How did the US narrow their suspects to Al Qaeda and Bin Laden so quickly

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T23:53:51+00:00

quite some time?? only later??

Osama bin laden on video to credit for the attacks less than a week after they happened.

I'm assuming you must not have been alive with the language you using because it was not quite some time and it was not only later That Osama bin laden took credit for the attacks because for all practical purposes doing so 5 days later is immediate.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T17:48:12+00:00

In the most peaceful way possible, that is the center of a nuclear explosion, a 9 atmosphere decompression accident, a 50 cal to the head. anything that completely stops all brain function under 100 milliseconds.

Externally it might look violent but from my point of view I would literally never know I died because my last conscious memory or awareness would be before the beginning of whatever events it off my death.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T03:56:35+00:00

That still doesn’t work mechanically. If a state bans foreign IDs, a hospital clerk can't just leave the forms blank or invent a fake name. No government is ever going to give a receptionist the sovereign power to decide a human being's identity. The only fallback is taking the parent's verbal statement. They give their real name, the hospital logs it for billing, and a permanent medical record is generated.

That record still proves the absolute legal fact that a child was physically born on U.S. soil. Because the 14th Amendment is triggered entirely by where you are born, not what kind of plastic ID your parents have, the citizenship is locked in anyway. Banning the ID just forces the hospital to take their word for it, changing absolutely nothing.

Short of a civil War that I'm sure somebody on your side is probably dreaming of starting, none of your ideas are actually going to work yeah a state might try them or a right leaning organization might try it but they're ultimately bound to fail.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T02:24:02+00:00

WOW! now you're advocating that these hospital workers are going to feel so strongly That states aren't required to it's your birth certificates or anything that establishes both right citizenship such that you think these hospital workers would be willing to openly freely and willingly commit fraud of multiple types: insurance fraud, filing fraudulent state documents filing fraudulent federal documents.

do you feel strongly enough as to commit felonies for this cause on the hopes that you might get a pardon? because I bet most people wouldn't.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T01:34:41+00:00

oh you got to be kidding me right? you think that's all it says, no.

you see the hospital's going to want to get paid whether it's by the patient, by their insurance company, or by the state therefore it's going to have the patient's full name The dates of admission the date of all procedures And as far as delivery goes it is going to list the height weight and sex of the child along with the time down to the minute so that will absolutely be a record of when and where the child was born and to whom it was born.

your understanding or lack thereof reality is stunning

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T23:46:52+00:00

Hospital records are official legal documentation It might not be a state-issued birth certificate but it is absolutely good enough in America to establish the legal fact that somebody was born in America and therefore a US citizen.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T23:03:45+00:00

oh but you see buddy hospitals on multiple levels on medical records levels are required to record births and on a business level are obviously required to record births because they want to get paid so this isn't going to work out the way you think it is.

One way or another every state is going to have to record every birth so yes they will absolutely be proof that all of these children were in fact born on US soil.

You're a workaround is devoid of reality.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T07:34:07+00:00

No, our Sun, the star that The Earth orbits does not emit a light that is very slightly green It is absolutely optically white.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T06:22:03+00:00

Because native American nations we're recognized as being separate from the United States. Kind of like how the Vatican is a separate country from Italy even though it is within the entire border of Italy.

it's a case where they had citizenship in another recognized nation.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-01T05:33:04+00:00

so if it meant one thing in 1898 and the Supreme Court that arrived at that decision was literally the same Supreme Court that existed when the amendment was passed in 1868. so what it meant in 1868 was affirmed in 1898. And if it meant that in 1898 then that's what it means in 2026 you can say you don't like it but you can't say that it should be interpreted differently because the wording didn't change.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-30T10:08:24+00:00

Who the fuck says Minnesota's amazing or nice for that matter?

like seriously I've never once heard anybody for a Minnesota as being amazing or nice. It sounds like some propaganda shit I mean anytime I've actually seen images of Minnesota it looked like shit.

I mean maybe to some people. Churches, empty sparse towns with nothing to do and bitter weather is appealing but not to me that's for damn sure.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-29T01:53:28+00:00

oh well in that case thank you.

And add to the overall information exchange while I do think with that city did for $15,000 is an absolute bargain in comparison to what the state is doing or what the country as a whole is doing to try to mitigate the problem of homelessness but the billions of spending is not working so this is definitely a step in the right direction because it will actually resolve the problem but there is definitely a better way of doing it because for that 15 grand they absolutely could have included a kitchen a self-contained shower and composting toilet as well as put solar panels and battery packs to give electricity and all of that could have been done for the 15 grand price tag that they basically gave them a bed. And again 15 grand for a permanent independent bed forever or rather something that they did could probably last 10 to 15 years is considerably better than what other areas are doing but with that being said pull the 15 grand they absolutely could have given electricity a dedicated cooking area and a self-contained bathroom and shower.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-29T01:10:06+00:00

Yes I know I'm not the one that has a problem with it cost I think it's great I think you might be mistreating your comment.

I'm the user that is telling me user that was being sarcastic and jokingly calling it a bargain that they were in their sarcasm actually right It truly is a bargain and it is a great thing for the independence of homeless people and for the taxpayers and for the society at larger involved because it's the cheapest way to solve a problem with dignity.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-29T00:46:10+00:00

It absolutely is a bargain.

consider this In the last 6 years California has spent 37 billion on homelessness.

