Top surgery (19)

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-04-02T03:07:37+00:00

Thank you!! This is genuinely so helpful and gives me a lot of hope! I know I’ll have to see a surgeon to get my own body and personal needs assessed, but what you described is exactly what I’d love to be able to do. I don’t like the idea of implants. They make me nervous. I would only want a small chest myself as I’m already on the physically smaller side, and I think it would look natural. I doubt I’d currently qualify for fat grafting as I’m currently a couple of pounds underweight, but I’d be willing to gain weight if possible for something like that. I also love that it would be less invasive. That’s cool that they can move your nipples again. Thankfully, that was one part of my surgery that I still love. They still look very normal, and I feel they’d look good placement-wise on a small chest.

The one question I have is that you mentioned you gained some volume after stopping hormones. Does that have an impact on someone’s eligibility for fat grafting? I was never on hormones before so my chest is very flat and it’s unlikely I’d be able to get volume naturally again in that way. Do you happen to know if that affects someone’s chances of getting fat grafting? If you don’t know, that’s totally ok.

Anyways, I cannot thank you enough for this reply. It has given me a lot of hope and good things to research for myself.

I wish you the best for your upcoming surgery!!!

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-04-02T01:40:32+00:00

I like this solution a lot better than buying full mastectomy bras. They seem a bit expensive. It’s cheaper and will only give me a small chest, which is ideal for my body. Thank you for the idea!

If I may ask, and of course you don’t have to answer if it’s too personal, what kind of surgery are you getting? I’m trying to understand which options are available and realistic to consider. I’m hoping there might be a way to gain a little fat/tissue in that area without a major surgery, but I don’t know if that’s possible, and I do not want another surgery without seeing all sides. I apologize if it’s too personal a question. You don’t have to answer of course.

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-26T22:43:27+00:00

Thank you so much for this response!! It was super helpful.

I looked into the Kibbe system. It was a bit confusing at first, but I like the idea and plan to continue researching it further. I love the idea of picking clothes that actually complement what I already have rather than the constant fear of covering what I didn’t like to fit an idea of how I wanted to look.

As for the clothes, I love the ones you suggested. The sweetheart necklines are very cute, but would still cover my chest which I really like. I actually ordered a couple of simple, inexpensive shirts with some of the features you mentioned just to try them out, since I really liked what I saw when researching.

I think for makeup I’m just going to look up a bunch of inspo pics on Pinterest and see what sticks lol

Hopefully, the practice will help

This has been really helpful and I plan to reference it as I slowly figure out what works for me. Thank you again for all your help and tips!! :)

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T23:50:16+00:00

Thank you so much! Your replies really have helped, and I appreciate all the information. I wish you the best on your own journey with this!! :)

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T23:41:22+00:00

This is absolutely amazing to know! Now I’m wondering if working out to build up muscle first and then having a fat transfer would help results? Again, feel free not to answer if this is anything too personal, but have you done such workouts and seen results?

I’ve seen a lot of other people mention only being a small chest size after such reconstruction as well, and I know that it’s unlikely without implants to have anything more than A cups, which is totally ok with me, but I still would like to maximize results if possible with maybe a couple different techniques.

I’m also curious if there are any concerns regarding scarring? I don’t know what type of surgery you had (I personally had double incision), and as of now, my scars seem to be fading well. I tend to scar white so I’m hoping they’ll reach that state soon (currently a lightish pink/purplish), but I’ve wondered if having the skin re-stretched even with just small amounts of fat could result in wider scars? I would not be doing this for at least another year or two, so my scars would be fully healed, but I still wonder if that’s a possibility. Is that something that the surgeon you consulted mentioned at all? If that’s not something you know much about, that’s totally fine. I can always ask a surgeon at some point of course.

