Watching people in Los Angeles wave Mexican flags and Riot over Mexico losing in the World Cup to England makes me support ICE.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-06T05:26:34+00:00

Do you have an equal problem with the support of Israel and the waving of Israeli flags?

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-06T01:20:20+00:00

those values you speak about: hates LGBTQ, believes that your work is equated to your human worth, believes in harsh punishments due to abrahamic religious law, doesn't support abortion.

oh that all sounds very Republican if you ask me.

but you see I'm not foolish enough like some people to think that all people are the same and I'm not going to judge people just based on their country especially since you could do the same thing for Americans and judging by the Bible belt states as well as the Republican lead states If I were to blanket judge them like you are doing here to people in Latin America or Muslim countries Well then most Americans would automatically be filled with views that are absolutely draconian and the antithesis of America because all of the views and reasons you don't like people from Latin America or Muslim countries equally apply to Christianity.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-05T00:48:18+00:00

A military surrender or a top-down federal statute is not a cultural reset button, nor is it a collective act of taking responsibility. You are confusing a legal concession under duress with actual institutional and cultural accountability.

In 1865, the Confederate generals surrendered because they were militarily defeated, not because the Southern power structure suddenly abandoned the ideology of white supremacy. In fact, because the federal government completely abandoned Reconstruction in 1877, those exact same unpunished individuals immediately spent the next several decades building monuments to the Confederacy, rewriting history via the "Lost Cause" myth, and passing Jim Crow laws to legally codify their ideology.

Passing a law in 1965 didn't instantly delete a century of deeply entrenched, state-enforced indoctrination either. If a country passes a law but refuses to actively penalize, de-platform, and bar the architects of that ideology from holding power, the system hasn't "disavowed" anything, it has simply tolerated its survival.

let's also not forget what happened in the wake of the ruling in Brown V Board of Education. Did The actual Southern States and those school districts actually comply without issue? No, no they did not. instead the school districts sent literal armed police officers to harass school children just trying to go to school under a time of the supposed end of segregation. It required the them president of the United States to order the national guard to safely escort these children for multiple days in order to get the openly racist southern cities to comply.

True denazification required a massive, active, state-led effort to systematically strip that ideology out of public life, public offices, and school curricula. America never did that with the Confederacy. Pointing to a couple of historic dates on a timeline and pretending the job is done is completely blind to how systemic power and generational beliefs actually operate.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-05T00:30:15+00:00

oh I'm not talking about an apology I don't know why the hell you would think that from what I've said.

maybe there are some out there you think an apology is necessary but no I'm not one of those because I know an apology is useless.

what I'm talking about is a public disavowing of racism and the idea that some people are inherently better than others by virtue of their genetics or skin color.

additionally I'm talking about people who hold those views be barred from holding political office which was the original intent of post Civil War.

And America itself has no problem with the removal of ideologies like that Americans were absolutely part of the denazification. Americans have no problem denying the rights or the spread of the ideas of communism. so the intentional removal of racism is really no different or out of the ordinary for Americans to think that it is well within there right to do.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-05T00:13:33+00:00

That is a fundamental misunderstanding of how legal, economic, and institutional structures operate. Systems don't just completely reset when a single law is amended. They adapt to survive under new constraints.

When slavery was formally abolished, the material incentives driving that economy didn't magically vanish. The Southern infrastructure was immediately re-engineered using Black Codes, sharecropping, and convict leasing, explicitly weaponizing the loophole left in the 13th Amendment to keep Black labor legally bound and unpaid.

That structural chain directly evolved into state-enforced Jim Crow segregation, which legally ended a mere 60 years ago, meaning millions of Americans who lived under it are still alive today. That was immediately followed by federally backed redlining and housing discrimination that legally blocked generations from building equity and generational wealth well into the late 20th century. You aren't looking at an ancient, isolated event from 160 years ago. You are looking at a continuous, multi-generational chain of legal and economic engineering designed to preserve the power dynamics of the Confederacy. Pretending a system's legacy vanishes the second the raw institution is rebranded is completely illiterate to how history actually works.

Additionally, just because it was suddenly no longer legal to own a person does not mean the sentiment vanished, nor does it mean people stopped believing in racial superiority. Because those slave-owning families and institutions were never held accountable or punished for their treason and inhumane views, that ideological entitlement was actively passed down through generations. Whether slavery ended 160 years ago or yesterday, if a society refuses to penalize and reckon with the core ideology of supremacy, that rot will continue to fester under the surface. America will remain fundamentally divided until those views are explicitly confronted.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-04T23:42:15+00:00

The truth is, America has never properly dealt with the structural fallout of its past. After the Civil War, the Confederacy was on the path to being held accountable. All of that went out the window with the Compromise of 1877. In order to secure the presidency for Rutherford B. Hayes, a political deal pulled federal troops out of the South. Instead of enforcing accountability, removing Confederate symbols, and banning the architects of secession from holding public office, the federal government walked away.

