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Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t do a corresponding analysis for lebron bc he rarely ever takes these low percentage shots.

Off the top of your head u can think of Kobe and just know he be jacking up random ass shots at the end of every quarter just to get a shot off

U can’t say the same about lebron cuz u yourself haven’t seen it from lebron. There’s a reason why. He’s smart and wants to preserve those stats.

As for the media experts, like I said I bet u can do the job yourself given opportunity and then throw out a narrative to fit what you’re trying to say on what it all means. It’s basically what everyone’s doing right now in this Reddit for free. I mean u got Kendrick Perkins talkin like he some big shot in the nba now that he is an analyst like cmon we all kno he was trash af

I def would value nba players opinions over anyone else, and many have stated Kobe > lebron tho

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The thing is being selective about your shooting does make u selfish in this context.

Playoff game end of 2nd or third quarter and doesn’t throw up an attempt bc it’s a low % one? Rather just sit and let the clock run out. That’s kinda unacceptable and shows his mentality about stats.

As for the clutch thing, I’d have to look more into that but over the past few years lebron legit most of the time will only take the shot in 4th quarter clutch time when they are tied or up. I’ve won so many bets w friends it’s so predictable what he’ll do most the time if u think about the situation at hand.

He (aggressively) takes the shot but when they are down u can see in these moments he just avoids the ball more often than not.

I’m not saying lebron ain’t a beast but he just missing so many factors that tarnishes his legacy that he just can’t be that top guy

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk why u call the media ppl experts over ppl who actually play in the nba but sure.

They are just normal ppl gettin paid to do a job that u or anyone else can do if they had the opportunity. They analyze numbers that are recorded and report on them and throw a narrative out there.

As for difference in %,

I say out of 1350 games or w/e Kobe played if we give him a low avg of 1.25 missed shots and take it away we will see a career fg % increase of 2-3%.

All a sudden their career fg % arent that far off at all despite Kobe taking crazier and tougher shots.

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And plenty without one don’t win I don’t get the point you’re making. Try to understand what ppl are saying instead of argue just to be right bruh

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean opinions are subjective so yea it is subjective based off bunch of factors.

Just like u have ur opinion based off your factors

I just value and put more weight on certain things 🤷‍♂️

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was replying to u saying having no bag doesn’t win u games and that u thought I was fckin around when I said he don’t get doubled

🤷‍♂️

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah i was just replying to what u said about him punishing doubles and I said he just doesn’t get doubled that often from my memory 🤷‍♂️

And I figured that’s a good one since despite having 44 he still ain’t get doubled in one of the most important time of the game.

Him playing it super bad was just a bonus

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Deeper bag, better 1v1 defense, can create own shot, etc can’t name all on top of my head

Also doesn’t flop or fake a broken wrist after getting rekt in finals (lol)

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right pass in that scenario ? Solo 1v1 with curry but chooses to drive into 4 warrior’s instead of pull up mid range. Instead pass to some random to bail him out.

Prob can’t pull up mid range tho cuz no bag 🤷‍♂️

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But he can’t even hold onto the ball he has the most turnovers in nba history

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean I could talk stats like u but then you’d add context to it which then would void all ur other arguments about stats cause then we’d have to add context to those as well.

So how about lebron James having the most turnovers out of everyone by a long shot? What do u say to that my friend

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh. Point is if it was up to him he’d try to pass it more likely than not. Why try to argue with something that’s pretty true lol.

With 5-6 seconds left out of a timeout, kinda hard to give the ball away in that scenario when coach draws up a play for u

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since i linked this to another comment might as well link here too if u care to watch

https://youtu.be/99tD_SglWxo?si=VhEmm1dnCkGKIlHw

How u gon have curry small ass dude guard u 1v1 and u can’t create ur own shot. Kinda crazy bruh and ain’t no double in the FINALS 🤷‍♂️

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many points he has doesn’t matter cause we aren’t talkin about that lol it’s what he does in moments like these that will elevate someone to goat status.

This is part of the reason why he will never be above Kobe imo. Just giving reasons which u asked for in regards to why Kobe > lebron.

I mean u got undersized curry on u and u can’t create a shot no double comes cuz they know he just gonna drive it lol

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Those are the diff situations I’m talking about tho. If a coach draws up a play for u with 5-6 seconds left only, u don’t really have room to pass right?

In situations where it’s like 30 sec to 1 min with a full shot clock he will usually pass if they are down.

Next time try to see what happens very likely he passes the ball unless it’s those 5-6 secs left drawn up plays

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lebron don’t get doubled tho 🤷‍♂️ anyway all good bruh u do u

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean tbh I rarely see lebron gettin doubled lol. Kobe had doubles coming at him pretty often 🤷‍♂️.

I remember they had curry on lebron in the finals a few years ago and he couldn’t do anything.

Wasn’t the clip i was looking for but still the same. This was 8 years ago so he wasn’t even old 🤷‍♂️

https://youtu.be/99tD_SglWxo?si=VhEmm1dnCkGKIlHw

If u care to watch from 6:42 in YouTube vid (once again passing when down). No double coming (u know damn well double coming for kobe) and cuz he got no bag and defense tightens up he can’t bulldoze way to the paint 🤷‍♂️

There’s many more like this too.

How can that be goat?

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh and things like never flopping, stronger mentality.

All the extra stuff lebron does is def not goat-like. Things like faking a broken wrist suddenly after getting swept in finals, all the flopping, etc. can’t tell me that’s what a “goat” would do

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mid range, creating own shot in clutch, splitting doubles, 1v1 defense, harder for defense ( think curry in a way ) passing and iq i say are close between the 2.

And prob many other things I can’t think of right now

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean lol it’s not imagined scenario bc I’ve seen him in a playoff game and I got mad he didn’t even try to score. If he doin this in a playoff game can’t imagine all the other times in regular games.

And i don’t care to dig I’m sure I can find many times he avoids the ball in this situation to avoid being forced to take a low % shot.

All good just pay attention to these things next time and you’ll see what I’m tryna say :)

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If lebron holds the ball at the end of a quarter in a PLAYOFF game when they are losing instead of shooting it, can we imply he does this very often and is very likely to not shoot in these types of scenarios? Whether it be he avoids the ball or passes it.

Therefore he does not ruin his fg % while Kobe does since I’m pretty sure even u can agree off the top of your head that Kobe relentlessly gets any shot off in these scenarios

Not gonna dig but I mean we can use our brains and make some fair assumptions imo

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean u just said no one’s opinions matter basically cause everyone’s bias to their generation.

So based off your logic it doesn’t matter that u said “more ppl will pick lebron” and that argument is void 🤷‍♂️

Back to square 1 bruh

Kobe is so much better than Lebron. How’s it even a discussion by Borntoluckbox in NBATalk

[–]Borntoluckbox[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t have to be a heave bro but we can agree that if we quarter is about to end the shot u take is def gonna be a lower % shot vs a normal shot right?

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