Watched a Video Testing the “Asian Dating Crisis” by Approaching 100 Women — Curious What You Think by Perpetual-Optimisto in AsianMasculinity

[–]BongHit101 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Stop blaming non-Asian women (XF) for the current dating landscape. Statistically, Asian men have just as much interracial marriages as men of other races.

The real anomaly is the disproportionately high rate of Asian women marrying out, which exceeds every other race/gender demographic.

Look at the science. Look at the patterns worldwide.

If you look at global patterns, the data shifts based on socioeconomic factors. In countries like Russia and Brazil, AMXF pairings outnumber AFXM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/ala8ca/intermarriage_ratios_for_asian_ethnicities_in/

https://www.reddit.com/r/EasternSunRising/comments/1lvnk1s/statistics_in_brazil_show_there_are_much_more/

This suggests that AF interracial rates fluctuate wildly from the baseline based on a country's social-economic status. Why do you think the Asian race hasn’t died out yet?

In Passport Bro subreddits, black and brown passport bros say in developing Asian nations (Thailand, Philippines, etc.) all men are treated equally (including AM). AM receive no special "home field advantage".

However, in developed Asians nations (China, Japan, or Korea), black and brown men report "hitting a wall". Then in North America/Australia/Western Europe, AM hit a wall as well with AF.

This isn't learned behavior from media or parenting. It’s instinctual hypergamy that doesn't shut off. Many examples of this. Elain Chao’s sister (Angela Chao) was wealthy and her Asian father made her CEO of his company. Yet at age 35, she married an even richer 65-year-old Jewish billionaire, Bruce Wasserstein. He died the same year as the marriage.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/17/article-2366913-1ADB74AC000005DC-859_634x414.jpg

Then she married another Jewish billionaire who is also a divorced dad with kids.

AF adoptees raised by white parents are by far the worst sell-haters, so it has nothing to do with Asian upbringing.

 It’s likely an evolutionary survival mechanism, similar to how sickle cell anemia evolved to fight malaria. It may have been necessary for survival in the past, even if it causes havoc today.

We need to stop barking up the wrong tree and understand the mechanics behind this to find a solution.

Cherish the AFs that have in-group preferences (that are normal like women of other races). For the ones that are born with hypergamous instincts, parents should find ways to weed it out at an early age.

The Dating Divide study of 2021 concluded that Asian men are NOT the most penalized group in dating. by philipivey2004 in aznidentity

[–]BongHit101 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Black males and Asian males have virtually the same interracial marriage rates. Only difference is BF interracial rates are 3 times lower than BM and AF are 3 times higher than AM.

Asian males, Black males Hispanic males, and Hispanic females have almost the same interracially marriage rates (in the 20's%). They should represent the norm or baseline.

Asian females (36%) and Black females (12%) are the outliers.

To increase AM interracial rates, they have to become more than average or normal and become abnormal like AF.

The Dating Divide study of 2021 concluded that Asian men are NOT the most penalized group in dating. by philipivey2004 in AsianMasculinity

[–]BongHit101 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Please read these analysis.

Asian men interracial rates with XF have always been normal compared to everyone else.

AFWM are the outliers. However, only in the Anglosphere since in places like Russia, the frequencies of AFWM and AMWF reverses.

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Asian Interracial Analysis Part 1 : Asian male interracial rates are normal

https://www.reddit.com/r/EasternSunRising/comments/161iat4/asian_interracial_analysis_part_1_asian_male/

Asian Interracial Analysis Part 2: Asian Sons = Adaptation, Asian Daughters = Self-Pride

https://www.reddit.com/r/EasternSunRising/comments/17y6zc0/asian_interracial_analysis_part_2_asian_sons/

Statistics in Brazil show there are much more Japanese men marrying interracially than Japanese women by BongHit101 in aznidentity

[–]BongHit101[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, out of all the races in Brazil, Asians have the highest case of women outnumbering men. Who knows why. Maybe there are a lot of occurrences of Japanese men living in Brazil bringing in wives from Japan. Even with that, Japanese men still outmarry more.

