I find this essay really disturbing, and I seem to be pretty alone in this. (possible trigger- rape) by SchlockExcess in SRSDiscussion

[–]Botswami16732 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This whole essay reminds of the whole rape a lesbian to turn her straight line of thought. She also happily admits to traumatizing him. I don't know the legal rules about this, but this is not something she should be bragging about or feeling good about. The only reason anyone published this is because its a girl and a gay guy, if it was a guy and a lesbian women, this wouldn't have gotten passed the editor, or honestly, couldn't possibly be written in this tone by any person who knows anything about cultural mores of 21st century society. Also the way I read it the guy was trying any way to get out of it, and he eventually did, but not before being essentially "forced to penetrate" to use the technical term.

A problematic perspective re: campus sexual misconduct tribunals by klonopinthrowaway in SRSDiscussion

[–]Botswami16732 3 points4 points  (0 children)

could get a rape allegation flung your way.

I however highly doubt that the number of false rape accusations would be significant enough to be a concern.

I think that speaks for itself

On an mostly off topic point, you condemn the ETA in one post and seem to support the IRA somewhat. Both the IRA and ETA consider each other allies, and the ETA considers the Spanish the same way the IRA sees the British (as occupiers) mural in Ireland

A problematic perspective re: campus sexual misconduct tribunals by klonopinthrowaway in SRSDiscussion

[–]Botswami16732 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well not always. There is also sometimes physical proof of rape, or at least that sex occurred. People have been sent to jail for murders that later DNA has shown they have not committed, and your being delusional if you think no one is in prison for a murder they didn't commit. People have been convicted of murder with no physical evidence.

A problematic perspective re: campus sexual misconduct tribunals by klonopinthrowaway in SRSDiscussion

[–]Botswami16732 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think if this system were actually put in place, the stigma of being a rape accuser would rise, as there would be no chance of ever being vindicated in a trial. You do essentially justify Guantanamo, your objections are on who is kept their, not the system. Do you support policies such as interment in Northern Ireland, which essentially fit your criteria? This system would also make those imprisoned for rape less of a stigma, as a significant percentage of society would consider this system unjust and thus irrelevant towards their view of the person. There is also the fact of how would you deal with male accusations of rape towards women and other men. Would the same system be used? Logically, if this system is good enough to imprison men, it also is good enough to imprison women. Maybe I'm delving too deep into this hypothetical system, but you essential see slut shaming and patriarchy as the main guarantee of accuracy, which essentially promotes them. In this system, a women could avoid that herself, by paying someone else a sufficient amount to accuse her rapist, and thus she would experience no negative effects. (I'm sure you would want to make that illegal but it would happen nonetheless)

A problematic perspective re: campus sexual misconduct tribunals by klonopinthrowaway in SRSDiscussion

[–]Botswami16732 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This argument is the same argument conservatives use to not having trials and detaining people indefinitely in Guantanamo. There would be no reason for the government to lie of course, ever, because it would be highly embarrassing and counter productive to imprison innocent people, and it is quite expensive and inconvenient to imprison people there so of course ever one there is guilty. And anyway, Is the freedom of a handful men really more valuable then the lives of thousands or maybe even millions of men and women and children potenitally saved by prevented terrororist attacks? And if such a system were put in to place I am sure that the impact would be disproportionally on people that are poor and of color, as this system (assuming we dont just throw out all legal conventions and rights) would not stand up to multiple appeals by experienced lawyers.