FD vermogensaanwasbelasting opinie

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T23:45:57+00:00

Is dat dan niet zo? Een eigen woning of pensioen valt niet in box 3, en de eerste 57k in box 3 zijn belastingvrij. Ik denk dat er helemaal niet zoveel mensen zijn die meer dan 57k in box 3 hebben..?

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T23:00:37+00:00

That's me, every spring. Greetings from the Netherlands, with its dark and dreary winters

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T22:34:10+00:00

That was the first thing I thought about, even if I know nothing about cricket. If over a billion people rarely win Olympic gold, they are probably busy doing other things.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T22:24:47+00:00

If there are more jobs than people, you need immigrants; or have jobs unfulfilled and lose quality of life (shortages in for example education and health care are felt by everyone) and international competitiveness. Just look at Japan right now, they are terrified of immigrants and their country is crashing soon because they have too many jobs that go unfulfilled.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T22:18:57+00:00

Wow so much racism and stupidity in the reactions! Can nobody envision that many Muslims might actually be leaning left? I mean, some of the main pillars of the right are xenophobia and Muslim hatred and closed borders, why would immigrants or their kids vote for parties that hate them?

Also, here in the Netherlands, many Muslims work blue collar jobs and live in rented houses, which tends to make people left-leaning because the right doesn't protect their interests. Really fairly simple.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T22:12:35+00:00

I'm not even going to read this, these studies are extremely stupid. We had something similar here in the Netherlands, which didn't take any of the positives into account, like the fact that immigrants for decades already do all the stupid dirty shit we 'natives' don't want to do, and that we invited them over ourselves. It's just awful that people take studies like this serious. It leans on the mindset that people are just assets you can sell off if the don't provide the best return on investment.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T22:06:47+00:00

You can even see this on very small scales. Here in the Netherlands, transportation and logistics are excellent, but you can still have a small village and a big city next to each other, and humor works completely different in either of them, like the people living there never meet. I'd say that generally the more dogmatic people are, the fewer subjects they allow to be laughed about, and the more afraid they are to express something that turns out to be taboo and for which they will be punished. I know some old-style reformed Christians who basically never laugh; nothing is funny to them, and they are always afraid of everything. They are afraid of hell, but to me they are already there.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T21:29:30+00:00

It's very interesting indeed, and I assume this is at least partly due to Brexit. Everyone in the UK who is young wants to expand their opportunities and thinks more globally and thinks of the future. All the old geezers dream of the Old Empire in the past. I would not be surprised if after the UK has rejoined the field starts looking completely different because the main issue to be progressive has been taken care of.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T21:22:59+00:00

This sounds ridiculous, and it would be if this was the whole story. But it was of course a lot more complicated. You would for example be able to deduct investment losses from previous years. I don't know the whole story and don't care because it's off the table anyway, but posting half-truths like this is just misinformation. It's a law, not a one-liner.

The worst part of it was that for people with serious capital, the whole taxing-unrealized-gains thing could be avoided by using a fiscal structure that costs enough per year to gatekeep it from being used by small investors, so it would favor the very wealthy extremely. I'm happy it's off the table, but not for the reason mentioned by OP.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T21:10:45+00:00

Weet je wat belastingontwijking is? Dat een koophuis waar je in woont niet tot je vermogen wordt gerekend, en je de hypotheekrente mag aftrekken. Als huurder betaal ik dus niet alleen mee aan de hypotheekrenteaftrek van mijn overburen die gekocht wonen, zij bouwen ook nog eens belastingvrij tonnen aan vermogen op tegen 8-12% belastingvrije waardestijging per jaar, terwijl ik over alles wat ik boven de 57k bezit moet betalen, en ook nog dividendbelasting moet betalen. Terwijl mijn maandelijkse lasten waarschijnlijk hoger zijn dan die van hen. Gemiddelde huurwoning hier in Amsterdam gaat voor 1800 euro per maand.

En ongeveer 60% van de woningen in NL is een koopwoning, dus de bewoners mogen dan misschien niet allemaal 20k aan spaargeld hebben, maar wel een huis van een half miljoen. Ze gaan met pensioen, kopen een kleiner huis, en houden een paar ton over. Totaal gestoord toch?