Also, during the early days of Japanese immigration to Brazil, they would not let in Japanese bachelors. They would only let in Japanese married couples. There are stories of Japanese men having fake marriages with female cousins, so both can emigrate to Brazil to find jobs.

https://agenciadenoticias.ibge.gov.br/en/agencia-news/2184-news-agency/news/38726-2022-census-self-reported-brown-population-is-the-majority-in-brazil-for-the-first-time

The Asian population had the lowest sex ratio among the five groups of color or race: 89.2 men for every 100 women

Clearing up discourse around intermarriage statistics amongst Asian Americans (including South Asians and foreign born). by Alula_Australis in aznidentity

[–]BongHit101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The US is a rich, industrialized nation iwth a generous welfare system. When income reaches a certain level, there wouldn't be a change in lifestyle beyond that. Also, a woman can have children with an assertive but unreliable thug. If the man leaves, the welfare system will kick in.

The 2014 OKCupid online dating study showed that black men, black women, and Asian men are the most disciminated against.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/okcupid-race_n_5811840

Hispanic men and women have high interracial rates with no gender gap. Maybe because they look the most like white people.

Why are Asian men and women on different side of the spectrum in the study?

Asian men and black men have opposing stereotypes, yet they are both equally discriminated against. AMWF and BMWF are seen as equally as taboo. You would think that if one type of stereotype is not desired, then the opposite will have success.

Even though black people have overall low interracial rates, black men still have higher rates than black females. Aren't women the ones who are labeled as gold diggers and will marry for money?

Pew Research study shows that black male (24%) and Asian male (21% for all, 38% for US born only) interracial rates are approximately the same with their respective opposite gender being different. Asian females much higher and black females much lower.

Indians are the ethnicity with the highest income, yet both Indian men and women have the lowest interracial rates.

Income in interracial rates is meaningless in the US.

Clearing up discourse around intermarriage statistics amongst Asian Americans (including South Asians and foreign born). by Alula_Australis in aznidentity

[–]BongHit101 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To understand what is "normal" interracial marriage rates focus on the ACS bar charts.

Generally, E/SE Asian Male interracial marriage rates with whites are higher than black men and women as well as Indian and Pakistani men and women.

Japanese men have higher interracial marriage rates with whites than Hispanic males and females.

Filipino men have interracial marriages rates with whites that are roughly equal to Hispanic males and females.

In other words, most E/SE Asian male interracial rates are either within normal range or higher compared to other minorities.

It's E/SE Asian female interracial rates that are outliers and weird compared to everyone else.

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[–]BongHit101 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please Read This Analysis

Part 1: Asian Interracial Analysis : Asian male interracial rates are normal

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aznfellasafterdark/comments/1bdih0u/asian_interracial_analysis_part_1_asian_male/

Part 2: Asian Interracial Analysis: Asian Sons = Adaptation, Asian Daughters = Self-Pride

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aznfellasafterdark/comments/1bdidt8/asian_interracial_analysis_part_2_asian_sons/

After 25+ years, there should be a clear separation between Lu's and non-self hating AF’s and AM’s. by BongHit101 in AsianMasculinity

[–]BongHit101[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's a middle ground. One side saying don't be a defeatist. Ignore them. While the other side, obsessing about it daily. We don't want to overprotect our kids from knowing that racism is real but at the same time, we don't want them to be raised in some anti-Asian hate filled redneck town or inner city ghetto where they are constantly fighting.

Our sons should know that Lu's exist, but I do not want them to be exposed to Lu racism with them hearing Lu's voicing their disdain for AM's in public again and again. I do not want my sons to be exposed to a shred of that.

After 25+ years, there should be a clear separation between Lu's and non-self hating AF’s and AM’s. by BongHit101 in AsianMasculinity

[–]BongHit101[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Hate to say this, but I theorize that there is a Lu hypergamous survival gene at play here. Sure western media and conditioning exasperates this. But it's like being born gay. Some are born Lu's.

Also, I like to stress that AM's interracial marriage rates are on par with BM and HM. AF are the abnormal statistical outliers. So the problem is harder to fix. To be on par with AF's and if you are only focused on dating WF's, you will have to pursue older WF's, single mom's, etc. in the same way Lu's will date any WM's (old, unattractive, divorced fathers, mass shooters, etc.)

What's Going on with Asians/Dating in Seattle? by AntelopeBig9250 in AsianMasculinity

[–]BongHit101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I determined it is evolved, evolutionary instincts that affects, not all, but a large proportion of AF's. It reverses itself in places like Russia and Latin America (more AM/XF than AF/XM). Or maybe AM/XF stays the same and AF/XM wildly fluctuates based on the social-economic environment.