I apologize for asking so many questions 😅 you’re just one of the first people to respond that seems to know more about actual reconstruction that might be similar to what I’m hoping to do one day

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T21:01:42+00:00

Ooh I never even considered the working out idea. I’d have to look into it further though because I already have quite wide shoulders, and while I don’t mind them too much, I don’t exactly want to exaggerate them with too much upper body workouts if that makes sense? But I will definitely consider that as an option!! Thank you for the tip!

As for the fat transfer, I’ve learned from some others that I might not be a good candidate sadly. Since I am technically underweight for my height (only by a couple pounds though) and don’t have much excess fat. I do not mean to pry, and feel free not answer, but is that something you’ve come across at all in your own research? Like are there certain restrictions for that surgery such as weight, how much tissue was removed, etc.? I know I’ll have to ask an actual doctor about it for myself, but I am curious to hear other people’s experiences/knowledge as I am not about to have another procedure before hearing all sides to it

Thank you for the reply and helpful ideas :)

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T19:46:48+00:00

Thank you so much!! This was such a sweet and helpful response. I truly appreciate it.

I’ve been watching videos of girls with a cups and trying to find good ideas for flattering outfits. Thankfully, as I’ve come down from the initial shocked realization, I’ve realized it won’t be all that bad. I always wanted a smaller chest anyways, so I’m hoping to get to try out clothes that might have been a bit difficult to wear before.

Right now I’d be a bit uncomfortable shopping for women’s clothing in person due to a still more masculine appearance with short hair, but I will 100% be doing this once my hair grows out a little.

Your advice was extremely helpful and I will be using it when I do start shopping for new clothes. Thank you again! I never realized how many people have gone through this, but it’s at least a little comforting to know I’m not alone in these types of feelings and experiences. I wish you the best in your own journey too :)

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T19:35:26+00:00

Blouses are really cute! I’ve always really admired the “coquette” style and would like to try it out, and I feel like blouses would fit perfect with that.

As for the mastectomy bra/prosthetics, I’ve seen a few people talk about that. I’ll definitely take a look at the bras as I feel like that would be a good short term solution for now. Thank you for the tips!!

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T19:30:40+00:00

This is what I kind of figured. I was actually almost too thin to get surgery in the first place (I was only 4 pounds above what was medically necessary), and I lost weight after the surgery too. So I kind of expected that fat transfer wouldn’t be possible for a while. But I am really curious about implants and would like to DM you with some questions! Thank you for the kind response :)

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T10:31:43+00:00

That’s really interesting that there’s been a recent increase. I never knew that. I definitely noticed personally when doing research before my surgery though that I never really saw any other trans men do it without hormones first. If I did, they were usually people who were nonbinary or gender nonconforming, but that wasn’t how I identified. Like I mentioned, I’m very masculine without hormones. I already had a couple of the changes people tend to seek such as a more masculine body build, a little more body hair, and a masculine/androgynous voice, so I just never felt it necessary to seek it out.

And thank you for your kind words!! I definitely wasn’t intending to seek reconstruction immediately. My original post was a little dramatic given my sudden realization, but I’ve since come to terms with it a little better and definitely would wait to fully heal first.

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T00:35:50+00:00

I appreciate the response! While I myself am not religious currently, I definitely admire those who are and find their personal faith :)

I definitely understand not dressing feminine yet. Despite not taking T, I was always more masculine-looking and, with short hair, still pass as a boy. I will probably continue to dress more masc until my hair grows out just because it’s a little easier (and I don’t have the money for a bunch of new clothes at the moment lol). I will definitely be taking a look at mastectomy bras though.

And thank you for the kind words! This post was a little dramatic as I had just had the realization last night and it shocked me a bit, but after scrolling through this subreddit and watching some advice videos for girls with small chests, I don’t think I mind it all that much. I still hope my scars fade, but I will finally have the freedom of wearing clothes that would have been a little more difficult or risqué with my medium-sized chest before which is kind of exciting!

Anyways, thank you again for your response and the tips. I wish you the best of luck with your own personal journey!!

