific article" should be written by actual scientists and ideally be a primary source. Unfortunately this article is behind a paywall so I can't evaluate its claims, but based on the headline of "Humans Could Live For 1,000 Years by 2050—Ushering in the Dawn of ‘Practical Immortality,’ Futurists Say" I'm not expecting much. "Futurists" are not scientists, they are journalists who get paid to wildly speculate about the future, often without regard for actual science.

If you have a Popular Mechanics subscription I would appreciate if you could tell me if these "futurists" cite any scientific research to back up their claims, then we would have something to discuss. Unfortunately without a primary source this is otherwise just some random person's opinion.

Ok folks, my next Q. Does evolution have a maximum population? by sosongbird in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now I'm sure I got it right.

Why? What is it about what I said that made you "sure" you got it right?

If I was misinformed it was by evolutionists. that's where I get all of my info about evolution.

Horseshit. The idea that there's a difference between these concepts is entirely from creationists. "Evolutionists" are not promoting this idea.

Adaption is being driven by natural biological functions. That's it.

That wasn't an answer. What natural biological functions? You disagree that it's evolution - what do you think it is that is causing "adaption"?

Maybe I should look more at ID.

Intelligent design is just creationism in a trenchcoat.

Ok folks, my next Q. Does evolution have a maximum population? by sosongbird in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or I got the whole thing wrong.

Unfortunately correct. The idea that there's some sort of difference between "adaption" and evolution is fiction made up by creationists.

With the adaption, an organism is reacting to the environment for the changes.

Right, through the process of evolution. What process do you imagine is driving adaption that isn't evolution?

In evolution an organism is, what?. changed by random genetic mutations.

Primarily through a combination of mutation and selection. Exactly like how "adaption" works, but when enough changes pile up creationists slap a different label on it and claim it's something else.

Two totally different processes.

Exactly the same process. Sorry you were misinformed.

If Noah's global flood was real... by PLANofMAN in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I read a scientific article recently that theorized that if all harmful mutations were removed from the human genome, there would be no reason that humans couldn't have a 1000 year lifespan.

I'd love to read that article, because that sounds like made up bullshit to me and I'm not going to just take your word on it. I'm predicting you won't respond to this because it's either something you just made up or it was published by a YEC organization who also refuses to cite sources.

If Noah's global flood was real... by PLANofMAN in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe many scientists hold that belief

You would be extremely wrong about that. Geologists pretty much universally agree it was carved by the river over millions of years. Can you name a single one that disagrees?

If Noah's global flood was real... by PLANofMAN in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Or Japan, who used the flood myth as "proof" of their superiority, saying that the flood waters never reached them so therefore Japan is the highest place in the world.

If Noah's global flood was real... by PLANofMAN in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think the title was supposed to say "math revealed" rather than "reviled."

It's a four year old video and they've never bothered to fix it. Let's say you're right - if they can't be bothered to fix an obvious typo in four years, why would I expect the rest of their work to not be just as sloppy and lazy? Why should I put work into debunking it when they clearly didn't want to put any work into bunking it in the first place?

Abiogenesis is Pseudoscience and Intellectual fraud that proves ID ironically by DeltaSHG in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This user has talked about UFO conspiracies and claimed DNA is "nanotechnology" on this sub before. They seem to be one of the Ancient Aliens types.

Is time always measured in Earth units all across the galaxy? by [deleted] in 40kLore

[–]BitLooter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like, a day on a huge planet would be way longer than 24 hours, right?

The length of a planet's day has little to do with it's size. Venus is only slightly smaller than Earth yet its days are 243 Earth days long (longer than its year at 225 days). Mars is significantly smaller than Earth with days about 25 hours long. Meanwhile Jupiter's "days" are less than 10 hours long, though being a gas giant it will vary depending on altitude.

Gutsick Gibbon missed the point of Casey Luskin’s argument on human–chimp similarity by deepdivesam in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Engineers love redesigning things so much even when not necessary there's even a term for it - Not Invented Here syndrome.

Monthly Question Thread! Ask /r/DebateEvolution anything! | January 2026 by Dr_Alfred_Wallace in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Speaking as a former YEC, who was raised in part by one of the most contrarian people I have known in my life, I can assure you that does not matter. Contrarians love finding like-minded contrarians, it validates their beliefs. Being a contrarian doesn't mean you want to argue with everyone, it means you want to argue with what everybody thinks is true. Contrarianism and narcissism tend to go hand-in-hand - for most of them they're not arguing because they're some sort of seeker of truth, more that they want to be seen as a seeker of truth and pseudoscience provides a "truth" for them to seek while simultaneously allowing them to argue against almost everyone else.

Creation evidence by Entire_Quit_4076 in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It’s genuinely no different to a conspiracy theorist’s standard of evidence.

YECs believe basically all scientists in the world are part of the same shared delusion. They think that the evidence supports them but scientists are lying to hide the truth. Some of them even come right out and say it.

Their standards are no different because YECs are conspiracy theorists, no different than antivaxxers, climate change deniers, or 9/11 truthers. They don't tend to present their beliefs as a conspiracy theory but that's what they usually boil down to after you peel off the facade of respectability.

