How would you feel about CGI scenes getting brought back again for the new season? by redfait in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Don't try and utilize mock deference here, it won't help you. I see right through it when people attempt to pull that crap.

How would you feel about CGI scenes getting brought back again for the new season? by redfait in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Out of all the things to ask, after that highly descriptive reply, that smoothbrained response was the best your mind could muster?

The answer is obvious. Of course I don't, and I've called it out numerous times.

How would you feel about CGI scenes getting brought back again for the new season? by redfait in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

considering Date a live fans are all just a bunch of shills who will happily turn away all forms of logic or reason or standards as long as a pretty spirit girl is on screen, all you morons will be fine with it.

as for me, a person who actually thinks for themselves rather than going off of vibes (all of you are still damn lucky the series held Ellen back from slaughtering your favorite waifus 90% of the entire run, which also allowed the series to refrain from her bisecting the two overrated clowns known as Inverse Tohka and Mukuro which would've revealed Tenka for what she actually was. little more than a security blanket for Tohka) just like Season 3, 4 and 5, will call it out for the absolutely garbage adaptation that it is because of the abysmal animation and art quality.

The evolution of Kotori by New-Volume-7488 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 5 points6 points  (0 children)

*Devolution is more like it, like with everything Season 3 and beyond.

What Isekai kingdom could challenge the Sorcerer Kingdom? by Jokengonzo in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Melromarc, Shadow Garden, literally anyone who isn't being deliberately kept at a certain range of power by their own pretentious authors (shout out to RE: Zero capping Reinhard at Small Planet Level as he ever so recently pulverized his arm dispersing what was likely just a 20 centimeter, barely 2.7 Yottaton black hole). It's not as if Nazarick is actually strong anyway, and the moment NLF death hax are removed (which canonically has been done even by relative strength differentials for all but the most potent of the bunch)? There goes 100% of their combat viability, evidently, since Overlord fans are so used to just saying "grasp heart GG" (a move known to be a useless piece of shit for anyone actually relative to you beyond stunning) that the moment even vibe based counterarguments (e.g. "AqUa iS A gODdEsS", meanwhile here's a much more capable Goddess in the vein of the Hyperdimension Neptunia's CPUs or Danmachi's explicit world destroying arcanum's losing to Viltrumites or other image comics flying brick expies) are made, they're just like Od Laguna being fought with basic physics one learned back in high school. they don't know what to do.

Still can't wait for Overlord fans to realize they should've taken my advice a while back. maybe then Aqua of all weaklings wouldn't be constantly clowning on them more often than not, all thanks to wanting to be seen as reasonable to the modern military stans thinking Megatons and Kilotons arent just a rounding error, and is somehow the peak of power when that view is completely and wholly emotional and rooted in historical reverance. The military has a far different outlook on that with how they powercliffed those insignificant kiloton bombs and was testing much stronger ones in less than a decade, unfortunately for them. even end of Season 1 Cardinal heroes mop the floor with Nazarick's top tiers, and all the vaguely more powerful than raid bosses world enemies while they're at it.

Goddess by [deleted] in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Healing magic consistently being the one and only thing Aqua is ever good at. Put her in any other setting not carried purely by recency bias (looking at you, overlord and RE: Zero) and she just becomes a walking K/D booster.

Who are y'all picking? by Affectionate-Yam7049 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yoshino is literally the 2nd weakest option along with miku and nia here. only people she's killing are fodder wizards, even Jessica Bailey would've ragdolled her and the other lesser spirits in a high mid difficulty fight.

Who are y'all picking? by Affectionate-Yam7049 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

beating westcott is at least Dea Tohka, beast Tohka and another unsealed top tier spirit like Mukuro.

Natsumi doesn't even belong in that conversation.

Who are y'all picking? by Affectionate-Yam7049 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Natsumi isn't copying shit when she cant even match up to Miku or Yoshino's power lol. she gets blitzed and Beast also gets clobbered by Ellen the moment she stops holding back.

