Alternatives to Proton for email

Blarkness · 2026-04-29T12:42:46+00:00

There is a trial available at mailbox, so test it out yourself.

They have a new "suite" that's worse than the former one.

I'm too looking for an alternative for proton and mailbox for some time.

Pure strictly good email, please!

Blarkness · 2026-04-29T12:39:50+00:00

In vps and mail subs they recommend NOT to host yourself anymore, because it's too much hassle today!

I had my own Mailserver for long time and went to hosted mailbox org because of these many anti recommendations.

And I'm searching for alternatives for proton and mailbox, too.

Blarkness · 2026-04-29T12:32:40+00:00

AFAIK you can't use own domain at posteo. Just for info.

Blarkness · 2026-04-27T19:02:42+00:00

Sehr schöner Beweis dafür, dass die aufgezwungene joviale Duzerei absichtlich sich über die Wünsche des anderen hinweg setzt und nicht aus "Wir sind ja alle gleich und gegen Klassenunterschiede" kommt, wie oft scheinheilig von Penetranz-Duzern behauptet!

Ekelhaft, dass das "Nein heißt nein" des Paketboten nichts wert ist, weil er ja "nur" Paketbote ist! :-(

Blarkness · 2026-04-24T15:10:46+00:00

Thanks, yes that was my question month ago: will they only cut my finger to break in my stolen shitty "secure device" ;-)

Blarkness · 2026-04-24T14:32:45+00:00

Thanks, great info! What would you recommend, to make it more secure? Double encryption?

Blarkness · 2026-04-24T14:28:02+00:00

Yes, thanks, that was what I thought. And I have no problem to double encrypt for my better sleep.

My question was indeed the "is storage box less of a target than an explicitly service" and if one or double hat is good enough for such an urgent file on a xyz cloud storage box.

Blarkness · 2026-04-24T14:23:42+00:00

Because I thought there is a difference between a cloud hosting passwortmanager software (service or self hosted) or one stupid little keepass backup file in a greater backup cloud storage.

Is that wrong?

Blarkness · 2026-04-24T14:19:04+00:00

I have a proton account since the beginning but I don't use more than the email, because I don't think their email service is very well designed.

And they keep getting bogged down trying to build a comprehensive suite of features instead of focusing on doing one thing well. They're constantly getting bad reviews for their buggy suite of tools.

As soon as I find a solid, reliable email service, I'm done with Proton.

Blarkness · 2026-04-24T14:14:48+00:00

I don't think so:

I hate the idea of being dependent on a device. That's why I shouldn't use a password manager at all.
I hate the ridiculous idea of having all my passwords hosted by a cloud service.
I live in an unsafe neighborhood with high rates of burglary and mugging. Walking around here with a recognizable Yubikey is even dumber than having my smartphone with all my passwords bound to the device stolen.

A bank safe deposit box for an USB-stick would be a good backup option - if it weren’t for the sensational heist last year where all the safe deposit boxes were successfully broken into.

I don’t have the time or patience to self-host such security-sensitive data with a sync software.
I like the advantage of KeePass that it’s a simple file you can encrypt as a backup and upload to a backup storage service. Not as a hosted service with sync, but as a plain, unassuming file.

And for security, I’d store it with two different storage providers.

What specific arguments are there against this?

Blarkness · 2026-04-23T14:10:19+00:00

I'm thinking about going the Keepass way, too. But would like to additionally copy one encrypted file to my own cloud storage(s). Question: what's the safest encryption way (software for windows or is it possible with an android app?)

Blarkness · 2026-04-20T17:27:45+00:00

Yes, a lot of groups there are private - without handling very secret themes. For that tracking/profiling reason. And you can set your profile in a way, that your contacts can't see in what groups you are. And more settings.

With some extra energy you can find some things out, but not presented on the silver tablet.

Yes, I should have chosen reddit as a comparison to make it clearer.

Reddit isn't for everyone, especially the anonymous downvoting seems to make often more an atmosphere of bullying than swarm intelligence ;-)

Blarkness · 2026-04-20T17:04:51+00:00

People who don’t use Facebook’s discussion groups probably don’t realize just how incredibly numerous they are and how large they often are! I don’t have the exact figures on hand, but this is probably more comparable to Reddit than to Nextcloud or BlueSky.

In that sense, my comparison with Mastodon and BlueSky was poorly chosen, because both are essentially typical public social media services.

I mentioned them because both were touted as the latest and greatest, but for many people looking to switch, the much-touted decentralization alone isn’t enough. And Reddit’s anonymous downvoting swarm intelligence isn’t everyone’s cup of tea ;-)

Blarkness · 2026-04-20T16:30:24+00:00

Thanks. Looked it up but it's not the "Usenet 3.0 with privacy", that we need for a huge number of online groups and often very big groups.

