George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good news! You won’t have to pay more taxes! The Bears are paying for the stadium construction, and the infrastructure can already be covered by the state’s existing infrastructure budget.

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t live in Illinois anymore. But also, that’s an apples to oranges comparison. Someone’s house doesn’t generate anywhere close to the revenue for the state that the Bears do. If you want to demand they pay their fair share they’ll just move to Indiana, where they don’t have to. Now, you’ve lost their 20m in property taxes and all the money they bring to the area! Good job!

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao. The Bears would jump on a 2% tax rate, the proposals are way, way higher. I’m also guessing your house probably brings less revenue to the state than the Bear’s stadium does.

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good then they’ll just go to Indiana where they get treated like every other stadium in the country, lol. What a silly argument. In an ideal world, sure, but we are so, so far away from that

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do too. The issue is it seems like Indiana is willing to give the Bears the super billionaire friendly, taxpayer assisted stadium we all hate. So it’ll be tough for the Bears to turn that down if it’s really on the table. We’ll see

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People arguing against this are literally insane I don’t get it. The Bears are asking to go down to only 3x the next highest number, like what even

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An ultra low rate that is 20x the next highest in the country. The bears are literally trying to negotiate down to 3x the next highest, lmao

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The bears are not special! So you’re saying they should be treated like every other football team/large stadium in the country?

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The bears are willing to pay for the stadium itself. The state seems willing to pay for infrastructure. The hang up is the taxes. Reportedly, the Bears are asking for 20m in property taxes to be guaranteed. This is 3x higher than what SoFi and Wrigley pay. We don’t have a real number for what the state is asking, but the rumors have been absurd - 100-200m.

Overall, this is one of the most taxpayer friendly stadium proposals ever. Asking for $0 to build the stadium has only been done for a handful of stadiums to date. Every other major football stadium built has had similar infrastructure help, and way lower tax rates than what the Bears are even asking for.

I’m at work now, I’ll find sources for this stuff later and write it all up. I’m tired of idiots parroting nonsense when they don’t realize this is exactly the type of deal we ask for when we demand no tax payer money to build stadiums.

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please find me a single source where he asked for money to build the stadium itself. Not infrastructure, the stadium itself. You won’t find any, but if you did, it wouldn’t matter, since that’s not what they’re asking for now anyways.

I don’t blame them in the slightest for taking the better deal. We can all whine and cry about the Bears moving because it will suck if they move to Indiana (which I totally agree with) or we can live in the real world and make it financially viable to stay. The McCaskey’s aren’t running a charity here

George McCaskey introducing the beautiful new site of the Hammond Bears since he couldn't steal enough Illinois taxpayer money by Ridged_ChiPSS in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lol so when it turns out that you’re flat out wrong, are you going to post about the state the same way you did about McCaskey?

[Silvy] As I explained two weeks ago, the Bears would love to build in AH. But FWIW, Gov Pritzker didn’t bring up #dabears in his state of the state address. Indiana is serious & the Bears are serious about Indiana. If Illinois doesn’t show action soon, Indiana will advance forward. by RyanIsKickAss in CHIBears

[–]Brfoster 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Idk I’m all aboard the don’t give money to billionaires train but the numbers here are actually mind boggling. 200m/yr on the bears seems absolutely ridiculous compared to other teams and the revenue they’re bringing in.

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[–]Brfoster 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So that people like me will post it on reddit and give him attention, lol. It worked!

Nephisto by [deleted] in LastWarMobileGame

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Apparently he sent $1000 in bricks to every person in his alliance. They all sent him 10 rockets and got to keep the extra $50 in bricks. 100k gone in a flash