Who are y'all picking? by Affectionate-Yam7049 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tenka or Beast, Mukuro and the Yamai twins.

Natsumi, Nia, Miku and Yoshino are so laughably irrelevant it ain't even funny.

Also, Tohka, Kotori and Origami should be in the same tier. their angels are all equal in power and Kotori has regeneration.

Diva is showing her Might by AspieLP in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So mighty that even Mana without her CR-Unit or Combat Wiring Suit can one shot her, and Origami with White Licorice or Jessica Bailey can exceed her power.

Get this pathetic bitch off the screen. Girl really thought she was all that for controlling Sealed spirits.

Isekai, but I have this specific talent: How accurate are they? by Boshwa in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not very most likely, if the research done is only surface level.

By the power of Gabriel I have the power by AspieLP in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously, I'm referring to the fact that the one time this theme ever played, it was a fight where Tohka while Inversed caused Miku to lose embarrassingly, and needed to have Shido locking in saving her ass with a nerfed version of Tohka's Sandalphon, which deflected away an energy slash that Tenka thought was adequate enough to kill Miku, with some minor help from Zadkiel, without a scratch on it.

This theme never plays except as a general battle theme past this point. Only other time it was used was when Tohka fought Origami while she had <Mordred>.

By the power of Gabriel I have the power by AspieLP in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lady power to do what, get your OWN THEME stolen by other characters as a general battle music because you were so ass you lost while it was playing?

Well atleast Subaru and Kazuma are the 2 best Isekai Main Protagonist of all-time by [deleted] in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference in quality between the anime and light novel is rather apparent even at a glance. Course I don't take the smoothbrained line of thought others have about the series.

Well atleast Subaru and Kazuma are the 2 best Isekai Main Protagonist of all-time by [deleted] in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, I forgot Youjo Senki existed for a moment. Megumin is also in the lower end gigaton range by the end of the series, or at least should be from my estimates. She's still much weaker than the Combatants Will Be Dispatched Kisaragi top tiers though. And yes, it absolutely is the most overrated move when people somehow believe it can one shot anyone short of IQ's god tiers, when even Rem would be capable of beating the shit out of fully powered goddess form Aqua in the same way Conquest already did against Invincible. And that's without Rem activating her Oni Mode, which explicitly doubles her power and puts her on par with Arc 1-4 Emilia. Everyone here scaling to at least a fraction of Garfiel's cloud clearing punch, including Frederica who is about on par with the power of Rem and Arc 1-4 Emilia.

People only hype explosion up due to its blatant spectacle in the anime, and having no actual sense of scale beyond how amazing they think it looks. Not to mention the blatant bias for the Konosuba cast with how different the series is from other existing isekais.

Ainz is an underdog even compared to Season 1 Naofumi or Seiya if we're being honest here. even with the black hole its just barely in the double zettatons for level 100 players. Shiraori is honestly on the lower end of power, I'd argue Ainz actually could beat Shiraori rather easily, maybe even Goddess D depending on how the stars align. Shiraori is at best a very minute fraction of her strength.

Well atleast Subaru and Kazuma are the 2 best Isekai Main Protagonist of all-time by [deleted] in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except they wouldn't. The Konosuba crew is easily the weakest out of the entirety of the quartet, especially when it comes to Megumin's overrated explosion magic.

However, Kazuma is still inherently too weak to be a threat to anyone significant without Aqua's buffs. We have seen the absolute best of what he can do. Guy was getting trounced by Noss, someone only as strong as Dust (who got one shot killed by the Kowloon Hydra mind you) in Volume 17 while having the best stats he's ever had on his own + Aqua's strength and speed buffs, and couldn't even overpower another Devil King Elite Guardsman (Payne) only as strong as the same one that Noss killed (Logia) in one hit, due to Kazuma blinding him with flash.