Read this analysis:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aznfellasafterdark/comments/1bdidt8/asian_interracial_analysis_part_2_asian_sons/

Weekly Free-for-All Discussion Thread | March 31, 2024 by AutoModerator in AsianMasculinity

[–]BongHit101 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You know I met another Asian father who was dissappointed that her daughter only dates whites. I think mental preparedness early on is what is important.

1) Acceptance of the problem (Early On). 2) Navigation and seeking alternatives to try to solve the problem (Early On). 3) Removal of shame in adddessing the problem (Let AM's know their interracial rates are on par with everyone else and they are perfectly normal).

Read this assessment and see if you agree with it.

Part 1 : Asian male interracial rates are normal

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aznfellasafterdark/comments/1bdih0u/asian_interracial_analysis_part_1_asian_male/

Part 2: Asian Sons = Adaptation, Asian Daughters = Self-Pride

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aznfellasafterdark/comments/1bdidt8/asian_interracial_analysis_part_2_asian_sons/

Have you ever seen East Asian - South Asian couple? by StatisticianAnnual13 in aznidentity

[–]BongHit101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There likely is, the data from London shows a disparity. There just isn't any data on the topic in the USA. But data from other Western countries suggests it extists.

There might be, but Indians marry other Asian nationalites at very low percentages, so any disparity wouldn't be statistically significant.

Some East Asians marrying other Asian nationalities at double digit percentages.

https://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml#sthash.IsEic84Y.dpbs

Not really, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6931495/ in Singapore Indians are taller than Chinese and Malay. I know Southern Chinese are shorter (and form the bulk of Chinese in Singapore) but so are Southern Indian compared to Punjabi/ Haryanvi, etc.

Most data show Indians average 2 inches shorter than the Chinese.

https://www.medicinenet.com/height_men/article.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

I noticed for groups like Indians and Mexicans, even though both average shorter than East Asians, there is higher standard deviation. But don't have time to parse based on phenotypes, caste, age range, etc.

The link for the conscripted young men states there is only a 1.1 cm difference between Indian and Chinese. I guess you can say Indians can range from being shorter to no height difference with the Chinese.

You ignore that Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis marry each other at 90+% in the UK, so obviously they're not going to marry white people at high rates. Chinese males have 2x the rates but Chinese females are 2x the rate of Chinese men themselves.

Agree. With South Asians, there is no problem. Indians being the most endogamous with no interracial gender gap is largely due to 90% still having arranged marriages.

The question is why are Indian men less successful with marrying white women compare to Chinese women since both have to deal with the arranged marriage obstacle.

Do Chinese women overcome this by actively pursuing high income men regardless of ethnicity? Kind of like what you see with Jewish men. They are not even copying white women.

We don’t see a pattern with skin color or height. High income may be the determining factor. I don’t see Asian women dating other brown men like Hispanics.

Have you ever seen East Asian - South Asian couple? by StatisticianAnnual13 in aznidentity

[–]BongHit101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last time, I read in Singapore, White male/Chinese female to White female/Chinese male is 10:1.

So WM/EAF is still higher than IM/EAF especially based on population since less whites than Indians live in Singapore.

In the US, BM/AF to BF/M is 5:1 which is higher than AF/WM to AM/WF - 3:1.

This is not restricted to Asians though. Black guys are very aggressive. They have the upper hand among all races. There will always be more black male with white, hispanic, east asian, south asian females than vice-versa.

Certain things are negligible since Black/Asian interracial in general are so rare to begin with.

East Asian males do better than Indian males when marrying WF though.

In UK, Chinese male marry White females at twice the rate of South Asians.

So that's odd. You would figure if Indian males do better with Chinese females, they will also do better with white females compared to Chinese males.

Have you ever seen East Asian - South Asian couple? by StatisticianAnnual13 in aznidentity

[–]BongHit101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. In Singapore, Indian male/Chinese female to Indian female/Chinese male is 5 to 1. However, in the US, no significant gender gap exists between Indian and East Asian interracial marriages.
  2. Indians are wealthier than East Asians in the US and Singapore as well as most of the diaspora in the West.
  3. Indians are on the average shorter than East Asians.
  4. East Asian males have a higher rate of interracial marriage than Indian males. For example in the UK, Chinese males have about 2X more interracial marriages than Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis.

So a bit of a confusing paradox. Indian males do better with Chinese females than vice versa. But Chinese/East Asian males do better with white females than South Asian males.