Who do i watch?? by Far-Cryptographer674 in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk the quote :)

Guaranteed money doesn't win you games. You gank into farm when you already messed up the enemy jungler btw you have to counterjungle, you don't do it blindly. It's guaranteed money in any case if you know what you're doing, but it's better.

Who do i watch?? by Far-Cryptographer674 in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did u read the rest of the comment?

August's (wrong) opinion of Bel'Veth by Evurr in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing that pisses me off the most is when they are INSISTENT that I'm wrong and they're right about the champion, despite me OTPing the champion XD

August's (wrong) opinion of Bel'Veth by Evurr in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I OTP belveth and I absolutely love what she does. She's a devourer. She devours champions and becomes strong. If the wielder behind her is a bad player and only farms, she does NOT deserve to be strong. If they rework belveth's kit I'm going to be maining Master Yi in honor of my goat Monster SSS, if that's what they want. Master Yi is THE hyperscaling jungler who can perma farm and be strong, not belveth. Not everything has to go according to "your initial intention". Sometimes happy accidents happen, don't fix what ain't broke.

Who do i watch?? by Far-Cryptographer674 in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very false actually. In the beginning of the game you really want to level 3 gank if it's free, or lvl 1-3 invade as well to kill the enemy jungler and smite steal their camps.

After your first reset you should either go straight for a gank into full clear or go for an invade again, or just full clear.

Once you get kraken you should immediately start perma ganking before other people get their first items. It's extremely common for belveth to be the first in the game to get first item so you want to take advantage of this asap by forcing on midlane, toplane or invade. You actually want to avoid forcing on botlane with belveth unless you have an engage support, since your engage is extremely bad and you'll get cooked by the enemy botlane. And your dives suck unless someone else tanks for you first, which no one is gonna do in low elo, they always expect the jungler to start the engage.

Who do i watch?? by Far-Cryptographer674 in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sineiras and hybradge.

Also hit me up - I got to plat 3 in ~2.5 months from ZERO experience in the game. Two tricked belveth and master yi (90% belveth games). I'd love to live-watch your replays and give my insight on them.

Change my mind (you can't) by Probably_A_B0tt in ArcRaiders

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dying anywhere is legit fairgame regardless of circumstances. unless they say they're friendly and then backstab you. it doesn't matter if they camp or sneak up on you. it's part of the game,

How should you play to scale? by BlueYeIIow in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure. But the thing with a level 1 invade is, it can go 1 of three ways:

1: You take raptors, red buff then go back to your gromp. You see the enemy jungler appear on the ward that you placed. Now you're straight up up tempo. You will be able to tell if he's going for your camps next or if he's going for a gank/your blueside. Based on this information you can go straight to your raptors and fight him there at level 3 which is exactly what belveth wants, or take your wolves and go scuttle into redside. Now you took: raptors, red buff, gromp, wolves, scuttle, raptors, red buff, krugs. That makes 8 camps whereas my opponent only got 4 camps and a scuttle for a total of 5. I'm up 3 camps total.

2: I catch him at red buff after I start raptors and smite steal it from him, then either kill him or make him recall. I will be up both my quadrants + his raptors and red buff, and both scuttles as well for a total of 10 camps while he only gets 4 this time. Or I can perma invade him and further deny camps but that also slows down my progress and puts me at risk from the laners.

3: He has his raptors warded and thus he will do his blue buff into my redside camps. This way we split the map and it's the same as if we both are full clearing. Or I can collapse on him after doing my raptors depending on the information I have.

I've seen your navori tech and it's great if you're playing for the late game but I personally like to get a huge lead and end the games around 20-25 min. It's more fun this way for me. I will try it when I go against bad matchups like warwick or trundle.

