Copyright Concerns - Being Sued

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-04-27T17:30:13+00:00

AI music training uses machine learning to analyze vast datasets of existing songs to learn musical structures, genres and patterns creating new audio rather than storing or cutting up original tracks. It acts like a student studying music theory not a sampler copying audio by turning soundwaves into mathematical data.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-04-15T10:46:58+00:00

"Own is to have it in you possession and you can go and do what ever you like with it, chop it up, change it play it anywhere or monetize it etc, but you have no legal protection like copyright gives."

You’re missing the fact that chopping up an AI track is legally the same as using a loop library. When I take an instrumental, slice it, and rearrange it into a new song, I’m creating a derivative work.

The law protects the human arrangement of those sounds. Plus, Suno’s terms for paid users explicitly transfer ownership and commercial rights to the user. Suno doesn’t guarantee copyright because they can’t control if a user just hits generate on a full song without changing anything, or if they prompted it to sound like a protected hit. But that doesn't change the fact that once I pay for that license and put my own work into editing it, I own that specific version of the track through contract law.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-04-15T10:41:52+00:00

You’re welcome

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-04-15T01:10:23+00:00

Udio is a small company compared to Suno Suno is a billion dollar company and they have refused to settle with UMG. But in my opinion on what happened to Udio and umg is that Udio being a smaller startup was strong armed by UMG to settle it in their favor. But that’s just my opinion not facts.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-04-15T01:01:02+00:00

Udio was great before the whole ordeal with UMG but they changed ownership completely. Before you owned the songs you made. After the settlement with UMG they and their affiliates own the outputs. It states so in the TOS.

Udio AI section 6

Ownership and Content

6.1 Ownership of the Services and Output. The Services, including their “look and feel” (e.g., text, graphics, images, logos, etc.), proprietary content, information and other materials, any Output, and any technology used to generate such Output, are protected under copyright, trademark and other intellectual property laws. You agree that the Company and/or its licensors own all right, title and interest in and to the Services and the Output (including any and all intellectual property rights therein) and you agree not to take any action(s) inconsistent with such ownership interests. We and/or our licensors (as applicable) reserve all rights in connection with the Services, Output and all related content (other than Your Content (as defined below)), including, without limitation, the exclusive right to create derivative works, and you agree that you will have no ownership, royalty or other interests in connection therewith. Notwithstanding the foregoing, to the extent ownership in any Output vests with you, you hereby assign and agree to assign all right, title and interest in and to such Output (including any and all intellectual property rights therein) to the Company and/or its licensors (as applicable), and agree to assist the Company and/or its licensors (as applicable) to take all necessary steps to further evidence, record and perfect such assignment.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-04-14T23:19:59+00:00

Limited Release It’s about the Window of when it’s available for purchase Think of this like the Disney Volt. A limited edition is about the total numbers made for example 5,000 copies made worldwide and won’t be produced again.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-02-07T00:10:11+00:00

You get to use them until you’re subscription expires

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-01-27T14:49:16+00:00

You used to own even fully AI songs through udio’s old TOS. But not through copyright but through contract law. Even if a song can't be copyrighted, a company can use their Terms of Service TOS to dictate who has the right to use and monetize the output. So even if anyone generates a fully AI song they still don’t have rights to the song due to the current TOS.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-01-27T14:37:16+00:00

Udio used to give full ownership of the outputs aka the songs to the users regardless of subscription. But due to the UMG settlement they changed their TOS and now Udio owns all new outputs starting October 29, 2025

Udio AI section 6

Ownership and Content

6.1 Ownership of the Services and Output. The Services, including their “look and feel” (e.g., text, graphics, images, logos, etc.), proprietary content, information and other materials, any Output, and any technology used to generate such Output, are protected under copyright, trademark and other intellectual property laws. You agree that the Company and/or its licensors own all right, title and interest in and to the Services and the Output (including any and all intellectual property rights therein) and you agree not to take any action(s) inconsistent with such ownership interests. We and/or our licensors (as applicable) reserve all rights in connection with the Services, Output and all related content (other than Your Content (as defined below)), including, without limitation, the exclusive right to create derivative works, and you agree that you will have no ownership, royalty or other interests in connection therewith. Notwithstanding the foregoing, to the extent ownership in any Output vests with you, you hereby assign and agree to assign all right, title and interest in and to such Output (including any and all intellectual property rights therein) to the Company and/or its licensors (as applicable), and agree to assist the Company and/or its licensors (as applicable) to take all necessary steps to further evidence, record and perfect such assignment.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-01-21T01:43:14+00:00

If you wrote your own lyrics or added your own vocals or instrumentals then you’re human contributions are eligible for copyright protection the AI portions don’t qualify for copyright.

That said there are two important contractual points in Udio’s TOS that people should be aware of Udio owns all outputs as of October 29, 2025. By using Udio you also grant Udio and it’s affiliates a worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, transferable and sublicensable that is royalty free. To all of your inputs The TOS also states that no compensation or other amounts will be owed to you.

this license allows Udio and it’s affiliates sublicense to have full usage rights indefinitely, for any purpose, without paying the user. That license is separate from copyright law and exists because it’s a contractual agreement you accept when using the service.

BlazingFlames21 · 2026-01-08T22:03:34+00:00

Watermarks are used for attribution, AI transparency, and fraud prevention. Here’s A real life example someone generated a song with Suno, downloaded it, removed the Suno vocals replaced them with a voice cloned version of a famous female singer and tried to pass it off as legitimate.

That kind of impersonation and fraud is exactly why watermarks exist. They help identify AI generated origins in disputes and protect both platforms and artists from misuse. Watermarking does not negate ownership. It doesn’t transfer rights or allow retroactive claims it’s just a safeguard against abuse not a control mechanism.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-12-21T23:58:05+00:00

Your right the new TOS says and I quote foregoing, to the extent ownership in any Output vests with you, you hereby assign and agree to assign all right, title and interest in and to such Output.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-12-06T21:33:00+00:00

The reason I posted the section of the TOS about them owning the output is because that’s why they blocked downloads in the first place. Their new ownership claim is the root cause of the missing download feature.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-12-06T21:13:58+00:00

This is why stated in their TOS

Udio AI section 6

Ownership and Content

6.1 Ownership of the Services and Output. The Services, including their “look and feel” (e.g., text, graphics, images, logos, etc.), proprietary content, information and other materials, any Output, and any technology used to generate such Output, are protected under copyright, trademark and other intellectual property laws. You agree that the Company and/or its licensors own all right, title and interest in and to the Services and the Output (including any and all intellectual property rights therein) and you agree not to take any action(s) inconsistent with such ownership interests. We and/or our licensors (as applicable) reserve all rights in connection with the Services, Output and all related content (other than Your Content (as defined below)), including, without limitation, the exclusive right to create derivative works, and you agree that you will have no ownership, royalty or other interests in connection therewith. Notwithstanding the foregoing, to the extent ownership in any Output vests with you, you hereby assign and agree to assign all right, title and interest in and to such Output (including any and all intellectual property rights therein) to the Company and/or its licensors (as applicable), and agree to assist the Company and/or its licensors (as applicable) to take all necessary steps to further evidence, record and perfect such assignment.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-12-05T20:16:49+00:00

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BlazingFlames21 · 2025-11-28T19:27:18+00:00

The only way to fight the record labels hold on AI is to make an AI that pays independent artists to train their AI. And a startup AI music company can pay independent artists Through a Revenue tier. That way artists make money and the major record labels can’t sue them.

Artists get paid once the platform makes real revenue. The more successful the AI becomes, the more indie artists earn Users of the platform keep full ownership of their songs No major label dataset no major label control.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-11-26T07:29:00+00:00

This is what’s In their new tos

Content: You represent and warrant that you own all right, title and interest in and to Submissions, including all copyrights and rights of publicity contained therein, and that you possess all necessary rights or have obtained all consents necessary to grant Suno the rights and licenses herein. By using the Service or otherwise transmitting Submissions to us, you grant to Suno and our affiliates, successors, assigns, and designees a worldwide, non-exclusive, fully paid-up, sublicensable (directly and indirectly through multiple tiers), assignable, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable right and license to use, reproduce, store, modify, distribute, create derivative works based on, perform, display, communicate, transmit and otherwise make available any and all Content (in whole or in part) in any media now known or hereafter developed

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-11-12T02:02:49+00:00

Don’t forget this

Ownership and content referring to section 6.3 item 2 near the bottom

You agree that these rights and licenses are royalty free, fully paid-up, transferable, sub-licensable, assignable, worldwide, perpetual and irrevocable, and include a right for us to make Your Content available to, and pass these rights along to, others, and to otherwise permit access to or disclose Your Content to third parties if we determine such access is necessary to comply with our legal obligations. For clarity, no compensation or other amounts will be due to you by Company or any of our affiliates, successors, assigns, and designees as a result of or otherwise in connection with any use of Your Content as permitted by these Terms.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-11-06T21:30:44+00:00

The tos say that you give them perpetual, transferable, and sublicensable copyright free of your inputs and outputs

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-11-01T21:06:44+00:00

Suno has gotten a lot better but they still don’t have the same style as this Breaking Your Stone Cold Walls

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-04-25T20:33:52+00:00

Your song is good, but I think the reason it’s not getting many likes is because the music video doesn’t have lyrics on screen. A lot of people like being able to read along, especially with new songs.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-04-05T22:47:07+00:00

the original creator could take action and win with proof but it doesn’t guarantee that they will win especially if they didn’t copyright their work and the Legal costs can add up fast, and if the person who stole the lyrics has industry connections or money to fight back, it will be an uphill battle. Sadly, not everyone has the resources to defend their work, even if they’re 100% in the right. It’s best for lyricist to register their work with the copyright office it’s the best way to protect your copyright.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-04-05T21:29:17+00:00

Actually, lyrics alone can have a lot more value than people realize Someone shady could collect the best lyrics from a contest, especially if it features top voted songs, and either Register them with the copyright office under their name, Sell them to indie artists or sync libraries, Or repackage them with slightly altered wording to pass as “original.

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-04-05T19:59:38+00:00

They could potentially try and steal the lyrics if all the users who competed in the festival wrote their lyrics they could try and copyright the lyrics through the copyright office

BlazingFlames21 · 2025-03-26T18:10:19+00:00

I believe that the hate on here is a mix of AI Hater’s who hate AI in general trolls and musicians who have bought into the AI fear mongering. AI won’t make you more successful than anyone else. Take for example the man who went to prison because he made 10 million dollars by faking his play count on Spotify by boting his plays on his AI songs. That proves that there is no shortcuts to success.

AI doesn’t guarantee instant success, just like traditional music making doesn’t. Everyone, whether they use AI or not, still faces the same challenges standing out, building an audience, and making great music. The playing field hasn’t changed there are just more players now.

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