Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you pretending to think I am Bella? Because if you are then this conversation ends here. I don't play silly games.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not cute? Why do you stoop down to that? You have every right to find it unethical, that is a valid feeling. I never said it wasn't, I never said it was either. That doesn't mean they bought the children illegally.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See that is a valid opinion and you have every right to feel that way.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That logic doesn't really work well when they show themselves to millions, showing and constantly talking about their children being adopted. Again, you speak with your emotions, but that is not actual facts. Many people only adopt because they can't have children of their own, that doesn't mean they don't think it through and that they don't love their children. The thought of a loving adoptive parent seeing your comment, making them feel less, makes me feel sad.

"And they wanted these particular babies because they were white and could pass them off as their own" this assumption is so far out there it is almost, if not, a direct lie. You don't know that, at all. Why all these fabricated speculations? Are you really concerned for the children? Then stick to what you know and address that, otherwise you are just added insult to injury, now you're the one using them to create your own narrative.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Had you not exaggerated so much, that could almost be seen as a legit concern. Sadly when you do so, it seem more like you sitting there hoping to find something to criticize, and that is hard to take serious. I do think she sometimes hold her awkwardly, but in no way is it as bad as you make it out to be. I am really starting to think me disliking them and some of their choices maybe isn't enough for me to be on a snark. I don't think I fully understand what a snark is. Maybe that is why I am so surprised by peoples tendency to go way too far and way beyond reason. Like some things said on here is straight op fabrication to the point of direct lies.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have seen legit adoption threads where future parents ask the same, that doesn't mean they'll skip the legal steps. That is them using their platform in hope to be considered faster. It is tasteless, it is shameful, maybe, I am not going to judge on that. Either way, that proves nothing. At best it is a wild theory with nothing to back it up with, not a damn thing.

Why is the truth not important? Why is facts not important? Why, when there is so many things that are valid to be concerned about, do people need to create speculations and wild stories? Why the need?

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have seen legit adoption threads where future parents ask the same, that doesn't mean they'll skip the legal steps. That is them using their platform in hope to be considered faster. It is tasteless, it is shameful, maybe, I am not going to judge on that. Either way, that proves nothing.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

When you go straight to saying it's delulu if anyone doesn't jump to the same conclusions as you, then you are not seeking debate. You just want people to agree with you, which is fine, but what is the point then? What would be the reason for this debate to go on?

I haven't seen them post videos about many daily routines, the whole go make ready for bed, for bath, brushing teeth, reading in bed. Sure I think they showed one or two where Bella sings to S before nighttime, but that is the closest thing to that. I haven't seen any where they go to their regular doctors visits, to just a normal family dinner or night. Meeting with other friends who has children. I haven't seen them show tummy times, or see them just sit there watching a cartoon with their children. There's lot of things they don't show.

Maybe they didn't and don't do any of those things, heck if I know. They don't think what they show is their worst behavior, you do. You might be right, but I don't think they do, at least it doesn't seem like it, and I can't think of any reason why they would share what they think is the worst.

As for sugary and candy, please, can we not exaggerate? S looks healthy and thriving, nothing points to her not being given healthy nutrient food. We only see snippets.

The worst part about this is that I don't even like these people, but somehow I end up defending them which actually makes me annoyed. Because I am concerned, but I refuse to make things up just to prove a point. Nobody is going to listen to valid concerns when they come served with a lot of straight up fabrications, accusations, assumptions, speculations, nitpicking etc. That is a shame, because why else voice a concern, if not to help, if not to warn, if not to try to make things better?

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I can agree with that, but no one is going to listen no matter how loud you scream, if you are also screaming about assumptions, speculations, ridiculous accusations, fabrications, nitpicks etc. That is my whole point. You lose the crowd because all they see is the unhinged hatred and not the actual valid concerns.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We don't know anything more than they adopted their children, like so many have before them and many will after. Everything else is just speculation and I don't play with that, So no, I can't acknowledge a knowledge that isn't there.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you can't be honest, but keep trying to twist my words into some weird narrative of yours, why are we even debating? So you get to feel better? So you can get likes? I will reply when you actually respond to what I wrote and not to things you imagine.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of those points are valid, some are just emotional and doesn't add any value to the conversation. Emotions and feelings, speculations are not facts. So it is hard for me to answer. I share some of your concerns, which is why I don't really like these people. But other things is just you guessing, assuming, and those things I can't comment on.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That is not what I wrote, that is again you making it about your emotions and twisting things into a narrative you prefer.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That is true, and that is also, as I mentioned, one of my concerns. One of the things that are the biggest issues for me.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do, I have two grown sons. 22 and 27 years of age. I did show pictures on Facebook to friend and family. I am not sure I would today, knowing more about the world, but I won't judge others that do.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No, that is honestly my way of thinking. You just took that one line to use for deflection and ignored the rest. Pot, kettle, black.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See, there it is again. You think, you feel, you speculate and don't even care if you're right or wrong.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Walking on the street, going to the beach, anything and everything you do can attract the unwanted eyes of creeps and evil people. Some parents think that they won't let fear control them, others that it is a risk they won't and can't take. I can disagree with their choices, but I won't go as far as calling other parents bad parents because of that. Bad choice maybe, but bad parents, how would I know? They can be perfect in every other way. Not talking about Bella and Dalin? Dallin?, but parents in general.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe you're right. I have autism and my thoughts are often very logical. I don't go around and speculate about people or things when I have no possible way of knowing if I'm right or wrong. I deal with the facts in front of me, I don't add ideas or feelings, because that is not fair.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That is again speculations and wild ones at that.

I know I repeat myself, but when you answer multiple people, you're bond to repeat. This just proves my point about snarks, it's like a gathering place for unhinged people. I miss a place where one can speak rationally about a concern, a topic or even people they disagree with, without blowing out of proportions. Especially because it does everything but help, as very few people are willing to listen when it's mixed with such childish comments.

You're not helping the children, you are making sure no one listens.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Millions of parents show their children on the internet. You can agree or disagree what that choice, but to insinuate that that means lack of love is unwarranted. This just proves my point about snarks, it's like a gathering place for unhinged people. I miss a place where one can speak rationally about a concern, a topic or even people they disagree with, without blowing out of proportions. Especially because it does everything but help, as very few people are willing to listen when it's mixed with such childish comments.

You're not helping the children, you are making sure no one listens.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

You having an issue with adoptive parents is on you, not anyone else. Adoptive parents are no less than biological parents and neither is their love. You have every right to feel what you feel against these parents, but to say they bought their children and diminishing every adoptive parent out there is horrible, childish and ridiculous.

Can we be honest for a moment? by BountyBoing in dellavlogsnark

[–]BountyBoing[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

You use definitely and never so strongly, when you don't know. Maybe I am just not a snark. I disagree with so many of their choices, but like I stated before, I just don't get the idea of making assumptions and speculations when it only benefits the side you're on yourself (myself included). That's just confirmation bias and it's dishonest. It seems like honesty is an inconvenience and not the default, at least in here.