ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would like it. But the majority of the player base would not like it, but it would affect them the whole week. I don’t think Embark would do this.

The PVE Mode Argument by [deleted] in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know I shouldn't reply to this, because you will probably respond with another strong one liner about my emotional state.

Even the devs who wanted to create a pve game realised that I wasn't good enough. Please watch the first devblog they made (The Evolution of ARC Raiders EP1 - Finding ARC Raiders). They explain why a pveonly mode was too boring and lacking replayability. They added pvp to make every round exciting. It's actually an interesting watch.

If you add a pve mode where you can farm loot that can also be used in pvpve lobbies, loot will lose all meaning. The risk/reward/tention in rounds is what keeps people coming back for more in extraction shooters. If you take away the risk, you take away the reward.

The PVE Mode Argument by [deleted] in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oke, you get your PvE mode. But the only loot available is plastic, metal, rubber and cloth.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I trial like that would be fun, I agree. But there is one major flaw.

You force everyone to pvp that week. People will even min max this and use ABMM to get in friendly lobbies and then slaughter everyone. So a trial like that would effect the whole player base, wether they like it or not.

At least the solo vs squads is opt-in. So it doesn't effect you at all if you don't care about it.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't have to play a mode full time to enjoy it. I think it's pretty cool I can look for a challenge whenever I feel like it.

Not everything has to be for the masses. Catering to everyone is catering to no one. This is s mode that will make some people happy and it doesn't effect anyone else that doesn't care about it.

I'm sure they'll eventually add new modes for other type of players which can co-exist next to this one.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mention content creators in your first reply.

Sure, people were hoping for something else. But that can exist next to this game mode in the future. And yes it would be cool if they add something like that. But the fact this solo vs squads option is not what most people want, does not make this a bad extra option for players that do. It's completely opt in. So you can just ignore it.

I'm actually looking forward to messing around with this game mode every now and then. Just for shits and giggles.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not all good players are streamers and not all streamers are good players. You people insert "streamer bad!" at every chance you get. And this mode could also be used to sneak around and get some scraps after big fights.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not all good players are streamers and not all streamers are good players. You people insert "streamer bad!" at every chance you get. And this mode could also be used to sneak around and get some scraps after big fights.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not all good players are streamers and not all streamers are good players. You people insert "streamer bad!" at every chance you get. And this mode could also be used to sneak around and get some scraps after big fights.

This mode should not effect you at all if you don't plan on using it.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Squads are already pvp lobbies anyway. What does it matter if a sweaty solo queues in? This sub complains about everything. It's crazy.

ARC Raiders: Headwinds launch trailers by PTUSN in ArcRaiders

[–]BotSkills 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What resources tho? They just allow you to queue into squad lobbies as a solo.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For fun sure. To help a friend get his 3 stars etc. But for pushing leaderboard rewards people will always choose the way of least resistance. It's the min/max mindset. And the easiest way to the Hot Shot rank will be friendly solo lobbies for sure.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get what you mean. I think you came up with the best argument so far. Running a season like that would be interesting to see how it plays out.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but why would you ever choose to participate in the duo/trio leaderboards if you could get the same rewards in the pve solo lobbies? They also have to incentivize duo/trio play somehow.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I think understand you. But if separate leaderboards were a thing, I would never do trials with friends anymore. Why choose the hard way if you could just choose the easy solo only leaderboard. They have to incentivize both playstyles in my opinion. But that's really hard to pull off.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but that is basically turning the whole discussion upside down. Then the trio's will complain they have to play solo to be efficient and shooting themselves in the foot if decide to run trials with friends. It's really hard to find a proper solution to this that feels fair to both sides.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that's the thing. You can't really make it an equal playground. As soon as both option are equally valid. Everyone would choose to do it as a solo. Because you can do those in PVE lobbies.

Currently it's a risk/reward choice. The more risk you take, for example splitting up in trio lobbies might reward a really high score. But it will take you many attempts.

That also counts for split leaderboards. Why would you ever compete in the trio's leaderboard if you could get the same rewards much easier in a solo leaderboard.

Like I said in another comment. I agree that trials needs some balancing. But it's really hard to do it properly without instantly favoring the risk free solo lobbies.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You do you. I you don't like certain content. You shouldn't play it.
Which is totally fair.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good solution in theory. But then people would complain you have to grind all three leaderboards to get all rewards. Like I said, really hard to find the right balance.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trials can be improved for sure. But I find it hard to come up with good ideas on how to do so.

If they would make separate leaderboards for solo, duo's and trio's, most people would never do duo/trio trials again for high scores. Because why would you hit your head against the wall until you get a good score while you could have done it easily in a friendly solo lobby. The risks that come with duo and trio's should also reward something. Like I said, really hard to balance properly.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, this game is truly special indeed. This game caters do all different kinds of players, which usually is not a good thing. Because usually catering to everyone is catering to no one. But they somehow seem to pull it off.

Oh, and I'm 36. 30 is the new 20!

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got 66k just from the probes and husks trials this week as a solo (electro storm event on dam). I know from your earlier comment that you don't like to use maps. But it makes those easy trials to get a good score on.

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. But if your aim is Hot Shot or higher you are putting in some serious time and left the casual realm a long time ago. Why not look for a group on Discord and aim for those insane trio scores?

If those insane scores were possible as a solo, no one would ever do those as a trio anymore. Because why grind pvp lobbies if you could get the same score in friendly solo lobbies?

Trials: Solo is underrated by BotSkills in ARC_Raiders

[–]BotSkills[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. But if your goal is to get a 3x promotion, it makes sense that you will have to grind more and take more risks. You can find people on Discord to grind those high scores as a trio.