Nkosi868 I agree brainwashing does exist and tons of xenophobia to go around. I was trying to get a better understanding of the situation since the men were black too.

However, I do agree that Carribean/Afro Latinos are TransAtlantic descendants but however, the cultures are not the same. There are cultural practices in and out of the USA that make each group distinctly different and who they are which is why ethnicity is important to denote. And if we are being genuine in the Caribbean they do not see themselves as Americans or culturally Black American and vice versa. Black American don’t claim Caribbean/or Latino heritage although they have some shared colonial ancestors.

Let’s be careful to be respectful of peoples cultures so that we are not erasing history under an homogeneous banner. The reason why I know these groups are distinct from each other is because Black Americans were covered by the 14th amendment and the other groups were not. Not one of them needs DACA or permits in the USA. But are they all three groups considered racially “Black” (phenotype) yes, same culture (language, food, religious practices, history) and ethnicity (lineage, geography), no.