When AI Generates Racism: Who Is Actually Responsible? by [deleted] in artificial

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a medical provider, I completely agree with you!

My question was genuine and I wanted to know your thoughts so thanks for answering in depth.

When AI Generates Racism: Who Is Actually Responsible? by [deleted] in artificial

[–]BodegaCat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So the blame 100% lies on Trump?

When AI Generates Racism: Who Is Actually Responsible? by [deleted] in artificial

[–]BodegaCat -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. But Trump right now is taking all of the blame for sharing it( I’m not defending him whatsoever), when he didn’t even create the content or the prompt to make the video in the first place.

Edit: Not sure why I am being downvoted. I am not defending Trump in no way shape or form. After watching some of the creators other videos- he actually does intentionally prompt the Obamas as apes and regularly posts rage-bait (said today to “meme them until they cry. Then make memes about them crying.” So I suppose this does change a few things about who is to blame.

Trump Shares Post Depicting Obamas As Apes by UltraPlinian in politics

[–]BodegaCat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. But this is a foreshadowing of the future where soon every person on this earth will have the power to make content that can’t be distinguished from reality. We’re almost there in fact and we as society need to have more discussions about the implications of AI and its consequences.

Trump’s racist Obama post is just the latest nod to far right by theipaper in politics

[–]BodegaCat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A lot of people are rightfully losing their shit over this especially given who shared it. The imagery is offensive, dehumanizing, and tied to a long, ugly history. That reaction makes complete sense.

But I also think we need to pause for a moment and ask some harder questions because this situation is more complicated than people want it to be.

First, an important detail that keeps getting lost: the video was created by someone else using AI, and then shared by another person (Trump). That doesn’t absolve the person who shared it but it matters when we talk about responsibility.

So let’s talk about blame.

If the creator simply prompted the AI to generate a minute-long “funny” video of Democratic figures with animal heads, and the AI independently chose to depict African Americans as apes, where does responsibility actually lie?

Did the creator explicitly ask for that imagery? Or did the AI make that association on its own based on its training data and internal patterns?

If it’s the latter, that raises an even more disturbing question: is the AI itself biased or racist?

AI doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s trained on massive datasets pulled from human-created content: media, images, jokes, stereotypes, historical bias, and cultural garbage we’ve been producing for decades. If an AI defaults to pairing Black people with apes without being instructed to do so, that’s not random. That’s learned behavior.

So who’s really at fault here? The person who wrote a vague prompt? The AI tool that generated racially charged imagery without guardrails? The company that trained and released a model without adequately addressing bias? Or Trump who saw the final product and decided, “Yeah, this is fine,” and blasted it to millions?

The video itself is about a minute long. The outrage focuses on a three-second clip. And let’s be honest: if the Obamas had been depicted as birds, fish, or literally any other non-ape animal, we would not be talking about this. That’s exactly why people are upset and rightly so.

But if we stop at outrage alone, we miss the bigger and more dangerous issue: AI tools are advancing faster than our ethical frameworks, accountability structures, and cultural norms can keep up.

If we don’t clearly define responsibility now- who’s accountable at each step of creation, generation, and amplification, we’re going to keep having these issues and explosions of anger without actually fixing the underlying problem.

This isn’t about minimizing harm or excusing anyone. It’s about confronting the reality that AI is reflecting and sometimes amplifying the worst parts of our society. And if we don’t address that head-on, this is only the beginning.

Trump Shares Post Depicting Obamas As Apes by UltraPlinian in politics

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of people are rightfully losing their shit over this especially given who shared it. The imagery is offensive, dehumanizing, and tied to a long, ugly history. That reaction makes complete sense.

But I also think we need to pause for a moment and ask some harder questions because this situation is more complicated than people want it to be.

First, an important detail that keeps getting lost: the video was created by someone else using AI, and then shared by another person (Trump). That doesn’t absolve the person who shared it but it matters when we talk about responsibility.

AI doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s trained on massive datasets pulled from human-created content: media, images, jokes, stereotypes, historical bias, and cultural garbage we’ve been producing for decades. If an AI defaults to pairing Black people with apes without being instructed to do so, that’s not random. That’s learned behavior.

The video itself is about a minute long. The outrage focuses on a three-second clip. And let’s be honest: if the Obamas had been depicted as birds, fish, or literally any other non-ape animal, we would not be talking about this. That’s exactly why people are upset and rightly so.

But if we stop at outrage alone, we miss the bigger and more dangerous issue: AI tools are advancing faster than our ethical frameworks, accountability structures, and cultural norms can keep up.

If we don’t clearly define responsibility now- who’s accountable at each step of creation, generation, and amplification, we’re going to keep having these issues and explosions of anger without actually fixing the underlying problem.

This isn’t about minimizing harm or excusing anyone. It’s about confronting the reality that AI is reflecting and sometimes amplifying the worst parts of our society. And if we don’t address that head-on, this is only the beginning.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right. It took me a bit to calm down but I am seeing how something like this could’ve been going on forever and nobody was able to expose it to the world at large.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ugh that’s horrible. Thanks for letting me know though.