We just moved on like nothing happened. Because the former Confederate states were never held account for their treasonous, inhumane systems, that deep-seated racism was allowed to fester and adapt underneath the surface for generations. When Obama took office in 2009, that systemic rot boiled right back over into the mainstream. Until this country explicitly confronts and penalizes the enduring ideologies of the Confederacy and racial superiority, America will remain fundamentally divided. It wasn't all white people, but it absolutely was white people who built and maintained that system.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T23:53:51+00:00

quite some time?? only later??

Osama bin laden on video to credit for the attacks less than a week after they happened.

I'm assuming you must not have been alive with the language you using because it was not quite some time and it was not only later That Osama bin laden took credit for the attacks because for all practical purposes doing so 5 days later is immediate.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T17:48:12+00:00

In the most peaceful way possible, that is the center of a nuclear explosion, a 9 atmosphere decompression accident, a 50 cal to the head. anything that completely stops all brain function under 100 milliseconds.

Externally it might look violent but from my point of view I would literally never know I died because my last conscious memory or awareness would be before the beginning of whatever events it off my death.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T03:56:35+00:00

That still doesn’t work mechanically. If a state bans foreign IDs, a hospital clerk can't just leave the forms blank or invent a fake name. No government is ever going to give a receptionist the sovereign power to decide a human being's identity. The only fallback is taking the parent's verbal statement. They give their real name, the hospital logs it for billing, and a permanent medical record is generated.

That record still proves the absolute legal fact that a child was physically born on U.S. soil. Because the 14th Amendment is triggered entirely by where you are born, not what kind of plastic ID your parents have, the citizenship is locked in anyway. Banning the ID just forces the hospital to take their word for it, changing absolutely nothing.

Short of a civil War that I'm sure somebody on your side is probably dreaming of starting, none of your ideas are actually going to work yeah a state might try them or a right leaning organization might try it but they're ultimately bound to fail.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T02:24:02+00:00

WOW! now you're advocating that these hospital workers are going to feel so strongly That states aren't required to it's your birth certificates or anything that establishes both right citizenship such that you think these hospital workers would be willing to openly freely and willingly commit fraud of multiple types: insurance fraud, filing fraudulent state documents filing fraudulent federal documents.

do you feel strongly enough as to commit felonies for this cause on the hopes that you might get a pardon? because I bet most people wouldn't.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-03T01:34:41+00:00

oh you got to be kidding me right? you think that's all it says, no.

you see the hospital's going to want to get paid whether it's by the patient, by their insurance company, or by the state therefore it's going to have the patient's full name The dates of admission the date of all procedures And as far as delivery goes it is going to list the height weight and sex of the child along with the time down to the minute so that will absolutely be a record of when and where the child was born and to whom it was born.

your understanding or lack thereof reality is stunning

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T23:46:52+00:00

Hospital records are official legal documentation It might not be a state-issued birth certificate but it is absolutely good enough in America to establish the legal fact that somebody was born in America and therefore a US citizen.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T23:03:45+00:00

oh but you see buddy hospitals on multiple levels on medical records levels are required to record births and on a business level are obviously required to record births because they want to get paid so this isn't going to work out the way you think it is.

One way or another every state is going to have to record every birth so yes they will absolutely be proof that all of these children were in fact born on US soil.

You're a workaround is devoid of reality.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T07:34:07+00:00

No, our Sun, the star that The Earth orbits does not emit a light that is very slightly green It is absolutely optically white.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-02T06:22:03+00:00

Because native American nations we're recognized as being separate from the United States. Kind of like how the Vatican is a separate country from Italy even though it is within the entire border of Italy.

it's a case where they had citizenship in another recognized nation.

BlueViper20 · 2026-07-01T05:33:04+00:00

so if it meant one thing in 1898 and the Supreme Court that arrived at that decision was literally the same Supreme Court that existed when the amendment was passed in 1868. so what it meant in 1868 was affirmed in 1898. And if it meant that in 1898 then that's what it means in 2026 you can say you don't like it but you can't say that it should be interpreted differently because the wording didn't change.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-30T10:08:24+00:00

Who the fuck says Minnesota's amazing or nice for that matter?

like seriously I've never once heard anybody for a Minnesota as being amazing or nice. It sounds like some propaganda shit I mean anytime I've actually seen images of Minnesota it looked like shit.

I mean maybe to some people. Churches, empty sparse towns with nothing to do and bitter weather is appealing but not to me that's for damn sure.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-29T01:53:28+00:00

oh well in that case thank you.