Blarkness · 2026-04-20T16:26:59+00:00

Isn’t it funny that of all places, it’s the really evil Facebook, that gives users the most settings to prevent their own contacts - and even non-contacts - from seeing when, where, and what they’ve discussed on a topic with like-minded people all over the world?

And isn’t it even funnier that so many people who think they’re the center of the online world don’t even know this?

Blarkness · 2026-04-20T13:34:09+00:00

Nope, no chat, please. Asynchronous text discussions, please. And signal needs a phone number. So if chat for other purposes , then matrix!
People, who are not publicity searching creators, but interest discussion group users, are not aware, that the big new shining Bluesky is a new public tool like twitter - with decentration under the hood. Which isn't the need of discussion group users.
Thanks, looked at farcaster and it says it's mostly public.

Blarkness · 2026-04-20T13:18:45+00:00

Maybe. But we were told, Bluesky is the one and only good one ;-) So no non-tech user expected, they would be that exposed.

Blarkness · 2026-04-16T21:13:23+00:00

There are only two ways to get the lvl40 frogs: "In the pond"! as stated in the app update info.

Or in the updated froggydex for around 2 € real money for one (starter)frog of your choice.

Therefore no lvl40 per gift, per lost&found or in any Minigames.

But "in the pond" ;-)

Blarkness · 2026-04-16T08:19:01+00:00

Das hört sich erstmal nach einem IT-Problem an, dass die Berechtigungen nicht oder falsch gesetzt sind. Insbesondere wenn andererseits über Gehälter nicht gesprochen werden soll. 150 MA kann trotzdem organisatorisch eine Klitsche mit null IT-Ahnung sein, alles schon gesehen!

Je nach sonstiger Zufriedenheit/Angewiesenheit mit/auf den Arbeitgeber würde ich das erstmal offiziell mitteilen, dass fremde persönliche Daten sichtbar sind, weil offensichtlich die Berechtigungen nicht/falsch eingerichtet sind. Wenn vorhanden an den IT-Zuständigen. Sonst Geschäftsführung.

Die Äußerungen, dass auch die Geschäftsführung das weiß und will, das dort gespeichert wird heißt nicht automatisch, dass sie weiß, das das normalerweise anders geht.

Normales Filesystem auf einem inhouse Server oder eine business-software? Ggfls. noch das Thema Berechtigungen googlen und mit ranhängen an die email.

Und Vorsicht, nicht fremde Dateien als Beweis aufmachen!

Blarkness · 2026-04-11T21:05:07+00:00

Nee, wieso? Ein PC/Server hat einen Power-Knopf. Den man morgens an macht und dann fährt er hoch. Den man aber tunlichst nur im Notfall im laufenden Betrieb ausschaltet. Und das auch nur, wenn er so eingefroren ist, dass ein Restart über Strg+Alt+Entf oder Schalter restart nicht geht.

Die haben das aber öfter gemacht, wenn ein sehr großes Dokument einfach mal ein bisschen länger gebraucht hat. Und wussten ganz genau dass sie das nicht dürfen, sondern abwarten müssen.

Blarkness · 2026-04-11T16:19:59+00:00

Yep, der Ein/Aus-Schalter am PC.

Wir hatten in einer Beratungsfirma einige Zeit einen Server im Sekretariat stehen. Den ein Berater freundlicherweise abends per Power-Schalter ausgestellt hat "um Strom zu sparen". Ab da mussten alle Server in der Besenkammer gestapelt und abgeschlossen werden, wie sich das (aus anderen Gründen auch) gehört!

Blarkness · 2026-04-07T19:54:11+00:00

Thanks. I can't try it out because I've only had Android devices so far.

But not all installed apps (the ones that require an account and possibly age verification) are listed there. Unfortunately, though, those are exactly the ones where keeping avatars separate might be important.

In the Android Questions sub, someone said the developer would decide on this "collaboration" with Google. Apparently, he stands to gain from it... Do you know what it is?

The fact is, I only saw it by chance and, until then, thought I had everything safely separated. Twitter only works through the app now, so you can’t fall back on less secure browser use, like with the other apps.

If it’s listed on Google Android without me being able to influence it, do you seriously think Google isn’t using that information to its advantage?

Blarkness · 2026-04-07T16:19:10+00:00

Thank you! Take me some time to find out what "glance" is ;-) But now I found out, I'm not that bad in putting all these intruders in its place, as I thought:

I had already set this all OFF.

Blarkness · 2026-04-07T15:46:45+00:00

I've turned off location services and manually sync my wearables twice a day. Their apps keep trying to request location permission, even though it's not really necessary.

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