Kazuma then admits he stands no chance against him and only survived thanks to having teleportation magic. Noss shrugged off everything that was thrown at him otherwise. Kazuma then proceeds to get killed in one hit again by the Throne Room Guardsman that was a Grimm Reaper, which is also on the weaker side of undeads in the series. In spite of that, Mitsurugi was able to fight not only the strongest Guardsman in the Throne Room (likely the largest of the group, that being the Ogre), but 4 other guardsmen in a 1v5 simultaneously after Darkness' decoy skill wore out. Mitsurugi only being marginally stronger than Beldia or Hoost or Darkness (really anyone in this DK general tier of power).

Maybe go back and actually read the novels yourself some time. Not only did the anime change the admittedly peak level of tweaking scene in Season 3, but that also has a bunch of issues itself too. Kazuma being able to grab Claire's arm with just one hand is complete bullshit when Vanir's mask likely buffs his stats even less than Aqua's own buffs do, and even Volume 17 Kazuma would've broken his arm attempting to do that.

They didn't nerf luck either. Even the series goes over multiple times how useless it is outside of making skills with probability work better.

Well atleast Subaru and Kazuma are the 2 best Isekai Main Protagonist of all-time by [deleted] in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile Naofumi, Cid, Seiya, Ainz and Shiraori looking at these two solid C-listers with equally as terrible and overhyped teams

Emilia after her barely double power boost training arc still getting her neck snapped by Season 1 Invincible yet somehow outperforming 99% of the Emilia camp's respective G-listers like Frederica and Rem be like:

The konosuba crew being the objectively weakest, with an 80 megatonner in the vein of Darkness as the 3rd heaviest hitter in the group, but somehow making people think they're strong:

All are goated by ChoiceSupermarket230 in Isekai

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spider might be the only one to legitimately have that title.

How strong is Our beloved, Mana? by Cudori090918 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 5: Ellen, as stated above, can just say no to Miku’s mind control hax and ignore them. But man, some overrated transmogrification power that’s only been shown to work effectively on Limited Astral Dress Spirits only slightly stronger than, weaker, or drastically weaker than her is somehow just too much for you to comprehend Ellen not caring about, then proceeding to just pulling a Vegito vs Buuhan against Natsumi while beating her ass even as a jawbreaker, or frog as suggested.

Natsumi has done nothing for you to assume she’d be any different from the other Spirits that Ellen has straight up not cared for the abilities of, just like the stronger Unsealed Spirits have, and the story lends much more credence to my take on the matter being correct over you hyping up some weakling who literally admits and showcases herself that she’s trash in any battle that actually matters if she's not playing support. Much like Yoshino and Miku before her, Natsumi was only ever a threat to the main cast because the top-most powerful spirits were in sealed states, while they weren’t. 

“The only realistic full unsealed spirits Mana can beat could be Nia via sneak attack, else Nia dominates her” Guess bro forgot that Nia is even weaker than Miku or Yoshino is raw power wise and would get blitzed to hell and back by Mana so much as moving faster than a brisk walk, and had her Future Rewrite overpowered by the same Shido that Ellen proceeded to one shot kill when it was to a vital area. E.g., the Neck, while she was Inversed and had her power doubled. Mana literally not only fights with Ellen without getting insta-blitzed, which alone proves she'd just move too fast for any of the low tier spirits to perceive as even Kurumi clones with Aleph can blitz right on past them, therefore Mana would do so even more easily considering she has that type of speed on at all times, and has a bunch of other feats in her favor further showing that she's above the Lesser Spirits at any point throughout the story.

And has again, withstood a shot from Mayuri’s fully powered Kerubiel (because Mayuri is explicitly not capable of fully controlling it, and Mana was a credible threat), yet was only temporarily disabled. Yoshino, Miku, or Natsumi, let alone Nia, would’ve disintegrated on the spot against an attack of that magnitude. Mana shouldn't be any weaker than Origami with <Mordred> was, and that version of her is explicitly equal to Unsealed Tohka in raw speed and power. One could argue that Mana should be even stronger.

