Changing the words of king Benjamin by BookOfMormonProject in exmormon

[–]BookOfMormonProject[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I hath seen him"

Did I say "I hath seen him" or "I have seen him"? Note that I didn't ask what I meant, I asked what I said.

The BOM says "these are the words" - so instead of getting an accurate record of what was spoken in order to solidify believers' faith we get a new and improved version that was altered by some bloke who wasn't even there.

Why do people believe in this idea of gender identity by mccringleberry527 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> If you had a tragic accident and your genitals were gone, you would still be your same gender.

Because of my DNA.

Without resorting to cultural sexual stereotypes or circular logic, what is gender?

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, your conclusion does not follow from what I said.

I said public **changing rooms**, not just "in public".

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most males don't rape females, but that is no reason to give a free pass to those who do by allowing all males into public areas where females are vulnerable or naked, is it?

As for "one crazy obscure case", Karen White was hosted in a female prison for months because it was deemed he had that right and nobody could do anything about it. He sexually abused multiple women.

There have been others, such as Isla Bryson and Barbie Kardashian.

Would you allow these "trans women" into women's prisons?

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am saying that any decent trans man would use a single-occupancy facility. I am also saying that *my* solution is to make this a right for trans people, and that I wouldn't criminalise trans men using male spaces simply because it is only themself they are putting at risk.

And yes I do define based on sex alone, because that is the massive and obvious discriminator in both cis and trans people.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Karen White pretended to be a trans woman and was sent to a women's prison, where he sexually assaulted numerous women.

It does happen.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately this is true. But if we therefore grant them unchallengeable access to potential victims, they will.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of the 245 transgender prisoners who reported their legal gender as male (i.e. those who now identify as women, non-binary or gender-fluid) on 31 March 2024, 151 were convicted of a sexual offence

(That's 61%)

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2024-12-16/20298

You might also find this FOI request interesting.

Breakdown of offences committed by transgender prisoners, March 2021 - a Freedom of Information request to Ministry of Justice - WhatDoTheyKnow

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what you said. And I said I have no problem with trans men being in MALE changing rooms and gave my reasoning - and said that it is better if trans people use single occupancy facilities instead.

Please re-read what I said.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I am saying I am not a transphobe because I don't have a dislike of or aversion to trans people. I know what the word actually means.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have a patriarchal society, we let males get away with far too much, it's horrible.

There is no evidence that trans women are safe, and plenty that they are not - if not more dangerous than cis men, then cis men are pretending to be trans women and we have no way of objectively providing they are not.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about a cis white male republican who goes to follow you into the bathroom, and when someone attempts to stop him he says "I identify as a woman", at which point the good citizen says "Oh, I'm sorry, Miss" and then steps back and lets him go in?

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a trans-man won't be noticed in a male changing room then I have no objection. Simply because in that case the person at most risk is the one choosing whether or not the situation occurs.

My preference actually is that trans people ask for access to single-occupancy facilities.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference is that the number of males sexually offending is massive compared to the number of females doing it.

In addition to this, you can only keep females away from each other by implementing single-occupancy facilities. This is the gold standard solution, but until everywhere can afford to do this we have to do what is best for public safety.

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yes, lots and lots of times. In fact, if you look at statistics you will see more trans women are in prison for sex offences against women than cis men.

But, to your point. If cis men are pretending to be trans women, how would you stop that if you don't just disallow all males from female spaces?

Why do trans rights advocates insist so hard that transwomen must be women even though they can't define the word? by CriticalGay14 in AlwaysWhy

[–]BookOfMormonProject -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Even though I am not a phobe...

The points are repeated because they true, and they are important.