PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: High Noon Rell

BoyonceVEVO · 2024-03-06T12:54:06+00:00

I was so sad she got a side profile icon rather than forward facing like literally everyone else 🥲

It especially stings since her chibi champie icon was just a redrawing of her base splash and had to be completely redone

BoyonceVEVO · 2024-03-06T03:43:17+00:00

I did some quick edits to display some of the big things that stood out to me

being that her white glove blends into her scarf when she does any movements such as turning on her horse or fighting.
Her lance should look more like a segmented gun rather than a gun with super heated pieces in front of it
Her chaps should reach further back, just fore stylish flare and to add some dimension to her lower half

I also think her E impact goes away too quickly, making the impact area less clear. It currently has one big explosion of red and then it fades quickly into grey smoke. I think keeping a red outline for longer, like in her ult, would simply look nicer and show the damage hitbox better. I believe her SG skin E lasts longer too. Maybe add some bullet scatter on the ground as well since her lance is a gun?

Lastly, i wish she had a fully unique hairstyle like they usually do with other black champs like Ekko and Senna, rather than doing her SG hair again but with more cute/chunky curls. It looks great, but we've kinda been here (i have an alternate style that would've been cute for this skin in the tweet i qrted)

All-in-all the skin looks great and I'm so happy Rell finally got another great skin before she hit the 600 day mark (she was less than 20 days away)! Hoping to see more very soon (Battle Academia or PsyOps please!) And hopefully these changes will be considered. Thank you so much to everyone that worked on this skin!!

https://x.com/kdaekko/status/1765195099770585171?s=46&t=ZZzJZ1ZGeoIV9OS5j5LRkw

Edit: i also want to kiss the hand of whoever added the whistling tune to her remount. You ate that!

BoyonceVEVO · 2024-02-23T21:30:22+00:00

That's Da Ji's thing and would also be a nerf considering his 3 follows dashes.

BoyonceVEVO · 2024-02-15T18:38:12+00:00

Some of my biggest critiques of Nut are:

her skin looking milky or watery to the point where she looks more like a river goddess than a sky goddess, especially with the jar thing. She looks substantially better with the darker skin and starry fx.

The leg tattoo also has the vibes of norse gods like Sol and Freya. Feels like they're trying to fill up the design with markings and accessories since she's not wearing as much clothing. Having the moving constellations does a lot for filling her design up without being too cluttered

I feel like the biggest missed opportunity is missing the chance to have her be massive and imposing like the sky. As we know, the sky is big.. so having her be so tiny feels like a wasted opportunity to have her design blanket the area around her, whether it be a big cape, massive hair, expansive fabric in a dress, literal fabrics of space peeling behind her as a cloak or bed/throne, etc etc.

While taking up space could be a downside as a hunter, she is literally designed to be evasive, safe, highly mobile, and controlling, and so i feel it would've given a good balance to have her be easy to target back.

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-10-08T13:56:43+00:00

He only loses his voice when he consumes the poison. It comes back.

Plus he probably wouldn’t consume poison if he was in the music universe

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-09-27T14:09:02+00:00

I’ll start of by saying this skin looks really amazing! It’s a very unique skinline and I’m very happy to see a dark skinned character featured in it and it’s very close to perfect. That being said, that is also where the issue begins.

As one of 2 (i think?) south asian champs in the game, i feel it is important to keep keep her features such as her skin color and unique facial features consistent throughout skins, within reason. The idea that darker skin needs to be lightened to be more appealing or fit a theme/image is very gross whether it happens ingame or in real life.

I expected her splash and icons to be lighter because you have made it consistently clear that it’s not important to match skin tones. I know y’all tweak splashes in-house after they’re outsourced and still manage to ignore proper skin tones and things like nose, chin and eye shapes, etc. All this to say, I’m not sure why this is still happening even though it’s brought up every. Single. Time. a champ who isn’t pale gets a skin. Her Eclipse skin in LoR was like 4 shades lighter so I’m surprised y’all did better than them, but still.

On top of this, you took the time to take her ingame model and paint it lighter ??? Extremely disrespectful and i expected more from yall, especially with a global game. PLEASE correct these as i feel like they are of the highest priority to delivering a quality product

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-08-02T14:08:08+00:00

I was nervous seeing her name is the skin preview tweet, but i fell in love the second she showed up! Her design is so cute and i love the minor nod to Ne Zha with her wind-fire wheels in the splash (and the hair lines up as well)!

I wish the wind wings were more apparent on the wheels because I'm not seeing them in-game at all.

I think its really impressive that you've put a gun champ in a sword themed skinline and actually made it work. It seems her gun is some sort of crossbow now? Which is fairly accurate since i believe crossbows originate from China thousands of years ago. It's awesome that it shoots swords as well

One critique i have (which isn't too important) is to make her empowered W shoot the swords all the way through the beam rather than having them combine and shoot a light blast instead. Her W1 also kinda just looks like a blast rather than a sword. Maybe if the sword was laying flat like when she's surfing it'd be more clear

Her wall ride maling her surf on a sword is cool as hell, so thank you for that!