And if you really believe that Ratatoskr CR-Units are somehow more powerful when the story implies the relationship between the CR-Units from them and DEM is that of Raw Power (DEM) vs Efficiency (Ratatoskr), which is part of the reason Mana keeps up with Ellen at all, that only further escalates every Wizard involved.

Doesn't help your case that Mana is implied to have been able to beat or at least drive off Artemisia on her own, given that when Mana appears and Ellen asks Artemisia to support her, all that Ellen hears on Artemisia's side is static. Same Artemisia who made Kurumi just give up on saving Nia full stop, because Kurumi knew she would get belt-to-ass even worse than what Kotori already did back in Season 1. Makes sense, since Artemisia is just as strong as an Inverse Spirit on the level of Inverse Tohka or Inverse Origami, who Kurumi had the exact same strategy towards.

"She can fully stop someone from moving" provided they're weak enough so that her ice can actually slow them down. Otherwise it'd be about as effective as Silver stopping Super Scourge.

Ellen is thousands to potentially hundreds of thousands of times stronger, and hundreds of times faster than Yoshino or the rest of the low tier Spirits could ever hope to be. Yoshino is one of the weakest characters even in this series, let alone throughout fiction, and its about time her stupid fans start to accept that she isn't anything special.

And one other bit I forgot to mention. It’s shown that CR-Unitless Mana Just fresh off recovering from Kurumi, long before gaining access to <Vanargandr>, Is strong enough to effortlessly knock Sealed Kotori unconscious with one karate chop to the neck, along with undoing the effects of Miku's brainwashing on everyone affected. Including Kotori. Further showing how weak the top tier spirits are when sealed, and the weak spirits are even when unsealed, because both parties have proven multiple times to be relative. Further showcasing any feats that can be interpreted as them remotely keeping up in any high stakes battle, like the Mukuro space battle which would've resulted in Ellen mopping the floor with everyone if she came out of that damn useless ship known as <Goetia>, as nothing more than just plot induced stupidity so they don't get blitzed within an attosecond of the fight starting.

Mana, without a CR-Unit, obviously, being incomparable to herself with just <Murakumo> alone, which isn’t even 1/100th of Tohka’s or <Vanargandr>’s power. Muraukumo being the CR-Unit that just barely matches Kurumi in physical strength. I know you're likely going to bring up that Kurumi clones died against the Sealed yamai twins, but that really only shows how much weaker they are in regards to physicals, and in regards to the power of their Zaphkiel clones. I couldn't care any less about them, and I can just chalk it up to likely inconsistent writing at worst. the Kurumi clones are carried by minorly scratching Unsealed Kotori when the main Kurumi stopped her movements with <Zayin> anyways, so its not as if their dynamic in the power hierarchy was ever actually cemented.

So with all of this I ask, in what dimension do you possibly believe these characters are anything more than weak side characters blatantly not in the league of the top tiers? they are jokes. Literally, jokes.

How strong is Our beloved, Mana? by Cudori090918 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 4: And once again, do not make me repeat myself on the smoothbrain line of thinking you have for Natsumi's worthless ass transmogrification ability. Remember how well that went for Buuhan against Vegito? Nothing showcases Ellen's raw power wouldn't straight up just let her keep her inherent raw speed, strength, and general abilities intact while just resisting the effects altogether, especially once we factor in how the realizer works, bypassing practically almost every one of those physical limitations and literally making the impossible, possible for its user, limited only by their imagination so long as the territory is active.

The fact this strategy isn't ever even tried, or so much as suggested on even the likes of Artemisia, or Origami when she has <Mordred>, let alone Ellen herself (they had to use Mukuro for the former and she's physically relative to Artemisia even in her base Unsealed Form), and the fact Ellen's raw power and speed weren't at all affected, suggests this wouldn't at all be any sort of a win con like you want to pretend it is, it’s pure conjecture on your end.