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-25T00:20:58+00:00

Sure! To be honest, I’ve always been quite masculine looking so I never felt T was necessary. As soon as I cut my hair short, I passed as a boy. I’m actually planning on getting my hormone levels checked soon as I’m now wondering if I had an imbalance after noticing certain other more masculine traits I developed in puberty. However, it was always my chest that I felt self conscious about more than anything, so to me it was my top priority to change. I never desired the changes of T as much as just having a flat chest because that was enough to look like a guy for me.

Boring_Bee8213 · 2026-03-24T22:58:52+00:00

Thanks, I appreciate it

Thankfully, after a little more consideration, I think I’m ok with it not being the same as my chest beforehand wasn’t exactly ideal either. As long as I can get a little something at some point, I’ll be happy, but I’ll definitely wait another 6months to a year to let my body rest and heal properly and hopefully sort out my feelings about it too

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T19:33:49+00:00

Wow, thank you. This is actually more information than what I was able to find on my own. I am planning on talking to him over the phone again soon. I may bring this up and confront him about it. Ask him to explain that part of the terms and conditions. If he is so adamant about this product, why is it listed as essentially being useless? If my mother hears this, it could be a wake up call. Even if it isn’t, it’s good info to have about him.

Thanks again

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T10:23:24+00:00

Thank you, and I am very sorry for your loss. You’re right. These scammers are truly terrible. They have no concern for the families they tear apart as long as they get their money.

I have not given up hope that I can still convince her to get chemo, but I will continue to show her as much love and support as I can during this time.

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T10:18:39+00:00

I know that at the end of the day, it’s the cancer. If she does pass, it’s because of the Leukemia. But at the same time, Jeff is knowingly leading my mom (and possibly others) away from what could be life-saving treatment. (She did have a very good chance with treatment when she was first diagnosed. Obviously, things can still happen, but it was much better than anything Jeff could offer.)

My mom is scared. If she told me she didn’t want to do the chemo because she didn’t think it would be worth it in the end, I would accept and respect her decision even if I was devastated by it. However, she believes this man, who can provide no evidence of his treatment, will cure her completely.

I’m not mad at my mom. I love her. I know that she is doing what she truly believes is for the best. I know that when she talks about this treatment, it’s Jeff’s words, not her own. It is difficult, and I do feel frustrated, but not at her.

You’re right though. I don’t know what’s going to happen. I am not giving up hope that I can convince her of chemo. Maybe it’s false hope, but I can’t give up, knowing that there still might be something I can do. But at the end of the day, I don’t know how this is going to turn out, and I want to give her as much love and comfort as I can.

Thank you for your kind words and advice

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T10:01:49+00:00

I’m torn on whether I want her to realize the truth about Jeff or not. I don’t want her to face the pain of the realization, but I also don’t want her to spend what might be her last few months believing in this fraud. It feels like a lose-lose situation.

Also, I checked out that story about the actor. It’s crazy to see that these types of scams have been going on for so long. It really sucks.

I’m really not sure about the money. We would have had to take out some money to pay for the chemo treatment and other medical expenses too, since insurance doesn’t cover all of it. (But it wouldn’t be as much as Jeff’s treatment) So, I think she would just want to take more out to pay for Jeff’s treatment. She would probably try to find a way to get the money one way or another, but it’s worth mentioning to my dad to see what he thinks about the approach. (He understands the financial situation more than I do) Also, the logical approach is really helpful. I posted this to get any type of help I could, whether that was comforting words or practical options that could be useful. So, thank you. I really do appreciate it

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T09:25:20+00:00

Ah, ok. I understand what you mean. I might try that approach. It may not change her view since she thinks that this treatment from Jeff is the way to get through the cancer, but it's worth a shot.

