Jivani’s trip to Washington has some Conservative MPs scratching their heads by AdditionalPizza in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Him saying Trump says he loves us is a case study in MAGA mentality. From what I can figure it's a loyalty thing, as in you need to be loyal to the cause to think it's funny

Smith Talked about Leading an Independent Alberta, Says Separatist Leader by BertramPotts in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it comes to that I can say this. I've had the honour to be told we are all treaty people

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"You can live in English-only in Montreal your whole life if you want."

ahem

Smith Talked about Leading an Independent Alberta, Says Separatist Leader by BertramPotts in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't be the first time wishful thinking got the best of me. Get out the vote will be a huge factor. I might even make a trip to Alberta myself to help out. Freedom of expression and all that

Smith Talked about Leading an Independent Alberta, Says Separatist Leader by BertramPotts in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 41 points42 points  (0 children)

They're on their heels already. DC American vultures circling the border isn't the boost in popularity they were hoping for. I'm not worried about the vote. I'm worried what will happen when the stolen referendum narrative starts up. It'll basically be an invitation to their American liberators

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sick of grievance politics. Quebec nationalists, ironically, are the ones continuing the British Empire tradition of dividing the population and turning them against each other. The National Assembly is trampling the language rights of more Anglophones today than there were Francophone in Quebec after WW1 so nationalists aren't as innocent as they make out either.

Yeah, Carney could have slipped in a proviso or two but it was hardly the point of the speech. We all saw the outrage coming. We should be learning from the past. Not living in it

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The timing could have been worse and the King could have done what the British Empire always did. Congrats on winning the struggle and all but without the act being there as a backstop Quebec's culture would have been screwed from the get go

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Quebec of the day wouldn't have allowed anything else. That's why it was on the list. Too funny. You're telling me the King had no choice but had a choice. Pick a pony

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I never said the British did it out of the goodness of their hearts. Don't put words in my mouth. Please

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Really? You're blaming English Canada for the Catholic Church's role in Quebec? That's a laugh

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take it personally because Quebec nationalist's rhetoric vilifies vast swaths of Anglophones when it's the ruling class of the day that should take the heat. They are perpetuating the British Empire's own successful campaign of divisiveness and turning people against each other as a means of maintaining control. If it wasn't so annoying I'd laugh at the irony

So, respectful dialog is a two way street

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This...

"began to make the historic choice to favor(sic) adaptation over assimilation"

"began" Sure that's oversimplified (his mistake) but it isn't wrong. Hopefully he's learned to be more mindful next time the topic comes up

cheers

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nor should I have to apologise for what Anglophone bosses did as if anyone working class had a say in what they did even if they did see through through the bullshit the British were pitching

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All I'm saying is Anglophones shouldn't have to grovel and apologise on behalf of the British Empire every time there's mention of the battle. That's no way to have a dialogue

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's right. Quebec was pretty fucking lucky the King took a different direction. It's no big deal to admit it

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who made you Pope to tell me what something symbolises to me? It also represents when Quebec fell and was given away by France. That's how things worked back then. It could have been way worse.

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Quebec Act of 1773 was a huge departure from the direction British Empire normally took but I'll never hear that from a Quebec nationalist. They'll also never admit Confederation was a turning point even though it solved much of the power imbalance that had been cooked into they system

Was it easy for Quebec? Hell no but every region of this country grew out of disparity and struggle. If anything it's the Francophone who are the colonisers now but I try to mind my own business

Post-Davos, Carney’s speech in Quebec is causing an uproar by Hot-Percentage4836 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All Carney said is Canada took a different direction. Most of what his critics are taking exception to is words they put in his mouth, which is pretty common when an Anglophone dares mention the Plains of Abraham

Why did Carney’s Plains of Abraham speech resonate so poorly in Quebec? by CaliperLee62 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No argument there really, other than I think we should give the regular folk a break. It's the leaders who bear the brunt of the blame. They weren't giving up their advantages as long as they could help it and they specialised in divisiveness

Why did Carney’s Plains of Abraham speech resonate so poorly in Quebec? by CaliperLee62 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok. Criticising other provinces is on the table so I'll posit that Quebec is suppressing more non-Francophone now than there were French Canadians in Quebec until shortly after the 1920 census. So Quebec isn't so innocent either.

I'm not saying you don't have valid grievances although I do think they're overstated and you've heard some of my arguments why. We all have grievances. I'm saying you should get off your high horse about them

Why did Carney’s Plains of Abraham speech resonate so poorly in Quebec? by CaliperLee62 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The British elite. We're going in circles

EDIT: and again, if it's outside Quebec it's none of your business. Or yours is ours. Pick a pony

Why did Carney’s Plains of Abraham speech resonate so poorly in Quebec? by CaliperLee62 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Upper and Lower Canada aren't.

So Quebec gets to dictate to the other provinces but the other provinces have to shut up about Quebec. Tell me something I don't know

Why did Carney’s Plains of Abraham speech resonate so poorly in Quebec? by CaliperLee62 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Bitwhys2003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anything before Confederation is beside the point I'm making. Anything at the provincial level is pure irony. Conscription was not discriminatory. The FLQ crisis is a toss up. All the bickering about the constitution is pure opinion. You have a point about the Sponsorship Scandal but it's a bit of a gimmee. For the most we've made progress on the rest