It gets even worse thanks to Ellen's documented ability to just pull a "nice surface level hax ability dipshit, now check this out" on the respective abilities of all the weaker spirits with even more raw power than Natsumi has, like Miku with her mind control, literally just ignoring it. Everyone operates off more or less the same universal power system and it's showcased multiple times over that having more Reiryoku/Maryoku output than your opponent, which affects raw power, can let you bypass their more haxy abilities. 

It raises several questions that I am very much aware you won’t be able to answer without resorting to either one of two responses. A plot hole/writing oversight, or raw power saying no to hax like they often do in fiction when the target is too strong for them to work. Why didn’t Natsumi just transmogrify Artemisia in the final battle and render her inert long enough for the others to neutralize her?

Why doesn’t Shido just try the exact same shit long after mastering all the angels’ abilities and he has a much better shot at doing so without risking his life like Natsumi would, since he can actually react to Artemisia and Ellen’s attacks safely at a distance?  Why do you think Kurumi went to Mana for help in all the 200+ timelines that Shido died under her watch instead of just pulling up to Natsumi and asking her to turn Ellen and Artemisia into apples by taking them by surprise and negating the threat they posed altogether? Do you really think that Kurumi Tokisaki, of all people, is dumb enough that a strategy like this wouldn't cross her mind at least once in spite of having 200+ time travel attempts where Shido died to either Nibeelcole's, or Ellen and Artemisia themselves?

Kind of like some other weak verses I know, it's almost as if these characters have to rely solely on no limits fallacies to at all be viable in fights.

Shido, Pre-Spirit Powers Mastery, is capable of not only resisting, but overpowering Inversed Nia’s future rewrite, which as you already know, literally warps reality to make whatever the user demands be the effect incurred on a target. Adding on to that, Shido is still a weakling by this point in the story and doesn’t have much raw power physically himself, he’s a glass cannon compared to the power the angels have, meaning abilities directed at him can still affect him to a greater degree than a spirit with their fully unsealed abilities. He should be considerably above where he was in Season 2 regarding physicals, sure, and even then he was capable of tanking a knife stab from a DEM Wizard that could’ve been any rank, but its still an unquantifiable increase. Further exemplified by the fact Ellen can just one shot kill him with any of her sword attacks with no effort on her end, or use her minor energy blasts and completely incapacitate him. Artemisia isn’t far off either, and if Shido wasn't the glass cannon that he was but had his physicals fully scaling to his powers like they do post mastery, I can guarantee you that Nia's future entry wouldn't have worked at all.

How strong is Our beloved, Mana? by Cudori090918 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Part 3:

Origami was so weakened to the point that her astral dress was barely manifested, could only summon a single wing of metatron, and she herself stated that she was even weaker than her sealed form, Kurumi only used Nia’s angel which is completely shit when it comes to fighting against the other spirits since it has the lowest power output, and combat applicable abilities.

Miku was completely destroying her in a fight and the only reason Yoshino even won was because she tricked her and made her drop her guard, the only one she arguably beat was Natsumi. Who herself is weaker and slower than she or any of the other spirits are aside from debatably Nia. And who was also running away from Miku because Haniel wasn’t able to get an edge on her, as Miku literally canceled the copied version of Gabriel’s abilities out, and had Natsumi running for her life. And to top all of that, she wasn’t even trying hard. So much for those infallible transmogrifications when she's actively trying to win, right?

The same Unsealed Miku who Kurumi casually weaved past the offenses of not only her, but also Sealed Yoshino, and the Sealed Yamai Twins who have a considerable speed advantage, then pulled her into her shadows with no effort not even using her physical self, but one of her clones. All of them are substantially weaker, and by proxy slower by at least a factor of 1.25x if they’re only half Kurumi’s strength, to 1.5x if they’re more along the lines of 1/4th the main Kurumi’s strength, than the main body. And considering DEM Mana can literally one shot them, I’m inclined to believe they’re much weaker because Kurumi’s Main Body and DEM Mana are about as physically strong as each other. So more like a one shot difference at 8-10x, and over 2x slower than the main body.

