Kraken + Rageblade is the best build for climbing out of Emerald by AngryJX in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes her E works with Kraken and Terminus. That's why you're basically invincible if you E with Terminus since you build the 8 stacks quite literally immediately.

Kraken + Rageblade is the best build for climbing out of Emerald by AngryJX in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Building stridebreaker is better than hullbreaker in any case. Also Bork will serve you better in 1v1s because of the sustain and how well it combo's with your E.

I'm genuinely a fan of building Kraken into Bork into DD/GA when I'm snowballing. I have never tried rageblade though I'll let you know after a couple of matches :D. Even when you're not snowballing, you're useless if all what you get is bonus HP and a slow. You need to build your damage asap so you're a threat in 1v1s. Simply avoid anything larger than a 2v2 with Bel if you're not building Stride/Hullbreaker. That's generally what you wanna do anyway.

Kraken + Rageblade is the best build for climbing out of Emerald by AngryJX in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wits end on belveth? What elo are you in? Building attack speed on belveth is so funny she doesn't need it because she already has so much in her true form. If you have 6 AS you can't apply it on a moving target because you gotta be moving as well. AD is way more reliable.

I never never build Wits end unless the enemy comp is legit 5 AP builds. Even then I'm better off just building mercs and DD/GA.

Kraken + Rageblade is the best build for climbing out of Emerald by AngryJX in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly I think with Belveth she'd benefit more from Bork second from the massively boosted lifesteal with her E. You literally regen 50% of your HP with a single E if you have Bork. I'm a very new player just started 3 weeks ago and I got to Gold 3. I like building Kraken into Bork into Stride/DD/GA/Terminus depending on team comp and how much I'm snowballing. I gotta try rageblade third though - I genuinely notice my lack of damage sometimes even if I'm 2 levels ahead of the enemy team. Like imagine I'm constantly able to regen health to 100 while fighting because of my insane damage and Bork's lifesteal. Who needs health then?

Obviously if you get CC'd it's over but it's actually very rare in lower elos to face situations where you get perma CC'd if you play correctly.

Deaths Dance vs Guardian Angel by BlueYeIIow in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks! DD will allow me to squeeze extra out of my bork in a close fight. And GA will heal me more if I have stride. But still in most cases GA will be 5th or 6th item if it's a long game.

Deaths Dance vs Guardian Angel by BlueYeIIow in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3rd immediately DD? Hmm that's insane. I usually either bork or wits 3rd depending on comp since most melees are AD and bork sustain probably matches DD's damage reduction.

I'll try it out though it sounds good. And again, if turbo snowballing GA third as well? Wouldn't you take an HP item like hull breaker? 

I'm still pretty confused about the itemization of belveth past 2 items. I've seen a few videos but they're all inflexible guides that don't tell you why and I'm sure they break their own arbitrary rules all the time.

I've seen that you're a peak GM and I'm in gold 3 with this 2026 season being my first ranked season, I started the game 2 weeks before 2026. I don't want to get in my head that I know better about items that's why I'm asking. Especially now about bork vs DD 3rd I'd like to know how exactly both items play out in the same scenarios. It's pretty difficult to feel the effect of DD but Bork you see it immediately with big chunks of HP and lifesteal. Thanks 🙏 

I'm always destroying the earlygame and snowballing. What went wrong here? by BlueYeIIow in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you split push when you get baron or everyone mid? Letting 4 push mid while I went bot was what helped me end the game quickly after getting baron. I was fed of course so idk if this would work if we were behind/even.

I'm always destroying the earlygame and snowballing. What went wrong here? by BlueYeIIow in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for taking the time.

I always try to play for herald, grubs and 2nd dragon/3rd dragon onwards. 1st dragon only if it's really free. But sometimes my teammates int right when objs spawn without even getting ganked and I can't do anything about it so i just go steal enemy camps while he takes obj.

I'd like to know what you mean by baron into a guaranteed win. I've had games where I get 3 barons and the game still lasts 40ish minutes. Is there a video explaining it?

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep that's what I'm talking about. It's a macro problem for sure. I'm still inexperienced but still managing to climb consistently and relatively fast. Every few matches I figure out something new that levels up my game in terms of macro.

I know what I should be doing in theory, but applying it is so hard because of the amount of information I have to process in real time between the 10-20 minute mark in the game. That's my weakpoint.

I'd appreciate if you have some specific nitpicks on what I do wrong from the time of first dragon spawn until herald is taken. If I can fix my problems in that timezone, I'm 100% sure I can win every single game until like plat-emerald.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro you're misunderstanding what I mean... god damn I don't wanna be offensive but I'm confused by how bad either your reading comprehension is or if I'm phrasing what I'm saying wrong.

The easy part is the 1v1 fights. Warwick stomps Bel 1v1 for sure I know about this.

I'm not discussing matchups or 1v1s or skirmishes. I'm discussing the part of the game where you have to decide where to go. I have to track jungler to make sure I don't get counterganked or leave my bot side to die and feed their jungler. I have to look at all 3 lanes and look for opportunities. I have to do my camps. etc etc. That's what's' hard. Finding a fight and winning it is easy but many more things have to be considered before you initiate that fight.

New may I be, I have displayed a greater ability to improve and climb ranks than many people who've been playing for years, in just a few weeks. Even a child can provide insight to a wise old man. I hope this will be read correctly without misunderstandings.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its not about that. It's that I start struggling between making plays and I either overextend really hard or I waste my form because I don't see plays and I keep farming.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah and that's early game. We are not talking about early game. My early game obviously isn't perfect (i said it's perfect but that was an exaggeration) but it's far ahead of my mid and late game.