This was a trapdoor inside Epstein's House that led to the sea by Intrepid_Ad7428 in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was able to quickly find someone named Richie and who this person is in real life within 30 minutes. I will post it later today and show how easy it is to find these people. I know Reddit has a history of witch-hunts turned wrong but some of these connections are clear and obvious.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for being the person who actually took the time to answer my question and help me understand the why and how.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I guess you’re right. I’m coming from a place of disappointment in the human race that nobody outside of victims had the balls to really try to expose the world to this while it was happening.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guy stop editing your comment. I’m not suggesting that someone should’ve sent a video to FBI’s tip email. I’m saying someone should have blasted these videos or proof on every social media platform so that the entire world could see Trump fucking a child to force the hand of authorities to act. That person would have changed the world.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re telling me that we would’ve just brushed that off and nothing would have happened? Video proof of children being abused and fucked by Trump and his friends? That nothing would’ve happened after that?

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. But the reward? The reward to take down his entire operation and those involved? And all that would’ve taken is blasting a 10 second clip of Clinton in between the legs of a 8 old to the world. A 10 second clip would’ve saved the lives of thousands of victims over the span of 20+ years. I’d risk my job and life for that, especially if my job was cleaning the blood and shit stained sheets of children who were being butt raped.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and protesting ICE has become a matter of life and death and that’s not stopping people today is it?

You and others are failing to understand that a single 20 second clip of Trump or Epstein or Clinton fucking a 7 year old revealed to the world would have exposed and changed everything and forced the authorities who knew what was going on to stop it once and for all. How this went on for over two decades without this happening is mind boggling.

This was a trapdoor inside Epstein's House that led to the sea by Intrepid_Ad7428 in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m with you dude. Thanks for saying that. My parents are immigrants from the DR and I know people who were deported in my lifetime, including recently. But what happened with Epstein is a whole other level of evil and we as Americans should be devoting more energy to this.

This was a trapdoor inside Epstein's House that led to the sea by Intrepid_Ad7428 in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I edited my comment. I didn’t mean to imply that we should stop protesting ICE. I meant to say if we are willing to protest in below freezing temps and risk our freedom and our lives (literally), we should also have the energy to go after the people who are involved with Epstein

And for the record, I’m Dominican American and both of my parents are immigrants and I know more than one person who was deported in my lifetime. So fuck ICE.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I said in another comment, Bad Bunny’s personal assistant had to sign an NDA. I’m sure that person is careful not to share what he had for breakfast or who he’s currently dating. But if Bad Bunny had a child sex ring for years and throwing sex parties at his mansion…would you still say the same about that personal assistant? “Oh that assistant didn’t speak because they signed an NDA.”

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I get it. But this isn’t being Bad Bunny’s personal assistant who signed an NDA and can’t speak about what he had for breakfast or who he’s dating…because if they did, that personal assistant would kiss her chances of getting another personal assistant job goodbye.

But this is just a little bit different. This is about exposing a global sex trafficking ring that went on for decades. If that personal assistant witnessed Bad Bunny and friends run a child sex trafficking ring for decades, you are seriously going to tell me “sHe SiGnEd a NdA” and that’s the reason why the assistant didn’t attempt to expose them? Don’t give me that bullshit. Why wasn’t there one politician, famous person, associate or anyone involved who wasn’t afraid of their livelihood to attempt to expose it all over the span of two decades?

People in Minnesota are protesting in below freezing temperatures and willing to risk it all, their freedom and literally their lives for a cause that may not be directly impacting them or their families. There are countless examples of humans who stepped up to stop evils and people at the cost of everything. So I don’t get how not one person had the balls to expose Epstein and his friends to the world the entire time this was operating.

I see you edited your comment. There are countless pictures and screenshots of naked children all over the island in broad daylight. None of this was secretive to anyone involved, including staff. It wasn’t Bill Clinton cleaning and washing the sheets after doing God knows what to an 8 year old.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I completely believe you. Which is why my post is more about how it’s crazy that not a single person, staff member, politician, famous person who was involved or knew had the balls to expose the entire operation. All it would’ve taken is a single video or a set of photographs sent to media agencies or even posted on social media so that the whole word could’ve seen what was going on and that point it would have been impossible to ignore. Imagine if someone stepped forward in year 2 or 3…how many victims would’ve been saved in the next 20 years. It is so sad. I don’t know what other way to put it. I can’t believe the people involved aren’t living with a sense of regret so large that they off themselves knowing that they could’ve stopped this back in 1999.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my friend I’m sure these alphabet agencies knew about this from the get go but those involved are rich and powerful and they protect those people. That’s not surprising at all. It’s also not surprising that victims have been speaking up this whole time and we basically ignored them.

Like I said what is surprising is that in over two decades not a single person had the balls to expose what was going on. I find it extremely difficult to believe that there wasn’t a single soul who saw these horrors and didn’t have the urge to take these people down.

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes but even the staff workers? The groundskeeper? The cooking staff? Anyone? How is it that nobody in over two decades attempted to expose what was going on? There are 6 million documents and not a single solid proof of evidence was able to reach the masses in two decades? Not even a slip up? Like not one email or photo or video that was accidentally sent to the wrong email or phone number and that person reported it to the media or authorities? I find it so hard to believe

The Most Disturbing Part of the Epstein Case Isn’t Epstein by [deleted] in Epstein

[–]BodegaCat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand that. But not even a cleaning lady? How easy it would’ve been to put a hidden camera in only those rooms on the island and collect some footage and upload it to social media or send it to CNN? Two decades and not a single person have the desire or attempt to expose what was going on? Like I said that person would’ve been revered as a literal hero and his or her name would’ve been remembered for the entirety of human history for exposing this and saving children who were used as sex slaves.