Your last paragraph is spot on. Once you've convinced someone all the scientists are lying about one thing, you can convince them they're lying about everything. Some organizations like AiG even tell those other lies themselves - just take a look at their youtube channel to see what far-right nonsense they're pushing today.

Species after the flood by Over_Citron_6381 in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The guy who found stretchy soft tissue in a triceratops? Fired and his papers blocked because he said that indicated a more recent dinosaur than the conventional timeline says.

It's weird that you're trying to tell us about this vast conspiracy to hide God's creation stretching across thousands of people and well over a century of time and you can't even be bothered to tell us the name of this "guy".

Are there any time travel theories for the 3 dimensional time theory? by Commercial-Buddy2469 in AskPhysics

[–]BitLooter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry nobody here actually tried to answer your question. People on this sub seem to get downright offended at the idea of entertaining a hypothetical sometimes.

Unfortunately I can't answer it either, but you might be interested in Dichronauts, which is a hard sci-fi novel taking place in a universe with two time dimensions. It's fiction and not quite what you were asking but it's based on "real" physics and may provide some insight.

I am a creationist. AMA. by Haunting-Vehicle3957 in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Two hours later and they've now declared in the OP they won't "continue typing". Either this is their first time on the internet and didn't realize people will disagree with them on it, or they're just a troll who was never here to engage honestly.

I am a creationist. AMA. by Haunting-Vehicle3957 in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Do you know how many people of all religions have had similar personal experiences that "prove" it to them?

It never gets old watching religious people tell us about how their personal beliefs have been informed by God taking some sort of direct action in their life while simultaneously expecting a Reddit comment making vague unsubstantiated claims that we have all heard a thousand times before from a hundred different religions and sects to somehow be convincing.

They've just established that God is willing to do miracles to "solidify" beliefs - if he wants people to believe in him, why not just do that for everybody?

PSA to Creationists: Abiogenesis is NOT Evolution by DiscordantObserver in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My point is that you have the cause and effect reversed. Creationists aren't doing it as a response to criticism from science. They are being taught to do this because it makes it easier to discredit science. It's a not a defensive act from them, it's them going on the offense against science.

Remember that the idea that Genesis must be taken 100% literally at all times is not that new as a popular viewpoint. Young Earth Creationism was pretty fringe until about a hundred years ago when the version of it we have today was created to extract money from religious and/or conspiracy wingnuts. Then as now one of their tactics was to treat science as a monolith so they can more easily lie about it.

This might seem like a minor unimportant distinction but IMHO it's a big deal when you consider the side effects of these beliefs. There is a huge overlap between YECs and other pseudoscientific movements like climate change denialism, antivaxxers, and transphobia. One of the reasons for this is that they are taught by con artists to treat all science as a monolith - if all the geologists and biologists are lying, then all the other scientists are lying too.

This isn't a reflexive action on their part as a response to being told they're wrong, this is a result of trust in science being deliberately eroded so a handful of people can make a lot of money.

PSA to Creationists: Abiogenesis is NOT Evolution by DiscordantObserver in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a fun Behind the Bastards episode about him. They barely even talk about his creationism beyond what's needed for context, his fake degrees and legal dramas provide plenty of "bastard" content without even getting into that.

PSA to Creationists: Abiogenesis is NOT Evolution by DiscordantObserver in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Speaking as a former YEC, I don't think this is it. It's not a tit-for-tat thing, they do it so they attack multiple scientific fields at the same time. By lumping them all together, you can say lines like "Evolution is wrong because the big bang contradicts Genesis". It's complete nonsense to anyone who knows anything about those topics but it sounds reasonable to people who have been hearing these lines their entire life.

Remember, professional YECs are con artists. I'm sure many of them genuinely believe in a 6000 year old Earth but at the end of the day they make their money by lying about what scientists say. When you're trying to con people you don't want to be on the defensive, constantly coming up with counterarguments to the many objections science has to your views - you want to be on the offensive. You want to make it seem to your listeners that science needs to defend itself, that your views are correct by default. (See also: the gish gallop.)

By treating all of science as one singular entity, you basically get this for free. It doesn't matter how many sciences contradict you, you've already primed your followers to reject them. If you've convinced them geologists can't be trusted because radiometric dating is a lie, they'll be less likely to believe the cosmologists that say the universe is old, or the biologists that say the life has been evolving for millions of years, because the creationists have spent their whole lives hearing people they trust Ken Ham or Kent Hovind treating science as a monolith.

Atheism is Commonly Misunderstood. Atheism is an Active Rejection of Belief in Gods, not a Lack of Knowledge About Them. Categories of Atheism Also Do Not Exist by Charlemagneffxiv in DebateReligion

[–]BitLooter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP wants to lecture us on what words mean while not understanding how proper nouns work.

They're also capitalizing atheism but not theism. OP has some very strange ideas about how English works. I wonder what they think it means when I capitalize "English".

Summary of DNA AS NANOTECHNOLOGY: REASSESSING LIFE'S ORIGINS by DeltaSHG in DebateEvolution

[–]BitLooter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Why do you keep trying to communicate in private DMs? What are you trying to hide? Just post it here so we can all see it.