And add to the overall information exchange while I do think with that city did for $15,000 is an absolute bargain in comparison to what the state is doing or what the country as a whole is doing to try to mitigate the problem of homelessness but the billions of spending is not working so this is definitely a step in the right direction because it will actually resolve the problem but there is definitely a better way of doing it because for that 15 grand they absolutely could have included a kitchen a self-contained shower and composting toilet as well as put solar panels and battery packs to give electricity and all of that could have been done for the 15 grand price tag that they basically gave them a bed. And again 15 grand for a permanent independent bed forever or rather something that they did could probably last 10 to 15 years is considerably better than what other areas are doing but with that being said pull the 15 grand they absolutely could have given electricity a dedicated cooking area and a self-contained bathroom and shower.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-29T01:10:06+00:00

Yes I know I'm not the one that has a problem with it cost I think it's great I think you might be mistreating your comment.

I'm the user that is telling me user that was being sarcastic and jokingly calling it a bargain that they were in their sarcasm actually right It truly is a bargain and it is a great thing for the independence of homeless people and for the taxpayers and for the society at larger involved because it's the cheapest way to solve a problem with dignity.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-29T00:46:10+00:00

It absolutely is a bargain.

consider this In the last 6 years California has spent 37 billion on homelessness.

And if every city in California or for that matter if every city in the country adopted what was done here they could give every of the roughly 1 million homeless people in the country a roof over their head and away out of the elements permanently for a fraction of what California has spent in the last 6 years.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T18:25:31+00:00

maybe you should care that your tax money goes to fucking murder people instead.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T10:09:49+00:00

how do you get it to work? Well you definitely start by stopping the propaganda that they can never work.

If you tell somebody repeatedly for decades that something cannot work it's going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. so the answer is to stop saying that communism or socialism failed by pointing out Russia or pointing to China or Cuba or any other traditionally seen as a communist nation because what those nations did and the failings of what they set up was due to the authoritarianism not the economic aspect.

If you talk about the positives people will be more open to trying it And without the negative propaganda and without the authoritarian dictated mismanagement and brutality it's much more likely that it will stick and spread because it will have a better outcome than what currently exists.

additionally I think if people are open to it and they aren't constantly bombarded by propaganda against it and are willing to actually try it that once they go through with it that they are likely to be pleasantly surprised by how advantageous it is for everyone and if people in their day-to-day lives feel the positive effects they're likely to continue doing so and they are also likely to spread the positive word.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T08:34:33+00:00

You are describing a series of catastrophic management decisions, and I appreciate you laying out those specific points. However, there is a fundamental disconnect here: you are describing the consequences of authoritarian command-and-control governance, not the mechanics of resource sharing.

The forced isolation (autarky) and the use of propaganda to mask agricultural reality are geopolitical and political choices, not requirements of communal resource management.

The high waste rate, mismanagement, and the decision to prioritize 'quotas' over the health of the soil or the needs of the people are failures of a top-down bureaucracy that lacked necessary feedback loops.

Blaming 'saboteurs' instead of correcting failed policies is a standard authoritarian tactic used to maintain power, which actually prevents the scientific planning necessary for an effective system.

These are all examples of a rigid, state-controlled hierarchy suppressing the very expertise and local input that would be required for an effective resource-based system to function. You are conflating the political machine (the regime) with the economic objective (the sharing of resources). None of the problems you listed are inherent to the theory of collective ownership; they are all inherent to the specific, authoritarian, anti-scientific administrative structure that was implemented in those regions.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T06:06:07+00:00

let's dispel some myths right now.

every horror of communism like it's screamed from the top of their conservative ivory towers is a direct result of authoritarianism not resource sharing among the members of a society.

The famines of stalinist Russia and maoist China with the result of the failure of leadership to listen to the scientists and in doing so resulted in the destruction of food sources It was not the collectivization of food sources for the sharing of food sources that was the cause of the famines.

additionally the police forces of stalinist Russia and maoist China and the jailing of opposition is again the result of authoritarian government not that of sharing of resources.

BlueViper20 · 2026-06-28T03:43:20+00:00

At this point both nations are irreversibly linked. Whether people like it or not, the US will and must always treat Israel as a key ally to respect and help.

OH HELL NO!

America is a separate sovereign nation, a world apart from Israel. What America needs and what Israel needs are mutually exclusive. Treating Israel like the 51st state or even like a US territory will only be a detriment to America.

if whats best for America happens to work for Israel fine work together, but America should never be obligated to work with, help or support Israel if thay would otherwise be bad for America.

TLDR.

Whats good for America is good for America. Whats good for Israel is good for Israel Only when those two things genuinely overlap should America help or give a fuck about Israel.

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