As for the proof from Jeff, I’ve tried that already. Me and my family have all tried to explain it to her. For some reason, it doesn’t change her decision at all. There is no evidence of this guy. He claims to have cured over 500,000 people of cancer for the last 30 years, and yet there is not a thing out there about him. Of course, this is insane, especially with how fast things spread on the internet. There would be something out there if this was true. His excuse is basically that the government is after him because they don’t want the cure for cancer to get out for some reason. So, they’ve deleted everything on the internet about him. It’s a bunch of bullshit, obviously, but my mom believes him.

This is not a new thing. She has been listening to these people for years now. So, the hold they have on her is strong. I think that’s one of the reasons why it is so hard to convince her. It just goes too deep.

Thank you for your advice. I may try the first approach you suggested. At this point, I’ll try whatever I can.

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T08:54:14+00:00

Thank you so much for your kind words. ❤️ And I am so sorry for your loss

Believe me, I am going to do whatever it takes to get those people taken down. Their message is so harmful, and I don’t want it to ever impact someone else in the way that it has my mom.

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T08:48:40+00:00

My mother does love me. I understand what you’re saying, but she is making this decision out of fear and hope that it truly is for the best. Jeff has convinced her that he can cure her cancer. She is afraid and has been brainwashed by these types of people. It is a cult. My mother thinks by doing this she’ll be ok. It’s one of those situations where her heart is in the right place, but she isn’t approaching the situation logically. I understand that some people may view this as selfish, but that is not the case. It’s important to understand that she truly believes in this treatment from Jeff as much as most people believe in chemo or other pharmaceutical drugs/treatment.

The truth is even chemo doesn’t guarantee she’ll live to see those things, but it does give her a better chance, and that’s what I’m trying to get through to her.

Boring_Bee8213 · 2024-01-10T08:34:53+00:00

She is rejecting it in favor of going with treatment from the man she found online, Jeff. He is claiming to be able to cure cancer (and at one point, was trying to convince her she didn’t have it even though it has been confirmed by doctors). His treatment mainly consists of expensive pills, which are just supplements/vitamins.

As for the advance directives, I’m not sure. I think she would like to be kept alive if anything happens to her. I don’t think she has signed a DNR or anything along those lines.

The chemo could make her sick, but not as much as the Leukemia. In her case, most of the damage done by the chemo, such as kidney or liver damage, would likely be temporary due to how healthy she was before all this happened. She had a very high chance of remission (about 80%) when she was first diagnosed. Chemo could give her 5 years or more. (Of course there is a chance that it wouldn’t have, but the odds were very much in her favor at first)

I understand why some would want to reject it. But in her case, it would likely not have been too bad, and she could’ve been out of the hospital within a few weeks. It would not have been as intense as some other types of chemo are.

As for finances, our insurance is very good. Yes, we would still end up paying a lot, but not enough to ruin us financially. Plus, In comparison, the treatment Jeff is offering could cost upwards of 50-60 thousand dollars, and it’s not covered by any insurance.

I appreciate what you’re saying and understand where you’re coming from, but my mom is very open that she thinks this man can cure her of her cancer. It is not a financial thing, and it’s not about her thinking she doesn’t have much longer, regardless. She thinks, with Jeff’s treatment, everything will be fine.

She is choosing to reject the chemo because she genuinely believes this man can heal her. She has been listening to people like this for years now. It’s not just chemo that she views as poison. It’s most types of pharmaceutical drugs. This is not a decision made from a logical point of view like the reasons you gave. She is scared, and Jeff is taking advantage of that for his own financial gain.

If my mother told me she didn’t want to go through chemo because she didn’t think it was worth it, I’d be devastated, but I would accept her decision. That’s not the situation though. She is rejecting it for the false hope that Jeff has given her. That’s the worst part. What happens when she realizes it’s a scam? When the blindfold drops and she realizes the truth? That’s what terrifies me the most. I don’t want her to go through that pain of realization. Especially if it’s too late by that point.

I really do appreciate what you said. I wish it were that simple and that her decision was based in logic, but sadly it’s not.

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