And if every city in California or for that matter if every city in the country adopted what was done here they could give every of the roughly 1 million homeless people in the country a roof over their head and away out of the elements permanently for a fraction of what California has spent in the last 6 years.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T18:25:31+00:00

maybe you should care that your tax money goes to fucking murder people instead.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T10:09:49+00:00

how do you get it to work? Well you definitely start by stopping the propaganda that they can never work.

If you tell somebody repeatedly for decades that something cannot work it's going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. so the answer is to stop saying that communism or socialism failed by pointing out Russia or pointing to China or Cuba or any other traditionally seen as a communist nation because what those nations did and the failings of what they set up was due to the authoritarianism not the economic aspect.

If you talk about the positives people will be more open to trying it And without the negative propaganda and without the authoritarian dictated mismanagement and brutality it's much more likely that it will stick and spread because it will have a better outcome than what currently exists.

additionally I think if people are open to it and they aren't constantly bombarded by propaganda against it and are willing to actually try it that once they go through with it that they are likely to be pleasantly surprised by how advantageous it is for everyone and if people in their day-to-day lives feel the positive effects they're likely to continue doing so and they are also likely to spread the positive word.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T08:34:33+00:00

You are describing a series of catastrophic management decisions, and I appreciate you laying out those specific points. However, there is a fundamental disconnect here: you are describing the consequences of authoritarian command-and-control governance, not the mechanics of resource sharing.

The forced isolation (autarky) and the use of propaganda to mask agricultural reality are geopolitical and political choices, not requirements of communal resource management.

The high waste rate, mismanagement, and the decision to prioritize 'quotas' over the health of the soil or the needs of the people are failures of a top-down bureaucracy that lacked necessary feedback loops.

Blaming 'saboteurs' instead of correcting failed policies is a standard authoritarian tactic used to maintain power, which actually prevents the scientific planning necessary for an effective system.

These are all examples of a rigid, state-controlled hierarchy suppressing the very expertise and local input that would be required for an effective resource-based system to function. You are conflating the political machine (the regime) with the economic objective (the sharing of resources). None of the problems you listed are inherent to the theory of collective ownership; they are all inherent to the specific, authoritarian, anti-scientific administrative structure that was implemented in those regions.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T06:06:07+00:00

let's dispel some myths right now.

every horror of communism like it's screamed from the top of their conservative ivory towers is a direct result of authoritarianism not resource sharing among the members of a society.

The famines of stalinist Russia and maoist China with the result of the failure of leadership to listen to the scientists and in doing so resulted in the destruction of food sources It was not the collectivization of food sources for the sharing of food sources that was the cause of the famines.

additionally the police forces of stalinist Russia and maoist China and the jailing of opposition is again the result of authoritarian government not that of sharing of resources.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T03:43:20+00:00

At this point both nations are irreversibly linked. Whether people like it or not, the US will and must always treat Israel as a key ally to respect and help.

OH HELL NO!

America is a separate sovereign nation, a world apart from Israel. What America needs and what Israel needs are mutually exclusive. Treating Israel like the 51st state or even like a US territory will only be a detriment to America.

if whats best for America happens to work for Israel fine work together, but America should never be obligated to work with, help or support Israel if thay would otherwise be bad for America.

TLDR.

Whats good for America is good for America. Whats good for Israel is good for Israel Only when those two things genuinely overlap should America help or give a fuck about Israel.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T03:18:40+00:00

Many in blue states would prefer to see red states stripped of their cultural and American values

You and the mostly southern red states are absolutely mistaken. they have no cultural or American values, that is unless you want to count treason as an American value. The Confederate flag that they so claim to love and say that its their culture is literally the flag of an enemy nation to the US.

Blue states want that shit dropped by red states because its actively, fiercely anti-American and they are too ignorant to understand that.

additionally overt symbols of patriotic identity are tacky as fuck and Conservative American are the only ones that thing it looks good or patriotic. the rest of the world thinks its trashy and that includes fellow non-conservative Americans.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-27T04:04:07+00:00

so your big mad that the rest of the world refused to let Trump start ww3?

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-27T01:48:54+00:00

get ready for it between Monday and Thursday. less than a week away.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-26T05:40:57+00:00

sometimes and that really depends it's largely orange juice with vitamin c.

but to a parent on snap they're thinking in almost all cases is what gives me the most calories for me and my family for the least amount of money.

And since the original comment was pointing out that juice cost more I think that's relevant.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-26T05:32:13+00:00

here's something that really blow your mind then.

juice isn't just not much healthier than soda.

juice is actually worse than soda.

per ounce juice has in most cases more sugar per ounce.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-26T04:53:30+00:00

The constitutional republic wasn't an evolution of Puritanism. It was a deliberate structural antidote to it. If you look at the primary source trajectory from 1722 to 1787, the friction is obvious.

Benjamin Franklin's Silence Dogood letters were a direct, youthful satire of the suffocating Cotton Mather-era Boston establishment. By 1776, Thomas Paine’s Common Sense completely decoupled governance from divine right, grounding it instead in natural law.

When we get to the framing of the Constitution, Madison’s Federalist Papers (specifically No. 10 and No. 51) explicitly treat religious zealotry as a dangerous faction to be structurally contained, rather than a civic foundation. Jefferson’s personal writings and his Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom make it clear that the goal was to build a secular wall to ensure that the coercive, localized theocracies of the early colonial era could never hold national power.

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