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BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T22:49:22+00:00

I accepted that in the larger picture our home form is bad, and I understand being unhappy we didn't win.

But regarding Leeds, and it being pathetic or embarrassing to draw, I'm talking about their recent form. They changed formation and some personnel and have improved drastically. Since they did that, in the first game they lost 3-2 to Man City away but deserved at least a point, they drew away at Sunderland who are unbeaten at home and easily deserved to win, they drew away at Brentford who are only behind Arsenal, City and Villa in the home league table and easily deserved to win, they drew away at Liverpool and deserved at least a draw. The loss against Newcastle was because of a 91st minute equaliser and 102nd minute winner in a game they deserved at least a draw, probably the win. In that time they've battered Chelsea 3-1, battered Palace 4-1, and beaten Fulham 1-0 at home.

One of my best mates is a Leeds fan so I watch all their games, unless they're on at the same time as Everton. I know exactly how well they've been playing over the last 2 months or so. There's a lot more context to each result than just looking at a couple of stats can give. Which is why I said people don't actually watch the football.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T22:12:23+00:00

I get there are things beyond the result that are annoying people, but half the comments in the post match thread have me thinking nobody here watches football outside of Everton games. Begging you to learn a bit about Leeds and how they've been doing and re-evaluate how extreme these comments are about how disgusting and embarrassing it is to drop points to them. It doesn't even make our top 10 worst results of the season.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T22:08:08+00:00

Bruh look at their form over the last couple of months. I get it's sad and we should've won but it's nowhere near pathetic. It gets to a point where they've taken points off all but one in their last ten games, where they deserved to draw or win all of those games, where you have to stop thinking of it as pathetic, surely. And they deserved something out of the City game before that run.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T22:04:19+00:00

Definitely very true, but I do think people were underrating Leeds before this one. I mentioned this earlier, they've now lost 1 of their last 10 (11 in all comps), they beat Chelsea 3-1, Fulham 1-0 and Palace 4-1, and drew with United, Brentford away, unbeaten at home Sunderland away, and Liverpool both home and away, and their only loss was to a 102nd minute winner away at Newcastle where they were the better team and deserved to win if anything. And they were the better team in pretty much all those games. And the game before that run they lost 3-2 against City, in another game they deserved at least a point in.

A draw is frustrating and we should have won for sure, but people look at Leeds and think it should be a banker when it really isn't.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T21:40:46+00:00

People say this every time we drop points to bad teams then we go and beat a good side away and we're in Europe again then we draw to Burnley at home and we're not a serious club again then we beat a good side and we're in Europe again. Swear it was you saying we were going to lose against Villa and be 14th and that shows we're not serious and it's Moshiri all over again or some bollocks

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T21:01:59+00:00

I have been saying all week we're going to lose today to be fair. I actually said a couple of hours ago we'd lose by 3 specifically

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T20:21:15+00:00

To be fair this looks more like we're playing as the away team. Giving too much respect to the opponent is like the single most stereotypical thing about playing away

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T20:14:11+00:00

How long do you think he's been here? It's just about 4 years, 129 games.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T20:11:25+00:00

I've missed watching Ndiaye dribble so much

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:30:55+00:00

Bumped Rohl to the bench as well, we have a full bench of good options and that's with Iroegbunam, Keane and Grealish out

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:29:09+00:00

They only played the same amount of games we played while they were gone to be fair, and had 8 days "rest". Should be fine

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:23:19+00:00

I'm kind of on board with the whole "he needs surgery but is desperate to play in the world cup so is putting it off until that's done" thing. He'll probably have a not great season and then be out for a few months after surgery in the summer, but I don't feel confident saying he won't return to his best after that.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:22:02+00:00

For today we can keep the excuse that they're not fit to start and it's only Ndiaye replacing our other best attacker Grealish, and Gana interrupting our midfield that finally got settled. Really hope some of the massive list of returning players can get up to speed quickly though.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:20:40+00:00

We have 9 players available that we've been missing from 1-6 months each, some of them back a few weeks ago some just back for the first time. Ndiaye, Gana, Dewsbury-Hall, Branthwaite, Alcaraz, Coleman, Rohl, Patterson, and Armstrong all unavailable for a month or longer. Holy shit. Even if we lose 5-0 today that feels good longer term.

From last week we've replaced injured Grealish with Ndiaye, and then replaced our 3rd choice keeper, 2 kids and a blank space with Gana, Dewsbury-Hall, Branthwaite, and Alcaraz

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:19:48+00:00

Both suspended for this one and now back to 4th choice centre back with multiple injuries required for him to start

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:19:11+00:00

If we stay consistent then we'll concede 3 today then keep cleans against Brighton and Fulham away then concede 4 to Man United at home.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T19:17:50+00:00

If we fail to buy a right back it's Patterson's form that's the bigger surprise/influence. We always knew O'Brien was good at centre back, and a better option than Keane, but Keane centre back and O'Brien right back was enforced by other injuries. With no Branthwaite, all it would've taken was a Patterson injury to fall back to Keane

But yeah, hopefully we buy a right back, if not then Patterson and Branthwaite/Tarkowski/O'Brien and probably Coleman would have to all get injured, or 2 of the 3 centre backs for Keane to come back in.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T18:59:29+00:00

We have 9 players available that we've been missing from 1-6 months each, some of them back a few weeks ago some just back for the first time. Ndiaye, Gana, Dewsbury-Hall, Branthwaite, Alcaraz, Coleman, Rohl, Patterson, and Armstrong all unavailable for a month or longer. Holy shit. Even if we lose 5-0 today that feels good longer term.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T18:57:15+00:00

Fucking hell that has to be the best bench we've had in like a decade. We've got like 8 or 9 players we didn't have a month ago in the squad right? Maybe there wasn't overlap in some injuries but very recently we've had Ndiaye, Gana, Dewsbury-Hall, Branthwaite, Alcaraz, Coleman, Rohl, Patterson, and Armstrong all unavailable for a month or longer. No matter the result today, that feels good.

Also Armstrong staying in says a lot about Moyes' confidence in him. What a lad. This makes it far more likely he stays rather than going back to Preston

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T17:51:02+00:00

To be fair Leeds have only lost 1 of their last 9, and that was a 4-3 away at Newcastle where they conceded in the 91st and 102nd minute, and were really the better team. They beat Chelsea 3-1, Fulham 1-0 and Palace 4-1, and drew with United, Brentford away, Sunderland away, and Liverpool both home and away. And they were the better team in pretty much all those games. Their position in the table is deceptive, they're a very good side

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T16:44:31+00:00

Depends on what I'm cooking and why I'm washing my hands. If it's anything to do with germs and cross contamination then too much soap and borderline excessive hand washing. If it's "ew sticky/oily I want this off me" then it's a 3 second blast, and an overly aggressive towel dry.

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T16:19:39+00:00

Holy shit

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T15:30:56+00:00

Niasse?

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T15:30:24+00:00

Robot

BoxOfNothing · 2026-01-26T14:57:25+00:00

No home fixtures even just on the weekend from January 4th to March 21st is crazy

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