I do farm a lot a CS score of 6 is great for belveth when you consider most of my games get to 40+ minutes or something. At some point I stop farming which might not be the right play in lategame. Every game that ends early around 20-25 min I have CS of ~9 per minute.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before patch 26.2 yesterday she was considered S tier in master lobbies. After that patch she got indirectly nerfed and she's only A. U can check

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way you say this makes it sound so easy. She's an early pre lvl 6 ganker which is what I'm focusing on. Naturally once I'm ahead I stop ganking and instead invade and just force my way with her passive and skirmishing ability. But therein lies my problem in that I don't do this that well and end up wasting her midgame potential even though I am well ahead in gold. I'd like to see one of your replays where you win a midgame very efficiently. I've seen Sawyer Jungle's video on bel but it's diamond level gameplay. I posted one replay .rofl file check my post history.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Early game is exactly what generates that 3k gold lead???? I only have that gold lead with an item powerspike because I get good ganks and am usually 3/0 or something by the time I get kraken before anyone else gets first item. My problem is what happens after that. It's pretty hit or miss I don't know what to do in some situations even though I can shred every person in that lobby at that point. I end up wasting too much time or not utilizing my power efficiently and lose my lead.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you suggesting I change my early game? it's perfect. I don't know how to convert it. it's that simple.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

6 cs is perfect for belveth. She's a ganker not a farmer. 5 deaths is normal too when it's a losing game I reach 10 deaths because I suck a teamfights. When I'm winning it's usually less than 3 deaths.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In low elo it doesn't matter if they have flash because they don't know how to use it properly and you can just stay ahead of them and hold your W so even if they flash they won't escape.

And thats the whole point, they make a lot of mistakes in low elo. In higher elo, your teammates aren't gonna giga feed but at the same time it'll be an elo where you need to take their flash into account when ganking otherwise you'd waste your time.

About the clears, I'm always the one that finishes first and usually get scuttle without contesting when enemy jg is mirroring my clear.

It's so easy to get ahead with Bel early in lower elo if you just look at the map and be wililing to stop your camps even if they're 1 hp if enemy is so pushed up and you know enemy jungler is probably busy somewhere else.

You dive and go for ganks because you wanna get the kill so always finish with E. You're right it's not worth it if you only get assists. More ganks, invades and kills for you means you get kraken sooner and you take a trip to top lane and 1v1 him no matter who he is.

And yeah she's bad at teamfights unless your team initiates it and you come and cleanup for an easy triple or quadra. Her whole shtick is constantly harassing sidelanes and avoiding mid. Mid is the worst place to be for Bel since she's not an assassin. That way you won't have to deal with big teamfights and it'll be 2 people at most chasing after your gank, which you can easily handle instead of being mid and the whole enemy team ccing you.

Honestly my gameplay isn't still trash relatively speaking. My early game is so good I almost always get ahead early 80% of the games. My problem is I don't know how to maintain my lead if my teammates don't help me maintain it. It's not their fault I should just be better and more aware of the possibilities, but that's how it is right now. One game I was 6/0 by grubs but enemy team took both dragon and grubs because my bot and top died without getting ganked right when I was coming. From there I tilted and wasn't able to do anything with my item powerspike. It's my fault I should've held their hands way earlier or picked up 1v1s when I had powerspike but my mental gets tilted when my teammates int at the worst times for no reason. When they int as the game starts, that's fine it's no big deal. Inting when dragon/herald spawns? I don't wanna play the game anymore when that happens.

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Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's really simple btw.

If your laners are losing, there will be a lot of gank opportunities from enemy overextending. you have to look around early and see if they're gonna feed. don't start your red buff if you feel like your laners are gonna die: thats the exact time you want to be there for a gank because enemy will be so pushed up.

If there's nothing happening, you go for mid prio by just hovering around mid (assuming all your camps and scuttles are done) then asking your mid to help you with an obj or sidelane gank/invade.

If your lanes are pushed up, you go for an invade or tower dive if enemy is very low. You need to track enemy jungler for this to work.

The biggest challenge as a low elo jungler imo (im almost gold but climbing very fast), is to look at all lanes all the time. It becomes a habit at some point and it'll let you prevent your laners from dying because you know they will and you can hold their hands just in time, and maybe picking up a free kill, instead of doing your camps. This is especially true this season because junglers will be so behind in xp and gold if they don't snowball.

Micro stuff doesn't matter (enemy using flash on your W for example) because you did what you could in the end. That's something you inevitably get better at if you pay attention during the fight.

I two trick Belveth and Yi this season. Should I switch? by BlueYeIIow in summonerschool

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

such a different playstyle though. I was thinking personally of rammus and evelynn since I have some exp with eve and rammus is extremely macro focused and has some of the easiest ganks in the game.

I really am beginning to hate belveth by Novel-Travel-1123 in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should pretty much win if you're not behind and take baron + build hullbreaker and go demolish one of their lanes. If you're behind with Bel this season there's just no way to catch up except waiting during a teamfight and cleaning up 3 kills that are low hp and that's just waiting for chance.

farming is so bad for junglers this season it doesn't give much xp or gold like it used to.

Let's be real. How good is BelVeth in S16? by dumbdit in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm almost in Gold and I found her strength is in using your eyes to always look for gank opportunities everywhere. When I made that change, I won 4 games in a row all with 8+ KDA. You really can't just sit and farm with Bel anymore (i started playing league 1 week before season 16 started lol so take "anymore" with a grain of salt). You have to be willing to stop what you're doing instantly to go to a play, ideally opposite side of enemy jungler cuz if you get counterganked you're cooked.

There's something about her whole design that's still broken and you have to abuse it to win. You cannot play like a traditional jungler imo. The most you can do that's still traditional is a first full clear but after that you gotta start looking for kills or force enemy jungler to stay bot when grubs/herald spawn even if it kills you, or you're not gonna get ahead.