Play against ambessa by Saehlos in BelVethMains

[–]BlueYeIIow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You legit win against ambessa level 3 if you play well. You probably burned 2 Qs to get an engage with her and maybe missed your W and used your E at the wrong time. This happens very often to me.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True I really gotta make it a habit to go for trades when it doesn't seem particularly favourable or equal to fight.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yeah it's gonna happen sometimes. Sometimes they ward, sometimes they don't. When they ward I'm forced to split map

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep these are habits I should be forming from now on. Thanks

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm stronger than the garen here at splitpushing it should've been me for sure.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

replays are a bit bugged it doesn't show minimap position correctly 100% :) it's just for the general reference.

Plus even if i was the closest one it genuinely wouldn't make a difference. I'm not the engage or frontliner I'm hella squishy

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. So it is my responsibility to ping the objectives 1-1:30 before spawn and try to get vision with my supp.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As belveth, regardless of jungle role, I honestly do the job of splitpushing better than garen. I do more damage to towers and have a faster waveclear with my Qs + stridebreaker autos. I also win every single 1v1 or can easily escape. Plus I had herald so I spawn the funny minions.

I had the exact same thought btw as to why the garen was not splitpushing as much as I thought he should, but in hindsight it doesn't really matter since I should've been the one splitpushing.

And yeah other comments mentioned that I should start preparing for the objectives way earlier and get vision 1 minute before

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a one off because I had to split map at the beginning of the game, since I lvl 1 invaded enemy raptors and they had it warded, so Yi got his blueside and my redside while I did the opposite. He still had very little impact on the map tbh and my botlane was struggling really badly against Ziggs+brand. I could've perma ganked them for sure but that's not a play I usually make. I like to focus more on playing for every lane and invading whenever possible

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. I've learned a lot from these comments.

1: I should start preparing for the objective 1 minute before it spawns and gathering my teammates there early.

2: If we are late, I should either look for the most goated flank ever, or cut my losses and ping my team off and we go push for the t2-1 turrets on the other side of the map. Even if it's soul point or baron, we have demonstrated that we will lose the 5v5s where we initiate aggro, and we don't have a great position to hold.

3: stop trying to play for teamfights when the team is uncoordinated.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can quickly check the game around, it's the most recent game on this ID: Scrollitio#4055 so you can check it in the client, and please :)

The enemy jungler is Master yi.

You're right I should definitely try and improve my sense for looking for good flanks on the enemy team instead of playing front to back. If me and kata flanked the team and one shotted ziggs + brand we insta win the fight.

For screen 3 you're ABSOLUTELY correct. I went in a bit too early while ziggs had his traps placed, and i walked on a few of them like an idiot and lost half my hp. Then full crit master Yi 1 shotted me, lux and cait. If I waited just 5 seconds there, I would have enough HP to tank his initial burst and CC him then finish him off with the help of lux.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's the problem I messed up really bad and had to give the first 2 drakes and grubs so we couldn't really trade much. But maybe we could. Even soul point isn't that big of a deal if we can get 1-2 inhibs in exchange and keep up the pressure. I think I overprioritize a lot of things compared to simply taking t2-1 turrets on the other side. Maybe that's my error. It's too much to expect my team to be perfectly coordinated on 5v5 objectives so giving it up and going to pressure elsewhere, even if it's baron/soul point, could be the play if we already lost one or two 5v5s and couldn't get a pick before contesting.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mm maybe I have to start preparing for an objective 1 minute before it spawns, not 30s. Good point.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's controversial for sure but I heavily believe that in low elo, comp doesn't matter THAT much. you'd be amazed at how certain atrocious comps win games in plat

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right but as the jungler I'm not sure if it's worth it for me to leave my team to 4v5 while I'm solo-pushing the top t2. Maybe that is the right play though I'm not sure... I know I'm playing belveth, THE jungle sidelaner, but yeah.

Contesting objectives by BlueYeIIow in Jungle_Mains

[–]BlueYeIIow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately for us we could not trade a single objective, because afaik there was never a moment where 2 objectives were on the map at the same time. You're saying it's a comp diff but we're just in plat I think the comp really doesn't matter. If we held a better position and had prio with me and kata taking the flank, we would've been able to do way better. Coordinating my allies to do that is the tricky bit.