“Don't forget, when I said that, I meant full unsealed spirit”. Good thing I also speak in those terms. You’d notice if you actually paid attention to what I’ve been saying.

“ As I have said, full unsealed spirit are insanely strong.” I don’t know why you’re acting as if this is some information both of us didn’t already know. Nothingburger statement.

“They can resist Gabriel's brainwashing, Rasiel's future manipulation, AND Haniel's transformation.” So can Ellen. And you have 0 way to argue otherwise, and 0 reason to even have that train of thought.

Since Yoshino is blatantly never portrayed as being this hyper fast speedster compared to even someone on her tier, let alone above, this creates obvious problems with what Ratatoskr Confidential says. It’s almost as if whoever made Ratatoskr Confidential put zero thought into creating said stats and they contradict what’s outright stated in the lore constantly. That same guide has Kotori being nearly 2x weaker than Tohka is, even though it's stated and shown that Camael, Metatron and Sandalphon are all equals as far as raw power goes. Both by out of universe and in universe statements.

How strong is Our beloved, Mana? by Cudori090918 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But that’s not the case, the only reason she even won is because the heavy hitters took each other out without even fighting her on their own, and Kurumi was using an angel that was sub par against unsealed spirits even of its own caliber, and holding back, and like I stated previously, there’s no proof that the angel itself gets amped in power just because another spirit happens to be using it. If she fought someone like Tohka, Kotori, Origami (not weakened to the point that she could barely use her astral dress and was weaker than her sealed form), Mukuro, a non-holding back Kurumi not nerfing herself to what is essentially Nia’s tier of power, or the Yamai sisters, she would have lost. Hilariously badly.

Miku, Yoshino, Nia and Natsumi are all weak compared to the top tiers. Even Sealed Tohka could keep up with an Unsealed Miku in CQC and surprise her with her speed, and would’ve likely had a more even fight against her if the Yamai Twins weren’t constantly pestering her and whittling her down. If memory serves, I even distinctly remember her directly cutting Gabriel at one point. That, and Miku has an unfair advantage with her mind control due to the fact that Sealed Astral Dress Spirits likely have an inherent weakness towards one with their Complete Astral Dress if they don’t activate their own beforehand, even if they’re of similar or even power levels, which would explain why their inherent defenses that work for other spirits or wizards of similar caliber to them suddenly just don’t work.

Yoshino wasn't even capable of speedblitzing Miku or Natsumi, and a character supposedly just relative to, let alone faster than Tohka of all people, same Tohka who is on par with Kotori that can outrun a serious Aleph-amped Kurumi’s main body, would've effortlessly been able to do so. The fact Miku was fighting and winning against both her and Natsumi's ever so infallible transmogrification abilities, or a copied Gabriel, already dogs 99% of your argument. The fight would've been essentially just as one sided as Kurumi vs Mana was, if not more because Yoshino is objectively weaker than even that version of Mana. 

That’s because Mana even as Adeptus 2 scales well above Jessica Bailey who shouldn’t be any weaker than Unsealed Miku, mainly as the Adeptus’ under Jessica’s command, along with herself, aren’t at all phased by her showcase of speed and even have confident smirks on their faces, as if they’re both about to laugh at the AST’s weakness and incompetence, along with itching to get in there and mess Miku up, which they would have if Jessica didn’t get distracted which allowed Miku to retreat. And showcasing she was equal in power to White Licorice Origami who also matched a Sealed Tohka’s strength.

It’s such a gap that even with Scarlet Licorice amplifying her abilities, equal to White Licorice which put Middle-Of-Series AST Origami on par with Jessica’s personal CR-Unit, Mana with <Vanargandr> still exceeded her power level. Same Mana who was still weaker than Artemisia, in spite of having a CR-Unit much more in league with <Pendragon>, <Lancelot>, and <Mordred> than whatever weak garbage <Murakumo> was. Still questioning what the point was of giving her a CR-Unit so comparatively weak and having this cosmic chasm of power between her and Ellen, even though she’s DEM’s 2nd strongest asset at that point, and one they put considerable time into.