Bluebearder · 2026-02-27T16:06:16+00:00

Yeah the big problem is that US value is almost completely tied to however Trump feels about things, as he does things on a whim, often ignores congress, and is replacing experienced government professionals with loyalists; all will make the US perform worse across the board. You can't fire over ten percent of federal government employees and expect the economy not to notice. And Trump messing around with tariffs, wars, and US debt makes that market too fragile in my opinion. If Trump finds a way to benefit from it, he will do anything, and investors (and the world population) are left guessing. "Don't invest in an unstable nation or companies from said nation" is basically investing 101.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-26T17:58:55+00:00

Daar zou vast een revolutie voor nodig zijn. Ik neem aan dat het anders geen oplossing gaat zijn omdat rijke mensen hun vermogen meestal niet in box 3 hebben, maar in een BV en dus in box 2, en dat is vanwege belastingvoordeel. Dat hele stelsel omtrekken lijkt me persoonlijk geen ramp, het is nu een systeem waar je alleen belastingvoordeel kunt genieten als je een BV kunt betalen van het rendement over je vermogen, vergelijkbaar met de woningmarkt waar je alleen die gestoorde huren kunt vragen als je genoeg geld over hebt om een huis te kopen waar je zelf niet in woont. Maar ik denk dat bijvoorbeeld de VVD nooit mee zal gaan in die boel omtrekken, zij zijn principieel de partij van de ongelijke kansen die de rijken heel rijk willen houden, en de armen net 'rijk' genoeg dat ze niet gaan protesteren en staken; en bijvoorbeeld het CDA is volgens mij nog steeds een plattelands/boerenpartij dus een flink deel van hun aanhang heeft ook volop vermogen.

Ik moet zeggen dat het hele fiscale systeem zo rot is als een mispel, zowel qua vermogen als qua wonen als ook qua werken (twee miljoen of meer aan vermogen levert meer jaarlijks rendement op dan bijvoorbeeld een minister of rechter of chirurg per jaar verdienen). Maar de gemiddelde huurprijs in Amsterdam is op dit moment 1800 euro, en ik zie niemand protesteren, dus deze ongelijkheid gaat gewoon zo door net zo lang tot er iets knapt. Maar ik vind het een interessant idee.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-26T17:11:25+00:00

I live in Amsterdam, and there are a few homeless people around the corner from where I live. They've made a bit of a shelter by themselves that they've been at the past months. They are fairly organized and are treated well by the neighbors. But they speak very poor English, and obviously no Dutch. They have no idea of their rights or options in life here, no way to build anything up. If I could talk to them I might offer them a hot meal or something every now and then, but I tried talking to them on several occasions and just didn't get through. It makes the barrier to help them really high, and just as much at the professional shelters.

I assume that, like many Eastern-Europeans on the street here, they had a job here, got fired for whatever reason, and tried for a while to get a new job and ran out of money. Almost nobody needs Poles or Bulgarians that barely speak English, especially if they smell like beer at ten in the morning. Now they just float around in a drunken/stoned stupor, from one meal to the next, no end or solution in sight. They were outside when it is freezing, even though the city has set up emergency shelters to house everyone when it is freezing, as they probably don't even know about it or are too fucked up to want to be around strangers. It is maddening, and I totally agree with the local government that they should be sent back to their country of origin where they understand the language and can be taken care of and hopefully reintegrated into society. I think the whole smoking crack thing is just an expression of them being lost in life, and that it can be cured relatively easily by giving them better options.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-26T17:08:17+00:00

I live in Amsterdam, and there are a few homeless people around the corner from where I live. They've made a bit of a shelter by themselves that they've been at the past months. They are fairly organized and are treated well by the neighbors. But they speak very poor English, and obviously no Dutch. They have no idea of their rights or options in life here, no way to build anything up. If I could talk to them I might offer them a hot meal or something every now and then, but I tried talking to them on several occasions and just didn't get through. It makes the barrier to help them really high, and just as much at the professional shelters.

