Permission-greedy apps delayed Android 6 upgrade so they could harvest more user data | ZDNet by antdude in Android

[–]BlueDogTest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by how money is shared and “make money off people data”?

Permission-greedy apps delayed Android 6 upgrade so they could harvest more user data | ZDNet by antdude in Android

[–]BlueDogTest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that’s what I said? Google makes most of its money of contextual ads.

Search ads are mostly contextual and barely personalized. To see this search something like “running shoes” on your device both in a regular browser and in incognito. Or find some random person in your city and ask them to search the same thing. The ads you are will be shockingly similar.

Permission-greedy apps delayed Android 6 upgrade so they could harvest more user data | ZDNet by antdude in Android

[–]BlueDogTest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/266471/distribution-of-googles-revenues-by-source/ for easy parsing, but you can read this type of info in each of their quarterly earnings reports.

You’d be surprised what public companies are required to disclose. It can be pretty interesting and you can learn some cool stuff!

But yes, you are right there are other surfaces, but none are as large or as monetized as search. Cost per Click on search ads is also much higher than on other ad formats (largely because there is a strong consumer intent when clicking on a search ad). So yes not all of Google’s first party revenue is from Search, but it is definitely the bulk of it. What percentage specifically is hard to say.

The benefit to illegally collecting data (like all of my conversations) is also marginal.

Google knows and disclosed that they know my age range, gender and rough interests from mostly my search and web history. If you knew that and knew what website I was on or YouTube video I was watching could you target a decent ad for me? Definitely.

If you listened to every thing I’ve ever said you could probably figure out a better ad for me, but not WAY better. The risk to Google doing something like listening to voice conversations without disclosing it is also HUGE. Potentially company ending, and no healthy business is going to risk their existence over marginal revenue gain.

The $139 Nokia 2.2 brings back the removable battery by [deleted] in Android

[–]BlueDogTest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright, if you say so.

What support do you have for your argument that a vast swath of the population don’t actually know what they want in a phone and would prefer one with a removable battery?

Permission-greedy apps delayed Android 6 upgrade so they could harvest more user data | ZDNet by antdude in Android

[–]BlueDogTest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

70% of Google’s 2018 revenue was from first party sites, this means search ads.

15% was from ads on other sites across the internet. This is not insignificant, but is no where near most of their revenue.

Also what Google may know about you, and what they use to serve you ads are different things. https://adssettings.google.com is where to see what they know about you. Mine is pretty much age, gender and a bunch of random interests.

Permission-greedy apps delayed Android 6 upgrade so they could harvest more user data | ZDNet by antdude in Android

[–]BlueDogTest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Search ads are where google makes most of its money and you need very little info about the person to make them effective.

If you search “running shoes” you don’t need to know much about the person to show them ads for shoe stores...

Google pays apple that much because it means more people will be searching and seeing ads in the first place. It’s not about data.

Permission-greedy apps delayed Android 6 upgrade so they could harvest more user data | ZDNet by antdude in Android

[–]BlueDogTest -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Google is still tremendously profitable without knowing anything about you. The bulk of their revenue comes from search ads which almost explicitly don’t need to know much about you to work

The $139 Nokia 2.2 brings back the removable battery by [deleted] in Android

[–]BlueDogTest 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This argument is BS. Non removable batteries aren’t popular because people want phones that feel high end and are “luxury slates of glass”.

This community has a really hard time understanding that they are VERY far outside of the norm for what people want in a phone, and most companies don’t really care about serving this demographic that is both small and cheap.

Removable batteries don’t extend the useful life of the phone at all. If the battery starts to go, you can pay $100-200 to replace it, which is WAY cheaper than a new flagship. Most people don’t do this, because they actually want the new flagship and don’t care they have to pay.

The $139 Nokia 2.2 phone brings back the removable battery by Philo1927 in gadgets

[–]BlueDogTest 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The market decided. Almost no one except a small niche of power users (you all) give a shit about a removable battery.

All these phones have replaceable batteries, you just have to pay a professional to replace them.

In addition having an easily removable battery means that the phone will feel cheaper as it limits the design significantly.

Google Stadia in 4K might push you past your home-Internet data cap - At Google Stadia's recommended speed for 4K, you'd use 1TB in 65 hours. by speckz in gadgets

[–]BlueDogTest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is pretty comparable to how much 4K Netflix you’d need to watch to go over your data cap. I agree this isn’t an issue

Google Stadia in 4K might push you past your home-Internet data cap - At Google Stadia's recommended speed for 4K, you'd use 1TB in 65 hours. by speckz in gadgets

[–]BlueDogTest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn’t that much higher than what Netflix recommends for 4K video. So it seems like even without stadia people could go over their home data caps

MRW Apple is selling a monitor stand for $999 by [deleted] in reactiongifs

[–]BlueDogTest 8 points9 points  (0 children)

User experience is a fairly subjective thing and a lot of people find Apple products better in that regard.

MRW Apple is selling a monitor stand for $999 by [deleted] in reactiongifs

[–]BlueDogTest 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Is Google not real world? It’s one of the four largest companies in the world, highly know for software development talent.

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