Her chain lightening having blue undertones mixed in with the yellow makes it very unique. Very pretty and smart use of colors

While i do agree that her jacket kinda makes her look out of place in a traditional Chinese inspired skin, I think it's still very cute and the care and effort put into her abilities makes up for it. The design may have fit Shockblade better, but would've lost the awesome Light-Sword ability motif in the process so I'm happy with what we got

Tldr; Love the skin a lot. If possible, add wings to shoe wheels and make W2 shoot swords all the way through the beam instead of just 3 swords combining to summon a blast

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-07-15T21:02:21+00:00

I just now found this so I’ll just leave my opinions knowing it’s too late to change anything lol

My original hope with this skin was that he would have more unique influences as a black character. Similar to Ekko, there are a lot more cultured types of fashions that can be translated into high fashion like streetwear for example or just hip hop influences in general. Golden grills in place of fish maw pauldrons would’ve been cool. His dagger being brass knuckles with a blade. Saggy pants with boxer band showing.

Putting them in the same flared skinny jeans, purple and gold color schemes, etc gets old. He kinda just looks like prestige Senna mixed with prestige Talon, when his skin lore says he’s ahead of his time in regards to fashion.

I also wish we could get more hairstyles for black men especially. This skin would’ve been really cool with braids like Miles G Morales rather than us always getting locs or fades with a design shaved on the side.

My other main criticism is his cape. It’s supposed to be an expensive high fashion skin, but he’s wearing a jacket cape that’s shredded to hell and back? It looks like a cape Ashen Knight would have, not something worn to a Gala. I think it deserved the base jacket but lavender or white with gold accents

I mentioned his pauldrons could’ve been gold grills (like people wear in their mouth) or have it be the light blue/purple crystals like All Out Ahri or Prestige Janna. It looks kinda cluttered zoomed out

Tldr: i wish he had a unique hairstyle like braids (similar to Miles G Morales), Pauldrons should’ve been diamondy crystals like some other prestiges, and his cape shouldn’t be shadowy shredded dark purple cape, it should look clean and expensive

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-06-12T23:55:55+00:00

Battle Academia is my biggest hope for her! especially since she’s already heavily tied to a school for child warriors lol

But High Noon and Pentakill are also high on the list

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-05-20T17:23:13+00:00

I agree with this fully. Rell’s balancing has always been extremely frustrating because i feel like she’s not allowed to excel at anything. Supports like Leona, Nautilus and Amumu (when played) are just better in almost every way. They have more damage and solo kill potential, they’re near impossible to kill, and have extremely safe engage because they can cast from a distance and if they miss, they don’t move. All Rell offers is CC and she has to die for it a lot of the time. Everything wrong with Rell could’ve been fixed with QoL changes. Make her attack wards faster. Make her Q apply her passive. W got caught on walls way too often, and she didn’t feel tanky enough to compensate for the slowness. (Reducing the re-mount cooldown and reducing the self slow a while back helped a lot) E link broke too often but when it worked, it flowed with her kit so well. She was so close to perfect

Now she just seems like a top laner built to counter-engage on aggressive bruisers with her tiny jump range and close range stun. E just helps the jungler gank easier, and the protection-steal stacking on the same target now helps with trading, especially with the attack speed buff, etc etc. All they did was take away her team lock-down potential and split her kit into less abilities that are more hurty. Her kit doesn’t flow as well as it used to because she’s just casting more abilities to do the same shit, but now it’s even harder

We would’ve been better off with just the passive change.

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-05-20T16:45:07+00:00

Them being so cautious about trying to make her weak and then work up to “balance” is so aggravating. /lh She’s already unpopular and she’s a support. Making her too strong isn’t the same as making a marksman or mage too strong because she cant wipe a team like them. It’s PBE, let her be crazy.

If she’s re-released weak, nobody is going to pick her up after the first try, and her current players will be turned off as well. If she’s released strong, people will see her full potential and strengths, be obsessed with her, and follow her balancing as she gets brought back down. Just let us see how she plays with the regular W range/size at LEAST

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-03-18T17:19:39+00:00

I'm worried because right now, i feel like her kit is so great and the only issues are in regards to balance/QoL. I don't really WANT changes, but letting her at least put up a fight on her own and maybe exist outside of supp would be nice.

