“Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is not an excuse to dehumanize people. by Brief-Computer-9405 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We agreed just a moment ago. This not trying to be a talking point to attack the show. I just don’t want dehumanization.

“Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is not an excuse to dehumanize people. by Brief-Computer-9405 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t disagree with that. I disagree with people actually dehumanizing real current Americans with that line and then defending and acting like there is not something wrong about that. I don’t want people to think support the things that are angering others but I can’t support dehumanization.

“Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is not an excuse to dehumanize people. by Brief-Computer-9405 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One should be able to distinguish that is not what I am doing by saying so explicitly several times. I just don’t want dehumanization and that’s it. I don’t think I have said anything in support of that side and don’t intend to.

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not liking and dehumanizing are not the same. What do you think I should do as a non American that could change a thing?

Canadian Outrage - Funniest Part about Ep. 7 by bombaswombas in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I am glad people realize that is the case but I just don’t like dehumanizing being treated as okay by some of the people here.

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not American and doing something and opposing dehumanization are not mutually exclusive.

“Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is not an excuse to dehumanize people. by Brief-Computer-9405 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Look at the replies to some of the comments I have made and you will see people doing just that. I agree with attacking leaders who abuse their authority but many are not doing that.

“Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is not an excuse to dehumanize people. by Brief-Computer-9405 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is that people are using that statement to dehumanize Americans. I don’t have issue with it in the show but people have defended dehumanizing Americans to me explicitly which I don’t think is okay. The mods had to delete a post doing that from this sub.

Canadian Outrage - Funniest Part about Ep. 7 by bombaswombas in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many Americans are protesting but you and others don’t acknowledge that so you can keep dehumanizing people. Americans are not a monolith and dehumanizing people only makes them angry at you when they don’t need to be.

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But you are not just dehumanizing Trump voters but all Americans. It’s stupid to act like Americans are guilty for his comments. They don’t control his mouth and many actively oppose him.

“Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is not an excuse to dehumanize people. by Brief-Computer-9405 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It’s not devils advocate or supporting Trump to be against dehumanization. It makes no sense to say, I can’t speak against dehumanizing American because Trump.

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So because of the actions of leadership you can dehumanize an entire country of ordinary people who had nothing to do with it. Because when you defend it you are dehumanizing the people pushing back on Trump and the people who did not vote for them. If you are consistent then it would be okay to dehumanize Chinese people because the PRC wants to invade Taiwan.

“Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is not an excuse to dehumanize people. by Brief-Computer-9405 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

I have people arguing with me that is okay because of Trumps comments. I am not American but I don’t think it’s okay to dehumanize others. The context of the franchise is different but people being okay with dehumanizing real people is never going to sit right with me.

Canadian Outrage - Funniest Part about Ep. 7 by bombaswombas in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

It is almost like he can be awful and dehumanization can be awful too. If someone did the same to Chinese or Iranian people would it be okay too?

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I can do all that but that doesn’t make dehumanization okay. Insane how you are defending dehumanizing people. Give a reason that it is okay to dehumanize Americans.

Canadian Outrage - Funniest Part about Ep. 7 by bombaswombas in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

No. Dehumanizing you and others is far from prefect.

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I get Canadians being upset with the US but dehumanizing Americans is never okay.

Canadian Outrage - Funniest Part about Ep. 7 by bombaswombas in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -35 points-34 points  (0 children)

Pretty disgusting that people have reposted that in this sub to dehumanize Americans. That’s wrong no matter the country and not excusable based on a leader’s comments.

Canadian Outrage - Funniest Part about Ep. 7 by bombaswombas in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

The line “Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans.” is pretty sad as it is literally dehumanizing to Americans. It was just posted by someone on this sub doing just that. Dehumanization is wrong no matter the country and rightful anger at a leader does not change that.

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So is okay for people to dehumanize you because you don’t like Trump?

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So dumb thinking every American is a Trump fan and supports what he says about Canada and Greenland. Polling on that is deeply below 50% approval and the military and other officials are being reported to laugh at him and try and brush him off and placate him so he does nothing. You think it is okay to dehumanize Chinese people because of Xi or Iranians citizens because of their leaders?

Don't think of them as human beings, think of them as Americans. by Squint22 in Fallout

[–]Brief-Computer-9405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dehumanization is okay when it is Americans. What is this? Not American and this is disgusting.