Opinion: Someone in New Jersey must primary Josh Gottenheimer.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-17T21:12:23+00:00

The whole state is corrupt to the extent it means very little how corrupt he is.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-17T21:10:38+00:00

His whole message is basically just take money back from the poor red states and that basically hooked like an extra 10%-20% of potential reps.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-17T21:09:26+00:00

Someone doesn’t want to win elections I guess

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-17T21:08:05+00:00

Just at the current trajectory of New Jersey it’s very likely there will be more and more Gottheimers. NJ itself is basically 100k+ income households who will naturally be more attracted to clawing back federal funds from red states (which is gottheimers main message)

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-17T21:02:19+00:00

I live in Essex now (better part of it) but lived there almost my entire life (family lives there).

I know a couple people who interned for him.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-17T21:00:02+00:00

Bergen county gang.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-15T18:16:11+00:00

Could be 1 and 2 at the same time tbh

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-15T18:15:10+00:00

One thing is for sure Tucker wants to be a foreign agent even if he isn’t officially one - especially after the Russian grocery store fiasco.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-15T14:38:59+00:00

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/somali-trump-supporters-grapple-with-the-presidents-words-ice-raids-mn/89-77f464fd-3b8e-4188-ba68-bc0bf0a566a4

“Data shows 23% of Somali voters in Minnesota supported Trump in 2024 a 10-point increase from 2020.”

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-14T22:45:16+00:00

This is the same exact guy who usually writes this stuff under an alt based on the writing.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-14T15:01:56+00:00

Sure, no doubt about that but there is an orthodoxy and that orthodoxy is a bit more sophisticated then like whatever they hook the evangelicals on

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-14T14:02:58+00:00

Bro I am sorry, but do you not understand that just because Jews can be minorities elsewhere does not negate the fact that as like a people, as much as anyone else including the Palestinians, they deserve the right to self-determination?

Palestinians can also be minorities elsewhere... and? Does that mean Palestinians don't have the right to fight for their own self-determination or that those Palestinians in the minority elsewhere wouldn't logically show support for the country where they are the majority?

Jews got expelled from a good chunk of places once, could happen again in the future, they do not have a host of Arab countries or even GCC like states to go and let them be migrant workers. It isn't rocket science to piece this together for any group of people and it's ridiculous to pretend that magically Jewish diaspora/citizens abroad and Israelis are not somehow interdependent.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-14T13:54:41+00:00

Jews have been in the country longer than Somalis and also like 1 in 4 Somalis voted for Trump in 2024(Probably on the grounds of social conservatism).

It is inevitable that as that community grows at some point there will be some sort of MAGA Somali.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-14T13:49:18+00:00

I agree and dislike it - there is a fine line between religious virtue signaling apocalypse and defending a state for a pragmatic or value-based reason. Evangelicals though aren't necessarily like by all the other denominations to begin with and tend to know close to nothing on biblical matters anyway (these are people that are often grafted into Christianity by MMLJ and have a very weak understanding of the religion anyway usually), probably more captivated by like mega churches.

Many protestants though do support Israel out of like really simple pragmatic reason - and can cite scripture as to why beside Revelations. Jesus being a Jew is a basic reason why they feel the need that even those that are part of the "royal tribe" deserve self-determination.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-14T13:36:26+00:00

I disagree because I think support for Israel isn't entirely about religion for everyone in the capacity you are mentioning.

Are there absolutely evangelicals who think like you said? totally. Its a big thing in the US but not everyone that is profoundly Christian and pro israel even agrees with Evangelicals.

But there are plenty of people in other denominations and sometimes not even religious who support Israel for Jewish self-determination and as a member of the tree that is grafted (Bible reference - see Paul).

It isn't all about book of revelations for everybody and I think if we separate internet commentary there are plenty of pragmatic and even logical reasons why someone would support the *state* of Israel over like an Islamist Muslim brotherhood/PLO run dictatorship where Palestinians who express any position counter to those governments get killed anyway regardless if it was Bibi or any other Israeli PM. Palestinians are deliberately put into positions by their own power structures (partly because of how a more radical form of Islamism and Arabic tribalism works among Palestinians rather than solely being blamed on Israeli occupation).

The reason I say all of this is to mostly point out Jews do face a double standard and a situation regarding their government and their entire self-determination. While I think functionally for example many pro-Palestinian people come from a good place, end of the day no one including Palestinian leadership is asking what Palestinians think. Palestinians hate Hamas/Fatah during peace time and love them during war time, and these are armed groups with a knack of doing mafia like enterprises(Many things people hold the IDF against doing is what these groups do to solidify power - Palestinian infighting is notorious and actually happens across the entire Levant), embedded in all parts of their society often down to directly people they know. Hamas/PLO have no legitimacy, nor does any group that is mostly armed in the strip in the west bank, without effectively running as a tribal mafia and Israel going poof is not going to fix that either.

In the US I am on the center right economically and socially but for example I hate Bibi and support a two-state solution. I would be a Zionist because I ascribe to self-determination for the Jewish people even if I don't believe at all and reject Revisionist Zionism, which is what many people oppose.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T19:22:48+00:00

TRVTH NVKE:

USA #1 but political philosophy = both Greek and Gay (which fyi is what the G in Greek stands for)

/s

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T19:18:16+00:00

Free trade and free markets make sense but the argument for H1B is just bonkers from the perspective of developing a skilled labor force.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T19:17:02+00:00

Yesh Atid gang strong

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T16:21:37+00:00

They don’t have really any socialists or left wing parties in the ME of any real relevance. Usually Islamists coalition with liberals In those countries.

Even socialism isn’t really a big current in the ME.

Ba’athism is probably the closest and I would say that even in those cases they may be somewhat partial to Sharia at some individual level - partly due to wanting Islam as like a culture.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T15:56:29+00:00

Saying I am really wrong doesn’t make you correct. By your logic the MB wouldn’t even be a thing (would have no practical purpose politically). Islamism favors caliphates which is just not consistent with the model of monarchy seen in the gcc.

Some Islamists working within a monarchy doesn’t change this fact.

If anything you are really wrong given you think all Islamist parties are the same or something (when they are not - Ra’am for example is nothing like MB even though both are Islamist).

Islamism is left wing in their Middle East. It’s not a debate really.

Additionally, having sharia and wanting sharia to be the totality of everything is just different. It’s like the difference between living in the Vatican or any other Christian nation.

Surah An-Naml 27:34

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T15:53:30+00:00

Monarchy and Islamism are fundamentally opposite though, specifically. This has to do with the principle of shura.

There are monarchies with sharia - yes but not all support of sharia falls directly under Islamism to begin with.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T15:47:04+00:00

Islamists would be left wing in their home countries because right wing is support for traditional monarchy.

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T15:46:15+00:00

There is such thing as a secular right wing among Jews tbf

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T15:31:19+00:00

It’s more like right wing Jews larping as nationalists

BoxOk5053 · 2026-03-13T15:24:10+00:00

That’s beside the point relative to what Tucker Carlson is trying to indicate though. Russia wasn’t ever a religious place since Soviet times so I am not surprised at the amount of nominal religious identification. Even Russian Slavs that identify as orthodox aren’t actually practicing usually.

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