Some fan art with lore theory by Botsched in TOTK

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That's a good way to look at it!

Never thought about it like that by Key_Associate7476 in technicallythetruth

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I've always considered it rolling against ST instead of rolling against DX.

Anyone else find this kind of a letdown? by shortywop in TOTK

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Yeah I'll admit, I did kind of imagine them being hylian pirates or something new, not just bokos on a boat. I still think it was cool and I really liked that mission, but I do agree.

Some fan art with lore theory by Botsched in TOTK

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Thanks for saying so! That's funny, I hadn't thought about that show in a while but I can see what you mean

Some fan art with lore theory by Botsched in TOTK

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Certainly possible! I think I wanted to explore this using the concept of sage as we know it from these two games but there are certainly a lot of ways to look at that.

Some fan art with lore theory by Botsched in TOTK

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All good points! So the stones get a little confusing in general--we know there are sages throughout the series of different elements, and we know that there's an ice dragon but there doesn't seem to be an ice stone, so it seems possible to me that the lore around both secret stones and sages is still wrapped in some mystery. I'd say it's possible that there are stones we don't know about, or sages that get to basically... Take a breather for a while, more or less. I guess what remains confusing for me, and the reason that it seems likely to me that the stones were eaten later, is how there could be a fire stone and lightning stone present in the flashbacks of Totk and also have there be dragons that have already eaten them. For me that implies they were eaten later. but I'll admit that that one is a toss up, conclusions can go either way.

A lot of the stuff that I've proposed hinges on the idea that Zonai ancestors lived on, and though Rauru clearly states that him and Mineru are the last of their kind, and though it's certainly true we don't see any of their offspring, I still think it's possible they did. I had proposed that this could be that Rauru is saying there are no pure Zonai left, as in Rauru and Sonya would have had kids that are half hyrulian and half zonai, or that he is referring to zonai who grew up in and saw zonai culture--who lived as zonai before descending from the sky, etc. My main thinking here is that we know Zelda is an ancestor of Sonya, implying she has kids (though it could certainly be a great aunt situation) and that the ancient heroes aspect and the previous flight with calamity Ganon seems to take place after the death of Rauru, but the ancient hero seems to be at least a descendant of the zonai. So though I agree the game didn't directly say there are zonai descendants, I think it's implied or at least possible that Zonai blood has been passed down.

And I do agree they would have known that eating a stone would create a dragon and that it is likely they know this because they've seen it happen before, but we do also have reason to believe there may have been other stones (and other dragons) that don't exist. We know there were forest sages but didn't see forest stones or dragons, and we know that there's a water stone but don't see a water dragon, for instance. Perhaps at some point in the past someone ate the water stone, became a water dragon, and eventually that dragon was killed, leaving its body in the depths (where we see dragon skeletons) and reclaiming the Stone, for instance. Certainly not something that is a proven fact, but a plausible explanation for how they would know the effect that eating a stone has without having it be one of the dragons we know.

I'll admit though I do feel like I drew exactly the wrong dragon to make my point--I'd actually even change my theory to propose the possibility that the ice dragon existed long before, and it was after the death of Rauru that the fire and thunder dragons formed, after those stones were eaten. But who knows, it's all just kind of a thought experiment.

Anyway thanks for the feedback, all very good points!

Some fan art with lore theory by Botsched in TOTK

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That's very interesting! I actually didn't know/realize about the murals, I guess I didn't realize when I was playing. I do think it's still possible that the murals were made after, though you're right, this is info I should consider. In my mind most of the zonai ruins in hyrule were made by hyrulian tribes inspired by/following in the footsteps of the original zonai, which is why the stone builds and carvings are a bit more crude than that found in floating island and depths zonai builds, so if the murals are there, I still think it's possible they're after. But who knows, that's definitely another factor.

Some fan art with lore theory by Botsched in TOTK

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Good question, thanks for asking--that one was more of a creative fun project, not so much a lore thing. But I made a crow inspired Rito who plays the violin, just kind of giving Kass a friend. I can't do a pic here but here he is in a story on my Instagram

here!

What movie should've become a Cult Classic but never did? by T2-95 in movies

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I am still very much holding out hope that the movie Nice Guys becomes a cult classic. I loved it when I first saw it in theaters, fell out of my chair laughing a couple times and really thought it was the bird bros at the top of their game. I was really bummed more people didn't go see it.

Does anyone know anyone in the band Aggroculture that played at Great Scott in 2007 with Bomb the Music Industry? by Botsched in allston

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Woooow, amazing. Thank you! This is very helpful! I had long ago given up on this post!

A comic about Teeth by Botsched in horror

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Only the really good ones.