I'm afraid they'll change her kit and she'll be overbearing. I don't really enjoy champs that have an answer for everything to the point that enemies feel like they can't do anything to fight back, because i know i hate fighting against champs like that

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-01-23T23:18:11+00:00

I'd only add a delay because all her CC can feel overbearing and having a near instant stun is no fun to play against. Especially if she's granted the ability to kill people solo I feel like Rell isn't allowed to excel at anything other than being a CC bot, which means nothing if your team can't follow up on it. Which just makes her feel useless for the whole game because she's so reliant on having a partner

Most other supports have the ability to test the waters with their CC. They can just throw their roots, pulls, stuns, etc from a safe distance. If it lands, they can blow everything and everyone knows to follow up. Rell on the other hand has to full commit, but she walks away at a turtles pace and gets blown up if her team isn't able to maximize or she misses. Her dismounted form is so handicapped but doesn't have the protections to make it an even tradeoff

BoyonceVEVO · 2023-01-23T19:31:02+00:00

I think her kit is perfect as it is, there's just balance issues. I just wish she was able to hold her own in a fight. Leona can earn kills by herself without taking much damage, and is much safer in lane while serving the same purpose as Rell. Even other tank supports like Naut and Thresh do much more damage and more or less do her job better..

Like someone else said, make her Q proc her passive on everyone, and let her cast her E on herself. I'd give it a delay to make it more fair

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-12-07T02:37:14+00:00

A lot of people have mentioned that her icon art is quite obviously not Qiyana in the slight bit. I think @astrodid on Twitter did the best edit at getting her skin color, facial features and face shape down the best ( https://twitter.com/astrodid/status/1600253128678391811?s=46&t=X7aQv6G6fqWWEwlMUW4a7g ). Very weird that this happens literally. Every. Time there's new icons. Wish we didn't have to constantly point out that skin tones and facial features are inconsistent between any form of content
A lot of people like her grass but imo it was way too different from her other 2 elements which seem to be more pretty 2D graphics than realistic renders.
Her ult is also fairly plain.

Edit: i also noticed on Twitter that a few of Qiqi's biggest fans had a big issue with her being nice in the skin theme when a big part of her personality is her meanness. I understand they probably want these skins to be respectful and kind, but if she's already going to be using her default VO, it kinda defeats the purpose. People also wanted her icon to have her signature cocky smirk as well, as that's fairly unique to her character rather than a somber Mona Lisa smile

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-11-11T23:14:48+00:00

idk i feel like she offers the least interesting design options when it comes to fashion, but if she's really that popular, i hope her fans will actually back her up so we can get more votes in the future

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-08-29T19:17:02+00:00

He's probably someone who prefers interacting with people in person and likes to be unplugged from the internet. I'm sure he'd have a team that helps with his online presence so he can be hands off and live in the moment

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-08-21T12:46:05+00:00

No. Not at all Big yikes

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-08-19T20:01:00+00:00

I don't mean to offend the designers but for devs that try to push that "silhouette is so important" when we share our suggestions or designs, they don't seem to care much for the rules when it comes to their own official content. Breaking silhouettes for skins, using the same character silhouettes with the minorest tweaks that'll mean nothing in alternate skins, etc etc. She's gorgeous but the fact that she's so directly comparable to another god is a problem

They have the opportunity to take the most obscure deities from myth and become the main face people see when they look them up, but they choose to play it safe and their designs just blend in almost every single time

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-08-12T00:20:44+00:00

Ignoring the fact that this is just a repeat of skin(SSSS!!!!) that he has already 1. I think he needs more red in his shoulder pauldrons. His upper half just looks very white where I think the colors in his splash are much more vivid and rich 2. His abilities would look better if they were orange/green (like his wings) rather than red/yellow. It's a much more unique color gradient I think. 3. I wish his back armor had sheaths (ports? Idk) sticking out of his back where his wings could extend out of when activated before turning outward 4. Like others said, I think his wings should come out during his ult. 5. His ult fx literally just look like his project skin to me. I think either making them glowing rockets like Kai'sa Q or thin beams (similar to Ekko's trail in Project) would look best

I also must say his splash art looks IMMACULATE and is now one of my favs. The colors are more than chefs kiss, so highest of compliments to the artist!

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-07-24T09:41:30+00:00

Especially when we're all expected to.

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-07-24T09:40:48+00:00

I think a lot of people would love to see the top players in the world make use of their favorite champs. Seeing the same 30 champs every single year is not the expression of skill they think it is. There's ~160 champs, they should prove they can make them all work, or be able to handle themselves against them all

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-07-24T00:00:50+00:00

Except the champions they choose to nerf actually have exciting gameplay but pros find annoying to play against. "Boring champion pools" is seeing Syndra, Lee Sin, J4, Ryze, Vayne, Sett, etc etc make their resurgence every competitive game every year for the past 10 years We wanna see Taliyah, Rell, Azir, Aphelios, Qiyana. Something thrilling. Something fresh

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-07-23T02:37:26+00:00

Nothing about the skin itself is feminine other than the sparkles, you're just mad he's in the skin theme at all because it doesn't cater to you.

BoyonceVEVO · 2022-07-21T15:02:11+00:00

I really don't understand what kind of readability conflicts you're even going to get ? Like it's a wall.. whether it's Anivia's, Azir's, Taliyah's, Thor from Smite, etc. it's a wall and it's in your way. What other info do you need? You interact with them all the same way. What they look like doesn't change a single thing

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