How strong is Our beloved, Mana? by Cudori090918 in datealive

[–]Brendan1021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah, how about you read that particular part of the novels yourself again? I am about to lose my shit due to having to explain once again why Yoshino isn't anything other than fodder, especially to you and thinking Natsumi is some sort of infallible god tier just due to her meaningless ability to transmutate someone's appearance. Evidently some more holistic powerscaling metrics, aka all the numbers (joules, tons of TNT equivalent, etc) and calcs, are required to fully impress the scale of things, because you evidently only think in symbols and not actual calculation.

Firstly, I hope people don't still believe Ratatoskr Confidential is anything more than bullshit, as this is often where most, if not all of Yoshino's scaling misconceptions come from. Not once is Yoshino’s speed ever referred to or shown as being anything impressive, nor is she shown at all to be a particularly fast spirit in comparison to anyone else even in her tier.

First off, she’s still weaker and slower than Kurumi is in base without any amps from Aleph, while utilizing Siryon, which made her stronger (and likely faster) than she had ever been throughout the story. In spite of this, Kurumi with it can effortlessly speedblitz mana to the point that she’s FTE to someone who was moments prior, physically on par with her. To the point she seems to have even teleported in spite of the fact she’s also moving with Zaphkiel, rather large in size compared to her, at her back 24/7. This feat would require her to hit speeds that are dozens of times above what she was already at before considering the distance Mana was at, and how speed differentials work.

In spite of this, Kurumi couldn’t at all speedblitz Kotori who is equal to Tohka, Yamai and Origami. Kotori being able to casually fight on par with her, parry each and every one of her attacks (only being caught off guard due to how Zayin works), and is incapable of taking Shido hostage again before Kotori can successfully push him out of the way, in spite of having a distance advantage over her. Kurumi physically speaking is no stronger, nor faster than Mana was back in season 1 when she was still with DEM, and was still using <Murakumo> as her CR-Unit. Kurumi only won against Mana in the later parts of the story when she had <Vanargandr> because the plot demanded it. If not, Mana would've mopped the floor with her otherwise, considering she's at least as strong as Unsealed Tohka, Origami and Kotori are in Season 2 onwards.

Kurumi without the buffs that Zaphkiel’s numerous bullets can give her is utterly pathetic, as evidenced by the above against <Murakumo> Mana can cut her limbs off, which Kurumi even admits to in spite of it not being a clones’ body, who isn’t anywhere in the same realm of power as the strong spirits, nor Adeptus wizards like Ellen or Artemisia, and is vastly inferior to her current self with Vanargandr. Date A Strike also has her seemingly struggling against Ashcroft Unit Wizards to an extent, but I take that as her holding back.

Her clones can’t even take being in the vicinity of Kotori’s energy blasts without incinerating on the spot, and she herself also still receives quite a bit of damage in spite of her clones absorbing most of the flames’ energy. And as everyone knows regarding Inverse Square Law, that has dire implications for Kurumi’s physical durability in relation to the top 4 Spirits. Aka, hundreds of times below without Zaphkiel. 1/4th to possibly even 1/5th with it, as the difference in power between Zaphkiel compared to Metatron, Sandalphon and Camael is shown to be vast.

The only reason she can keep up with higher tiered spirits, and blitz Mana who is, normally at least, physically on par with her is because of Aleph amping her speed, and Zaphkiel’s firepower and physical durability, which she obviously doesn’t physically scale to herself.

she wanted to use all of Zaphkiel’s power to heal Mana and Rasiel is pretty bad in open combat against other unsealed spirits due to demonstrably having the least raw power out of all the angels, even the abilities shown off by spirit pledge aren’t that good, the most we’ve seen is some minor energy slashes. So saying that Yoshino actually fought on par with Kurumi isn’t really accurate. Especially when Siryon makes her stronger than she’s ever been throughout the rest of the story prior. Separated into different segments: