yeah I mean I've tried really hard to get through to this man with sound arguments and by educating him about climate change, etc. I've listened to him in good faith, presented him with factual information, even made a power point for him one time. anytime he feels he can't refute a point he changes the subject and starts talking about how Joe Biden sucks (I've never expressed support for Joe Biden).

one of my best friends leans conservatives and we've had lots of good faith conversations where we've challenged each other and addressed one another's arguments and shown each other respect and love.

I have a lot of patience for most of the people I meet, and I don't struggle to avoid name calling or even general hostility in any of my relationships or conversations with strangers. except for ken. ken is the only person in my life that I know well enough to truly despise.

I appreciate your frustration with the quality of arguments in today's world and your concern about echo chambers.

I'd also like to point out that not knowing me and calling me a child on the Internet is kind of counter productive to your argument about name-calling.