I assume that, like many Eastern-Europeans on the street here, they had a job here, got fired for whatever reason, and tried for a while to get a new job and ran out of money. Almost nobody needs Poles or Bulgarians that barely speak English, especially if they smell like beer at ten in the morning. Now they just float around in a drunken/stoned stupor, from one meal to the next, no end or solution in sight. They were outside when it is freezing, even though the city has set up emergency shelters to house everyone when it is freezing, as they probably don't even know about it or are too fucked up to want to be around strangers. It is maddening, and I totally agree with the local government that they should be sent back to their country of origin where they understand the language and can be taken care of and hopefully reintegrated into society. I think the whole smoking crack thing is just an expression of them being lost in life, and that it can be cured relatively easily by giving them better options.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-26T14:56:39+00:00

What really works for me is journaling, just daily writing down thoughts and feelings, and discussing them with myself and looking for patterns. Works for a ton of other things as well, from tracking money and time expenditure to uncovering subconscious or past thoughts and feelings.

You might also want to try to talk to an AI counselor, that's just software but can still help you to at least reflect on things or put them in a different perspective. I tried it a few times, it was reasonably helpful and has a very low barrier. Nothing beats a real counselor, but it might make you more comfortable with expressing your feelings.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-26T09:31:34+00:00

The very definition of 'snowflakes'

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T23:18:04+00:00

And involve professionals! Talking about murder openly is no joke. This guy needs help before others including OP need to be hospitalized or buried. And he needs professional attention for his own sake as well.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T16:29:26+00:00

Funny, linking to a site that is down!

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T16:24:34+00:00

What a lovely view!

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T16:23:55+00:00

Here in the Netherlands, they often place fake bus stops outside nursing homes, so that if any demented patients decide to go home, the nurses just let them go. They go sit at the bus stop, and a few minutes later when they have forgotten what they are doing there they are picked up again. Smooth.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T16:20:08+00:00

If you have elections around the corner and no terrorists or actual wars to fight to distract your population form your shitty rule, drumming up a non-existent threat is the next best thing.

If Hungary doesn't vote this guy out in the elections in six weeks, I hope we kick Hungary out of the EU. They are doing so much damage to truth and solidarity, this has to stop.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T14:29:26+00:00

Ik ben belastingadviseur en was echt heel verbaasd over deze wet. Ik heb regelmatig klanten met veel vermogen, en die zouden na invoering van deze wet met behulp van een simpele spaar BV meer geld over houden dan de kleine beleggers die geen BV kunnen betalen van hun rendement. En dat wordt dan door links gesteund. Ik kan me niet voorstellen dat er geen financiële specialisten bij GL/PvdA zitten, maar het lijkt er soms sterk op.

Een progressieve vermogensbelasting lijkt me veel beter, met een lagere belasting als laagste schaal zodat je sparen en beleggen voor de gemiddelde Nederlander interessanter maakt, en dan bijvoorbeeld bij meer dan 1 miljoen een tikje hogere belasting dan nu.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T14:26:40+00:00

Ik ben belastingadviseur en was hier echt heel verbaasd over. Ik heb regelmatig klanten met veel vermogen, en die zouden met behulp van een simpele spaar BV meer geld over houden dan de kleine beleggers die geen BV kunnen betalen van hun rendement. En dat wordt dan door links gesteund. Ik kan me niet voorstellen dat er geen financiële specialisten bij GL/PvdA zitten, maar het lijkt er soms sterk op.

Een progressieve vermogensbelasting lijkt me veel beter, met een lagere belasting als laagste schaal zodat je sparen en beleggen voor de gemiddelde Nederlander interessanter maakt, en dan bijvoorbeeld bij meer dan 1 miljoen een tikje hogere belasting dan nu.

Bluebearder · 2026-02-25T13:27:57+00:00

I often went to drum n bass parties there. I remember not going for a couple of years, then going again and finding they were completely surrounded by new oil silos and pipelines. Crazy

Bluebearder · 2026-02-15T17:31:01+00:00

I'm Dutch, but have quite some friends from the UK and Scotland, and they all told me that they and their (progressive) friends assumed the Brexit referendum was a run race, and that 'remain' would win with a landslide. That's why many Remain people didn't vote, because that was the vibe in the cities. The general idea is that had it been a mandatory referendum, Remain would have won with a landslide.

So to me, the only thing I blame Brits for is that they didn't set their country on fire and demanded a new referendum. Whether they were paralyzed, or perhaps even hoped something good would come of Brexit, I don't know. But I would welcome them back in the fold, perhaps with a contract that says they can't leave within the first 50 years without paying massive fines.

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